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On July 07 2015 03:28 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
this is trfel's world:
"I haven't done anything and that's not the norm for any of my town games"
"hf scum reads me for that"
"that's just scummy!"
care to explain anything at all trfel? since you scum read me earlier and never elaborated then either That's not the reason for my scumread. And I'm not going to tell you my scumread now, because you are not getting lynched today, and I want to see if you keep doing the thing I'm scumreading you for.
Give me some reads trfel.
I don't want to wait until EoD for every list again :/
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On July 07 2015 03:31 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:27 marvellosity wrote:On July 07 2015 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 07 2015 03:20 marvellosity wrote:
my vote is still on mafia if anyone's interested Yeah okay. ##Vote ritokyI definitely prefer it over the truffle lynch. PS Rsoultin sounding pretty town though I can't quite put my finger on why what's wrong with the Trfel lynch? His first post that people jumped on is NAI, other than that I don't have any meta on him as I've never played with him or seen him play, but I don't see anything that indicated that he's scum. Not that he's been useful, but whatever. Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:28 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
this is trfel's world:
"I haven't done anything and that's not the norm for any of my town games"
"hf scum reads me for that"
"that's just scummy!"
care to explain anything at all trfel? since you scum read me earlier and never elaborated then either That's not the reason for my scumread. And I'm not going to tell you my scumread now, because you are not getting lynched today, and I want to see if you keep doing the thing I'm scumreading you for. I know it's dumb and I hate rewarding the "fuck you I'm not getting lynched you get no info from me" but I think this post makes him a bit more likely to be town. I feel he'll show his colours in time
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz none of that is the basis for any read
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s'ok, HF, we can fight this battle in 24h if we need to
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On July 07 2015 00:10 Palmar wrote:
boxer is town
agreed
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On July 07 2015 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
well it's simply the fact he was on my team and i know how he was posting and the agenda and it looks nothing like that here
i don't get the phrasing argument either because it doesn't make any sense
I'm comparing that to (usign an example) where he tried to turn arguments against Damdred in double mylo in Himalayas. That's another example that reminded me of.
On July 07 2015 03:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:19 Harkon wrote:On July 07 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:On July 07 2015 03:05 Holyflare wrote:On July 07 2015 03:03 Vivax wrote:
All this shit about Trfel is so distracting. All that's being discussed is Trfel and HF claimed the spotlight for himself.
Can we talk about geript? Or Damdred. I actually didn't like the way Damdred tried to bait LS into saying something damning earlier and then turned it into a scumread. It's not bad per se as it's a legit town strategy but my feels tingled with malicious intentions given that I don't get a scummy feeling from LS. geript has done nothing and has posted reads that don't make sense and are unexplained, it means nothing it's geriptdamdred focusing on ls so much is very weird but damdred's other scum reads are good and i'm waiting for his list of town reads ruxxar is so totally different from the last game i have no idea how people can scum read himls has done nothing scummy yet to be scum read geript has done this as mafia - the read on sandroba in JOAT is what comes to mind when they were both mafia, not to mention he has gotten mislynched before when people don't understand him - there was Carnaval and also NSM11... And I don't know how you can say ruxxar "is so totally different" when in last game he replaced in and he could play the way he did partially because he replaced in. I'm not saying that in of itself makes him one alignment or another but I think the basis for your comparison is flawed. Also, Ras did make a good point on him on the LS quote "lynching for bad reasons" and I see the phrasing from ruxxar like "how are you not explaining yourself in a clear and concise manner," etc etc it is just like some of the phrasing he DID use last game as mafia. Granted, maybe I have to read his NSM11 game one more time since I thought he was mafia from the obs qt, he didn't do a great job for himself in that game. But some of hte things he says I do get a feel that he tries to turn things around on people. If he does that as town or did that as town in NSM, then different criteria should be used to evaluate him. To me the argument about ruxxar and geript is quite similar actually. After quickly checking his himalaya filter ruxxar is posting very carefully and thoughtful there while it is the complete opposite in this game. The same applies to geript to an extent. As mafia he generally makes really thought out and well constructed posts. He is also generally way more townread as scum. As town he has very polarizing and borderline nonsensical reads and gets scumread. I am not really concerned with either of them at the moment. ^ that's basically it, ruxxar is far too carefree and his "i don't want to lynch you for bad reasons" post makes perfect sense and isn't awkward in the slightest
I'm reading ruxxar's NSM11 filter atm...
And I also don't understand ruxxar's followup but I may as well ask -
On July 07 2015 02:58 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:then there's this post: On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote:
Ls plz don't say too many stupid things.
I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons. I don't want LS to claim blue for dumb reasons.
So are you (ruxxar) saying this would make LS town/mafia if he does? What do you think of LS now, if anything?
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On July 07 2015 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
why is hf town marv?
i think he's town because i intuitively grasp his reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past
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Why is marvellosity town, Holyflare?
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On July 07 2015 03:37 ritoky wrote:agreed
Since you are back in thread, do you have any scum reads you are confident or semi-confident on?
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On July 07 2015 03:31 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:28 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
this is trfel's world:
"I haven't done anything and that's not the norm for any of my town games"
"hf scum reads me for that"
"that's just scummy!"
care to explain anything at all trfel? since you scum read me earlier and never elaborated then either That's not the reason for my scumread. And I'm not going to tell you my scumread now, because you are not getting lynched today, and I want to see if you keep doing the thing I'm scumreading you for. I know it's dumb and I hate rewarding the "fuck you I'm not getting lynched you get no info from me" but I think this post makes him a bit more likely to be town. I feel he'll show his colours in time
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He's saying HF won't get lynched, not that he himself won't get lynched.
