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On July 26 2015 17:11 Snickers wrote:
onegu has done literally noting to seem townie except for wait his claim. this is what he is fucking saying this far into the day.
why his claim is scummy even though you guys think its townie.
a. it builds town cred which he said he needed.
b. he said it is dumb for mafia to claim named towned day one. but wait its even more dumb for the confirmed town to claim it instead of vt(or instead down claim anything) cause the chance of a scum claiming its the chance of a 1 for 1 trade. god forbid we also have a medic is could be better.
To conclude, paranoid onegu claimed day one cause for him towncred>objectively good play for town as a whole.
Onegu isnt paranoid as scum
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On July 26 2015 16:48 Onegu wrote:
What about my medic play, I wouldnt fucking claim as medic here. Named VT has no abilities so claiming day 1 is correct especially when you are a player like me who always gets scum read.
im done with this conversation.
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From a quick glance into the last game FirmTofu was town in (that he posted more than 2 times on D1) from the database:
On May 03 2012 07:40 FirmTofu wrote:
Gummy, I think I know what you're doing. Let it be known to posterity that I think its a terrible strategy.
We aren't going to have a lynch today. I think both Claw and Gummy are town, and no one else has enough evidence on top of them for me to even consider lynching them.
Get over yourself Gummy. There is no way you can deduce everyone's alignment from a handful of Day 1 posts. Let's wait a day and see if we get some REAL information.
##vote: No Lynch
On May 03 2012 08:02 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 07:57 Ange777 wrote:
I still don't understand. Voting no lynch will leave us in almost the same situation on day 2 as now, only difference is we will know one colour but are down one townie. I fear that this won't be sufficient to rule scum out on day 2 as well.
This. All I see with Gummy is a guy who thinks he is better than everyone else here and thinks he has the game figured out. He wants everyone to see how right he is, so he is pushing Claw with a single-minded focus with utter disregard for any legitimate strategy. I am not one who will vote with someone who allows his emotions to sway his decisions. As you can see with all his bolded posts, he is simply spewing rhetoric and nonsensical arguments to get people to listen to him at this point. As I mentioned earlier, we should adopt a strict policy of ignoring Gummy until he gets his emotions in check.
FirmTofu why were you giving townreads on D1?
It is a scumtell and doesn't help anyone finding mafia remember?
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On July 26 2015 17:13 Snickers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 16:48 Onegu wrote:
What about my medic play, I wouldnt fucking claim as medic here. Named VT has no abilities so claiming day 1 is correct especially when you are a player like me who always gets scum read. im done with this conversation.
Yeah you should be, Onegu is 100% right here.
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On July 26 2015 17:13 Snickers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 16:48 Onegu wrote:
What about my medic play, I wouldnt fucking claim as medic here. Named VT has no abilities so claiming day 1 is correct especially when you are a player like me who always gets scum read. im done with this conversation.
Why? I thought we could talk some more.
How about this. I am named town DarthPunk.
You like this claim any better?
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no way in hell he is 100% right.
unless right for you is that i cant manage to even look town for one day as a pr.
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n00bKing you need to explain how you think it is possible Rels is mafia, or rather how does his stance on Barakos and what he has pushed on D1 not clear him but on the other hand your stance on Barakos and other people and what you did makes no sense from scum perspective.
Like let me clarify:
Rels; is the first one who points out Barakos' scummy post. Calls him mafia. Votes for him early on (tbh i pushed him to do it but i also pushed everyone else to do it). Does not push anything else on D1, doesn't even think about it.
n00bKing; Admits Barakos' post is bad. I don't remember what you called him, it's already evident you at least REALLY didn't call him mafia (because i DO remember when people ACTUALLY call someone mafia). Is one of the last people to vote for him. Pushes Rels all day long, never touches the case on Barakos aside from off-hand comments on him.
And from these actions you decide that "Rels is not clear but my stance on things make no sense from scum perspective"?!??!
