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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 26 2015 12:23 GMT
#461
Kelsier why is Hopeless not town then if my post is good?
It's basically his post.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 26 2015 12:25 GMT
#462
ye, i'm happy with a tofu lynch lol >< and i'll just keep repeating that i still think clarity is scum so people don't forget, since no one seems to really want to lynch him

hrum...scott, i guess my problem with scott is i feel like he's been lynched or at least strongly suspected for something similar before as town but it's one of those things i can't remember so well -_- i don't have a strong lean on him one way or another

though i kinda giggled at his explanation regarding giving the posts. i don't know if y'all noticed cause it wasn't well-articulated, but essentially he said that since ksc was whining about having to "waste" a post defending himself, he gave him posts, which is a type of assholeish sarcasm that amuses me

rayn's point is really good, though. if he's not reading rayn scum, where are the scummy voters coming from? i could have been too quick to like him just for being a dick? i dunnae :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 26 2015 12:28 GMT
#463
On July 26 2015 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier why is Hopeless not town then if my post is good?
It's basically his post.


Because outside of that associative read (scott is mafia therefore hopeless must be town) I can't get a read on hopeless either way.
Zerg for Life
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 26 2015 12:31 GMT
#464
On July 26 2015 21:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier why is Hopeless not town then if my post is good?
It's basically his post.


Because outside of that associative read (scott is mafia therefore hopeless must be town) I can't get a read on hopeless either way.

It's not an associative read.
You read me town from my point that is actually Hopelesswonder's point, yet you don't townread him.
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Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 26 2015 12:33 GMT
#465
like its prty obv tofu nor scott is mafia lol.

one person said i dont like this one setence about tofu and now there is a tofu train about to depart.

and scott is extremely towny. He seems like a new player and a new player isnt going to put out a list of reads and have it be all leans while they are mafia.

so instead of going with the flow of mafia pushing into tofu and scott lynch boxer or at least comment about my case on boxer that somehow people are ignoring.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 26 2015 12:33 GMT
#466
palmar, can you talk to me about these tone things?

i just came from a game with bf (we both did, actually) and he definitely wasn't timid endgame there...bullheadedly illogical but not going to be swayed from his opinion by anyone, basically. though i can't remember if he started out that way or not; i'd have to check...i pay so much less attention when i roll scum lol ><

why do you think tofu's just bad? i'll admit the one thing giving me pause was there are certain players you just don't go against as scum (i know how ironic this is after my last scum game lol ><), and assuming you're town, a palmar that is playing (and there was one other, maybe rayn?) aren't people most would go toe-to-toe with
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 26 2015 12:37 GMT
#467
On July 26 2015 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 21:28 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 26 2015 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier why is Hopeless not town then if my post is good?
It's basically his post.


Because outside of that associative read (scott is mafia therefore hopeless must be town) I can't get a read on hopeless either way.

It's not an associative read.
You read me town from my point that is actually Hopelesswonder's point, yet you don't townread him.


I was reading you as town before you made that point on hopeless.
I saw the post from hopeless when I was catching up but I wasn't sure what point he was making, it is town points in his favour certainly.
Zerg for Life
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 26 2015 12:38 GMT
#468
nah, i like the players on the tofu train just fine, snickers

and tofu's push on palmar was horrible. it's not a bad lynch. it could be a wrong lynch. i'm hoping palmar can articulate why he doesn't want to pull the trigger on it

a timid bf doesn't fit with my knowledge of bf, either, so that may actually be a thing, despite liking his big post. i'll admit that his posts made me twitch even as scum just cause of how little sense they made. i might be very wrong on him here because lack of twitch factor lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 26 2015 12:53 GMT
#469
On July 26 2015 21:33 Snickers wrote:
like its prty obv tofu nor scott is mafia lol.

one person said i dont like this one setence about tofu and now there is a tofu train about to depart.

and scott is extremely towny. He seems like a new player and a new player isnt going to put out a list of reads and have it be all leans while they are mafia.

so instead of going with the flow of mafia pushing into tofu and scott lynch boxer or at least comment about my case on boxer that somehow people are ignoring.


that is a weak reason to town read scott, especially to call him "extremely towny".

I'd lynch either of these 4

Tofu, Scott, clarity, Obi

Clarity, it's this "hopeless post is forced" thing and then trying to make people vote him like he started the wagon , the "cheerleader" effect.
He's basically just left the vote on him and fucked off without any real explanation. He has the pregame excuse that he won't be here all day so nothing more can be gained from him.

Obi, I need to see some more before I decide, but having absolutely nothing from him except his misrep of me and then lots of pokey one liners is difficult.