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On July 07 2015 03:37 Trfel wrote:
Why is marvellosity town, Holyflare?
because he has intuitively grasped my reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past
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On July 07 2015 03:37 marvellosity wrote:i think he's town because i intuitively grasp his reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past
so mindmeld...how good is this read of yours? like in rough percentage?
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On July 07 2015 03:33 Trfel wrote:
I don't see much reason to scumread Damdred.
Yeh I'd like to see Vivax elaborate on where he thought Damdred was trying to trap LS.
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I'm not going to bother so long as you guys keep on ignoring oats.
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well keep on being poop then geript, nobody is going to listen to a line of post that says 0 reasons on why someone is mafia
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On July 06 2015 17:28 Trfel wrote:Pointless Conversation+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:20 Trfel wrote:Hi. I need to go take a sauna now. Raynpelikoneet would approve, I assume  I'll probably be mostly active in the evenings, lately I've been busier during the day. So if you scumread me for lack of activity or lack of active discussion, you'll be wrong. Anyway, this should be a fun (if spammy) game. And an easy win. Scum, you don't have a chance. but, but, but... this was our favorite! ;o; judas Yes, but you see the song I linked has a (terrible) connection to the point I am attempting to convey. "Sports Song" is my favorite from Weird Al's recent songs, anyway.
On July 06 2015 07:31 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote:On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
##vote trfel
Super over explained afk entry excuse post You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on... Scum #2 I've caught. Must be a lot of mafia in this game when you catch them while less than half the game didn't even post. There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax? Do you normally miss jokes?
On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy Do not! Only that one time.... If you must know, I wrote my entrance post for this game after the Day post....
On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game. Thanks for the confidence WaveofShadow, but she most definitely can read me...
On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? I don't even....
On July 06 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
chem work to do... Well now I'm feeling pretty stupid...
On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't. This is really stupid, but I think this post actually gets him a town lean...
Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 12:30 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 12:29 milo109 wrote:
Alright you people are boring. I'll be back in the morning. When you wake up care to give me your thoughts? Has LightningStrike ever used phrasing like this before?
At the moment, I'm most suspicious of (in no order) scott31337, LightningStrike, and Holyflare. I'm suspicious of LightningStrike partially because of what Damdred said. While Damdred's point wasn't great, LightningStrike's response (looking up the games that were missing from his initial post) seems very telling. Furthermore, I don't think that LightningStrike has ever used the phrasing in the above quote as town. Usually, he says "please give me your reads" or "what are your reads, please" or something like that. In contrast, "care to give me your thoughts" is far more reserved. And the rest of LightningStrike's posting in this game is far more aggressive than I'm used to seeing from him. It feels like the strongest argument against LightningStrike is how his play has been affected by the pressure he's been under. As people bring up different things, he posts in different ways as a result. Side note, why are girls so confusing.... (and no, I'm not talking about anyone in this game)
This looks really familiar - throw out some suspicions, and then work on your agenda.
I don't like this post at all.
On July 06 2015 20:16 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hype! And already information.
Holyflare claiming VT is interesting. Doesn't seem something scum would do or think of this quickly after PMs went out/daypost went up.
Not lynching him today. strange entry post, why would you believe a first-post-of-the-day-VT-claim?
Did you read how he came to that conclusion? It made a lot of sense to me - mindmeldy...
On July 06 2015 20:54 boxerfred wrote:
You have been following the VT claim blindly, which is sheeping.
I like HF for more then the VT claim - also his interaction with rsoul.
Good case - could sheep...
On July 06 2015 22:57 boxerfred wrote:
Okay i hardclaim cop
This was posted while marv/ksc/hard were on rsoul, and I'm pretty confident it was to throw off discussion.
On July 06 2015 23:36 boxerfred wrote:
Yep sorry, just contributing from mobile in the Bus, throwing out ideas.
Yeah and im no cop.
I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way...
I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love.
1) Marvellosity townie after the morning
2) Scott31337 town
3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly
4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town
5) ruXxar slight town
6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel
7) Bill Murray wanderer claim
8) ritoky slight town
9) geript slight town
10) boxerfred null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul.
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) Trfel Crap start but can be a big poster too
13) LightningStrike Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases
14) Palmar Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in
15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean
16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave
18) Breshke Ehh
19) Oatsmaster Says Clarity /WoS mafia
20) Damdred Slight town going after LS
21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, scumlean
22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost
23) Harkon Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh
24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - town
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X
I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread.
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On July 07 2015 03:39 geript wrote:
I'm not going to bother so long as you guys keep on ignoring oats.
i don't know how to read oats reliably? so...yeh
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On July 07 2015 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
well keep on being poop then geript, nobody is going to listen to a line of post that says 0 reasons on why someone is mafia
Keep on being poop HF for not being good enough to understand my reads
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On July 07 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:37 marvellosity wrote:On July 07 2015 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
why is hf town marv? i think he's town because i intuitively grasp his reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past so mindmeld...how good is this read of yours? like in rough percentage?
god. like 80%?
normally what has happened is that i have a good read on HF early and then other people make me wrongly doubt it.
like if HF starts pushing things i don't see then i'll reconsider, but i've not seen that yet.
like it's *possible* he just happened to pick out a bunch of townreads that were the same i hadn't mentioned yet because he's just that good, but meeeeeh
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8) ritoky slight town
only one i'm confused about
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