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like heres the the thing which i dont understand at all. its not so scummy what he has done. but its this far into the game and he doesnt look townie at all except his claim which for some reason no one asks him about..... which is suspicious.
like sorry i think onegu could possibly be scum instead of just playing a really bad town game here?
his paranoia is real as scum if he is this bad at looking town.
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oopsie. 
wrong thread.
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On July 26 2015 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote:On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes
but guys, guys, guys...
rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!
Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Here is why FirmTofu is mafia. Especially the underlined part is something that is impossible for a townie to believe is true.
This makes FirmTofu dumb and bad. I don't know if it makes him mafia.
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It's a goddamn weekend. Why can't you guys get organized and do useful stuff without me?
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It's a reason to call someone scum for reasons that do not actually make anyone scum.
There is no way one thinks giving out townreads (especially with reasoning, as you did) does not help the town finding mafia, even regardless of your affiliation.
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if people would like to tell me why boxer isnt mafia and give actual reasoning that would be really nice.
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On July 26 2015 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
I think that boxer's post was genuine although he is wrong about Kelsier.
Which means I think boxer is most likely town
He is also voting for Scott who i think could be mafia.
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Like if we're lynching people for doing dumb shit we would have to lynch half the town, so I don't know if we should use that as a parameter. I'm really struggling with some posts to try to determine if they're from mafia or just lazy/apathetic/bad townies.
Also I'm tempted to lynch scott for this:
On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote:
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -
1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that.
He claims to be using a spreadsheet to help him determine people's alignments, but some of the stuff here is just complete fucking bullshit and 100% made up. Like I don't believe anyone who keeps a spreadsheet would do it in this way. Also check this out, detective Palmar is on the case:
Things that bother me about the format of this thing:
- I would have removed the numbers in front of the names (these are exactly from the playerlist)
- There is no progression in the reads. This was all clearly written in a single sitting as evidenced by Glowingbear's commentary about his second part d1 looking better.
However on the other hand this is clearly copy pasted from a spreadsheet so if he is lying about using a spreadsheet he at least opened up google docs or something and pasted this in.
meeeeeeeehhhhhh~~~~
Maybe I should give him a pass based on that?
Don't know, it actually feels like I should.
It's so bad though...
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On July 26 2015 18:31 Snickers wrote:
if people would like to tell me why boxer isnt mafia and give actual reasoning that would be really nice.
I think he might be, there was a serious tone thing in one of his posts. But I haven't played with him before, maybe he's just timid in general.
Gonna have to re-read
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Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty?
Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet?
Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless?
i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia.
Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself.
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Day 1 Vote Count
Hopeless1der (2): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337
scott31337 (2): boxerfred, Hopeless1der
FirmTofu (2): raynpelikoneet, Onegu
KelsierSC (1): Snickers, GlowingBear
raynpelikoneet (1): Palmar
Palmar (1): FirmTofu
Clarity_nl (1): rsoultin
boxerfred (1): Snickers
rsoultin (0): Onegu, Snickers
Not voted (2): KelsierSC, ObiWanShinobi
As the wind blows, Hopeless1der is staring death in the face.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
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On July 26 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty?
Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet?
Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless?
i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia.
Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself.
This is a really good post.
Snickers I think you're town and I love the energy you're bringing but Onegu is not the lynch today.
I'd lynch Scott or Tofu.
Scott is partly because of his early play which I questioned him on and I think rayn's point about his spreadsheet is good.
Tofu, his second "push" on palmar felt bad. his secondary scum also felt like he didn't really give a shit "rayn's been quiet"...yeh well it's a post restricted game but rayn had stepped up by that point. Then a throw away bf has a small filter.
I don't like obi either
People I think are town
rayn, rsol, snickers, onegu, palmar
there are others that I should try to work out; hopeless, clarity, obi, bf.
I want to read more from them. GB you can just say nothing and that would be fine.
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