Zerg for Life
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 26 2015 13:59 GMT
#470
I am starting to agree Clarity is not a bad lynch at all.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 26 2015 15:30 GMT
#471
(46/80)

heh i had no clue how many posts i was on ^^ apparently i'm alright

ye, 100% unless i see something new from clarity, if we can get a lynch rolling on him i will lynch him over everyone else right now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 15:48 GMT
#472
On phone.
Current lynch list: scott. Probably ft.
Also hi.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:03 GMT
#473
Where is everyone? :/
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:09 GMT
#474
Anyways I'm going to vote FT.

My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread.

I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:14 GMT
#475
Can someone explain this clarity push to me?
Retired.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 26 2015 17:19 GMT
#476
On July 26 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty?
Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet?

Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless?

i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia.

Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself.


This is a really good post.

Snickers I think you're town and I love the energy you're bringing but Onegu is not the lynch today.

I'd lynch Scott or Tofu.

Scott is partly because of his early play which I questioned him on and I think rayn's point about his spreadsheet is good.

Tofu, his second "push" on palmar felt bad. his secondary scum also felt like he didn't really give a shit "rayn's been quiet"...yeh well it's a post restricted game but rayn had stepped up by that point. Then a throw away bf has a small filter.

I don't like obi either

People I think are town
rayn, rsol, snickers, onegu, palmar

there are others that I should try to work out; hopeless, clarity, obi, bf.

I want to read more from them. GB you can just say nothing and that would be fine.







That's not an alignment indicative post from Rayn
You keep taking about people you don't like without bringing reasons to it

You need to try to work out on hopeless, who has been up for the lynch the whole day1? How the fuck you don't have an idea on him?

You have to work out on clarity? He has just a few posts. Go take a look at him.

And about the bolded: you are unnecessarily antagonising be since the beginning of day1 and I don't see you doing this on purpose as town. You know you'll get me pissed off at some point.

Town, please. This guy is Mafia.
I'm adorable.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 26 2015 17:20 GMT
#477
On July 26 2015 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
From a quick glance into the last game FirmTofu was town in (that he posted more than 2 times on D1) from the database:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 07:40 FirmTofu wrote:
Gummy, I think I know what you're doing. Let it be known to posterity that I think its a terrible strategy.

We aren't going to have a lynch today. I think both Claw and Gummy are town, and no one else has enough evidence on top of them for me to even consider lynching them.

Get over yourself Gummy. There is no way you can deduce everyone's alignment from a handful of Day 1 posts. Let's wait a day and see if we get some REAL information.

##vote: No Lynch

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 08:02 FirmTofu wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:57 Ange777 wrote:
I still don't understand. Voting no lynch will leave us in almost the same situation on day 2 as now, only difference is we will know one colour but are down one townie. I fear that this won't be sufficient to rule scum out on day 2 as well.

This.

All I see with Gummy is a guy who thinks he is better than everyone else here and thinks he has the game figured out. He wants everyone to see how right he is, so he is pushing Claw with a single-minded focus with utter disregard for any legitimate strategy. I am not one who will vote with someone who allows his emotions to sway his decisions.

As you can see with all his bolded posts, he is simply spewing rhetoric and nonsensical arguments to get people to listen to him at this point. As I mentioned earlier, we should adopt a strict policy of ignoring Gummy until he gets his emotions in check.

FirmTofu why were you giving townreads on D1?
It is a scumtell and doesn't help anyone finding mafia remember?

I have played many games since then(not on this site) and I have since changed my view on this matter.

When we give town reads, we are vocally informing mafia of most town-read people in the game. These helps them choose their targets and doesn't do an effective job of eliminating mafia candidates for town. It is far better as town, statistically speaking, to talk about mafia candidates because talking about who you think is scummy helps us figure out who to lynch without compromising our town reads.

Most importantly, even if I fundamentally disagree with you on this view that townreads are bad town play, that doesn't make me mafia. I just disagree with you on how to play the game. Lynching someone for a disagreement is bad play. You should be lynching me for scummy behavior.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 26 2015 17:21 GMT
#478
Also, the fact that this train is catching so fast should be indicative of the fact that mafia is clearly very happy about this lynch.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:23 GMT
#479
On July 27 2015 02:21 FirmTofu wrote:
Also, the fact that this train is catching so fast should be indicative of the fact that mafia is clearly very happy about this lynch.


It wasn't really a fast train at all.
In fact you only showed up after I voted you.

Who's the mafia on your wagon and why?
Retired.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 26 2015 17:23 GMT
#480
On July 27 2015 02:21 FirmTofu wrote:
Also, the fact that this train is catching so fast should be indicative of the fact that mafia is clearly very happy about this lynch.


This would be true if the second wagon is Mafia. Do you believe scott or hopeless are Mafia?
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