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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:41 geript wrote: Keep on being poop HF for not being good enough to understand my reads your attitude is pretty scummy because it looks like you're angling to be ignored while whining that you're being ignored. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:41 geript wrote: Keep on being poop HF for not being good enough to understand my reads ahh i'm not good enough because i'm town totally not mafia defending my scum buddy oats you heard it here folks the god of reads town reads me | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:41 marvellosity wrote: god. like 80%? normally what has happened is that i have a good read on HF early and then other people make me wrongly doubt it. like if HF starts pushing things i don't see then i'll reconsider, but i've not seen that yet. like it's *possible* he just happened to pick out a bunch of townreads that were the same i hadn't mentioned yet because he's just that good, but meeeeeh nh i haven't played as many games with him as you have. but the shitfight thing is a perfect read so far, and it was better than yours in ippo. i dunnae...i'll just sit on it i guess | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote: nh i haven't played as many games with him as you have. but the shitfight thing is a perfect read so far, and it was better than yours in ippo. i dunnae...i'll just sit on it i guess i did think he was town there, but for different reasons than i did here, it was just tonal (wrongly) although in my defence (not that i mind being wrong) i did start making it clear n2 that i preferred jat as the fight promoter guy rather than HF - that was the feeling bubbling up in my stomach | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On July 06 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote: If you dislike playing mafia with anyone play voice mafia with them you 100% love those people later. Ls what do you make of Scott asking rs for her read on you so early? Any experiences with him? On July 06 2015 07:47 Damdred wrote: Oh? I think I've played with town Scott once. But ls any other thoughts about him? On July 06 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote: Oh carp... ls why did you roll scum? Which question(s) are you finding loaded/baitworthy? (He also asked another one about experiences with HF, didn't think that should be an issue.) On July 06 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote: Ok ls, for example you did put a little work in by copy and pasteing his games I will give you that there is a point for you. However I feel like I'm partially repeating myself and I want the thread to go and look at ls at the earliest opportunities look at his scum games. He isn't coming up with his own conclusions he is relying on others to interpret the games before he gives it a go. Clarity, how can you say you really don't want to give out town reads like that when it feels like that's what you did with hf? Rsoultin, your post makes me want to town read you.. On July 06 2015 11:22 Damdred wrote: Yeah see now you just sound fake. for instance Scott has what 8 games played maybe? I haven't counted exactly how many but its a good sample size and all of then are recentish. Now in previous games ls when asked even early on would break out ten tons of meta in the first few pages and come to a conclusion. Whatever game we just played ls did this and I was able to meta him as town in the first few pages and you gave me hell about it until I explained my meta read on him being town which was 100% right. now in that game he metad shockey and went through all his games that were years old to try to get some form of read, he failed to come to a super solid conclussioj but the effort was there with little to go ok and he did the work. Here like I mentioned earlier he had already hinted he was leaning scum on Scott. When confronted with this he 100% shifted all the work to the thread and said here's the games I'll wait to do this till later when that's the opposite of what he normally would do and soon as the thread turned its attention away from ls he dissapeared and fave nothing more. And I'm not sure if you are scum or just bad for acting this way and throwing dirt on me. I'm not seeing anything jump out at me (at least from these quotes) about Damdred being scummy. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:37 Half the Sky wrote: So are you (ruxxar) saying this would make LS town/mafia if he does? What do you think of LS now, if anything? 1) It would mean he's town. 2) I think LS is towny, he's showing intent/effort to change his play instead of just imitating his town meta and get away with looking towny. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:45 marvellosity wrote: i did think he was town there, but for different reasons than i did here, it was just tonal (wrongly) although in my defence (not that i mind being wrong) i did start making it clear n2 that i preferred jat as the fight promoter guy rather than HF - that was the feeling bubbling up in my stomach lol okay >< i think i was too irritated at the both of you that game to notice | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:46 marvellosity wrote: like i don't expect anyone to take my read on HF as gospel, it's just my read and i'm happy with it right now don't worry. i'm not xP but i think you're town, so for what it's worth -shrugs- don't agree with you on trfel either but i actually don't think it's unreasonable for people to be scumreading him? i just don't like what hf's doing >< | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
There is no insight, no logic, no spears of truth. His lazy post with 3 scumreads where he kinda explains just one (LS) is just so meh i can't describe | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
ok I'll try to answer everything of I miss some things just quote them and I'll get them, or if you have a person you specifically want me to talk about I'll try to get to it. Firstly a list of people I am town reading currently: Ruxxor: last game we played together one of the things or a few things I caught him on was weird interactions with people suspecting them and then forgetting what he's typed. He seems to be a little more consistent with what he's said even if he is putting things a bit odd. Also tone wise he is way different, he seems a bit more relaxed and happier here while my experience with him as scum has been super angry sounding. Content wise he also makes a bit of sense with what he's posting so far. Marv: Mostly its a tone thing plus he seems really involved in everything going on. I like and understand how he's looking at the game. Kel: Has really put the work into the game so far that I would expect from a town kel, he has dug through posts in here and has kept brining things back up that he doesn't agree with and he keeps re evaluating as the game goes. Ie when I told him to checkour last game he did and changed a bit of what he said. Hf: I'm scared of him bit he seems a lot more involved early and seems to be pushing things from a good angle to me. He doesn't sound really stinky to me atm so I'm ok with him being town here. Hts is someone who I like at this point but don't have a firm handle on right now. For example I can understand the thought processes she uses in giving the reads and when others don't understand you can see a struggle to get people to understand it. Sticks to the guns but seems to really want to work with people to get them to understand the perspective. I think has a good shot at town palmar is a Toney thing and I like him but I always do. If anyone has any more specific questions about people not on my list ask. @kel currently in struggling with my rsoultin read. I'm of two minds whenever her and hf fight one of them is generally scum as they usually get along pretty well. But on the other hand she's so obstinante and doesn't care what people think shed just going to say whatever the hell she wants, that's a town trait to me of hers to. Overall I'm still thinking town but a couple of misgivings about her. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:46 ruXxar wrote: This is a really bad read.1) It would mean he's town. 2) I think LS is towny, he's showing intent/effort to change his play instead of just imitating his town meta and get away with looking towny. He's playing differently from his town meta. This doesn't mean that he is town, because LightningStrike isn't all that good at imitating his town meta as scum. No one can completely match their town meta as scum... | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
##vote ritoky I'm going to assume he is still in thread... in any case, ritoky, do you have even one scumread you are sure on independent of anyone else? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:51 Trfel wrote: This is a really bad read. He's playing differently from his town meta. This doesn't mean that he is town, because LightningStrike isn't all that good at imitating his town meta as scum. No one can completely match their town meta as scum... For someone being so heavily invested in meta, I would expect LS to be one of the best at imitating his town meta if he wanted to. | ||
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Harkon
569 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:51 Half the Sky wrote: Nothing from ritoky yet? ##vote ritoky I'm going to assume he is still in thread... in any case, ritoky, do you have even one scumread you are sure on independent of anyone else? Fine. Let's make him play. ##Vote: ritoky | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:51 Trfel wrote: This is a really bad read. He's playing differently from his town meta. This doesn't mean that he is town, because LightningStrike isn't all that good at imitating his town meta as scum. No one can completely match their town meta as scum... Look I was trying to be a little lazy because I can prob imitate my super early meta reads as scum and trying to shy away from it as it also had made people pissed off because of me doing all super early metas and stuff and I don't want people to get pissed off because of it and now I getting scumread for not doing it................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:51 Trfel wrote: This is a really bad read. He's playing differently from his town meta. This doesn't mean that he is town, because LightningStrike isn't all that good at imitating his town meta as scum. No one can completely match their town meta as scum... Well I look at that and the question I had here is how he'd know that effort to change his play ISN'T mafia, if a player knows he's getting caught out as mafia (and to an extent LS has) he should be even more inclined to change his play altogether if he rolls scum again. Let's try this differently - this is for ruxxar - what independently of meta (namely are there any quotes/pages/citations from this game) that makes you think he's town. You've played two games total and only one with LS (he didn't play NSM11 I don't think), therefore it is reasonable to assume you cannot reliably meta LS. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:50 Damdred wrote: Hey guys I got distracted while I was finishing things up at the house cleaning days are a bitch. ok I'll try to answer everything of I miss some things just quote them and I'll get them, or if you have a person you specifically want me to talk about I'll try to get to it. Firstly a list of people I am town reading currently: Ruxxor: last game we played together one of the things or a few things I caught him on was weird interactions with people suspecting them and then forgetting what he's typed. He seems to be a little more consistent with what he's said even if he is putting things a bit odd. Also tone wise he is way different, he seems a bit more relaxed and happier here while my experience with him as scum has been super angry sounding. Content wise he also makes a bit of sense with what he's posting so far. Marv: Mostly its a tone thing plus he seems really involved in everything going on. I like and understand how he's looking at the game. Kel: Has really put the work into the game so far that I would expect from a town kel, he has dug through posts in here and has kept brining things back up that he doesn't agree with and he keeps re evaluating as the game goes. Ie when I told him to checkour last game he did and changed a bit of what he said. Hf: I'm scared of him bit he seems a lot more involved early and seems to be pushing things from a good angle to me. He doesn't sound really stinky to me atm so I'm ok with him being town here. Hts is someone who I like at this point but don't have a firm handle on right now. For example I can understand the thought processes she uses in giving the reads and when others don't understand you can see a struggle to get people to understand it. Sticks to the guns but seems to really want to work with people to get them to understand the perspective. I think has a good shot at town palmar is a Toney thing and I like him but I always do. If anyone has any more specific questions about people not on my list ask. @kel currently in struggling with my rsoultin read. I'm of two minds whenever her and hf fight one of them is generally scum as they usually get along pretty well. But on the other hand she's so obstinante and doesn't care what people think shed just going to say whatever the hell she wants, that's a town trait to me of hers to. Overall I'm still thinking town but a couple of misgivings about her. heh at least you're not being all tunnel vision anymore >< how exactly can ls be "lazy" when the game has barely started? that's what i just don't understand | ||
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