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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 06 2015 19:10 GMT
#1301
On July 07 2015 04:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:07 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:54 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Nothing from ritoky yet?

##vote ritoky

I'm going to assume he is still in thread... in any case, ritoky, do you have even one scumread you are sure on independent of anyone else?

Fine. Let's make him play.
##Vote: ritoky


this is really stupid

Why? He is clearly here and marvs stuff is decent enough.


because your "pressure" vote is totally pointless if you qualify it in the same post.




No, it is not. He either plays and is towny or he dies. This is not a pure pressure vote.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 06 2015 19:12 GMT
#1302
On July 07 2015 04:10 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:07 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:54 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Nothing from ritoky yet?

##vote ritoky

I'm going to assume he is still in thread... in any case, ritoky, do you have even one scumread you are sure on independent of anyone else?

Fine. Let's make him play.
##Vote: ritoky


this is really stupid

Why? He is clearly here and marvs stuff is decent enough.


because your "pressure" vote is totally pointless if you qualify it in the same post.




No, it is not. He either plays and is towny or he dies. This is not a pure pressure vote.


You shouldn't be so whilly-nilly about placing your vote on town in a majority lynch game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:12 GMT
#1303
On July 06 2015 09:30 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 09:21 geript wrote:
On July 06 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 09:17 geript wrote:
On July 06 2015 09:14 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:38 geript wrote:
@HF who are your townreads.

Oh and btw Wubby is 100% town.


Player List
1) Marvellosity
2) Scott31337
3) WaveofShadow (filter)
4) Clarity_nl (filter)
5) ruXxar (filter) <--- pretty sure
12) Trfel (filter)
16) KelsierSC (filter)
20) Damdred (filter)
21) rsoultin (filter)
24) Holyflare (filter)

I'm not sure if you're right on Damdred. I'm sure you're wrong on wave. I agree about Ruxx. The big thing though is that you're wrong on Wave. He's town.


i don't care what you think about wave tbh so cool

You better start caring because you're not going to lynch him because I don't get to play with him often and we're both town. So find a different lynch to push.


Over-emphasized defense at this point in the game.

In the event geript ever flips mafia, WoS is likely town cuz blatant attempted pocket/spew.


This post is one of the main reasons I'm scum reading you atm rit.

Your activity is not really concerning to me as I know you can and will afk as both alignments. However this post just screams for follow up and the ritoky touch I know you for. But you completely forget about it geript and wave have done things in the game but you are content not to bring up any thoughts, don't push either of them.

the only thing you do is say that I'm wrong or scum. And you have been here since that post you just don't care to find scum
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 19:13 GMT
#1304
On July 07 2015 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
You're right I don't have a good meta-read on LS. I'm not trying to meta him.

This is what made me like him:

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 22:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
LS can you explain why you think it is easier to read scott later rather than ealier?

Well mainly it's his filter size from wha I had looked at those games hence why I was hestitant about giving a very quick read on him(Although I giving him a slight townlean for now it feels like people want me to be automatic about my meta stuff and I trying to break that habit a bit because it gets me in trouble with others). Anyways I going to read the thread and will answer stuff as I read.


I love you for saying this LS.


Oh dear that quote....

Admittedly LS's sentence is very tenuous but if I'm understanding it correctly, I think I know why he's saying that the way he is. But I've had a great deal of exposure to LS, so I know where that comes from.

But you have only played twice with him. Why do you think he's town especially for the bolded? Why would/should any townie care whether a typically townie meta/method/approach would land him in trouble?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 06 2015 19:13 GMT
#1305
1-shot dumbledore

move on.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 06 2015 19:13 GMT
#1306
On July 07 2015 04:12 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:10 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:07 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:54 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Nothing from ritoky yet?

##vote ritoky

I'm going to assume he is still in thread... in any case, ritoky, do you have even one scumread you are sure on independent of anyone else?

Fine. Let's make him play.
##Vote: ritoky


this is really stupid

Why? He is clearly here and marvs stuff is decent enough.


because your "pressure" vote is totally pointless if you qualify it in the same post.




No, it is not. He either plays and is towny or he dies. This is not a pure pressure vote.


You shouldn't be so whilly-nilly about placing your vote on town in a majority lynch game.

Thanks for the advice!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
July 06 2015 19:14 GMT
#1307
Some rule clarifications:

Notifications: Notifications are minimal for things like roleblock etc. Investigative roles know if they are roleblocked, and 1-shot and 2-shot roles of any kind know if they are roleblocked. Otherwise roleblocks are not notified.

Multiple Actions: A player who has multiple actions can take as many as they'd like in a night. The only restriction is that you can only deliver 1 kp per night.

So if you're a Vigilante and a Gunsmith gives you a gun, you can fire the gunsmith gun, or your gun, but not both in one night. If you're a Jailkeeper and a Gunsmith gives you a gun, you can Jailkeep one person and shoot a person in the same night. If you're a VT and two Gunsmiths give you guns, you can fire the guns one at a time, but not both in the same night. If you're mafia and a Gunsmith gives you a gun, you can fire the gunsmith gun, or your factional KP, but not both in the same night.

These rule clarifications have been added to the OP.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:14 GMT
#1308
On July 07 2015 04:10 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:07 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:54 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Nothing from ritoky yet?

##vote ritoky

I'm going to assume he is still in thread... in any case, ritoky, do you have even one scumread you are sure on independent of anyone else?

Fine. Let's make him play.
##Vote: ritoky


this is really stupid

Why? He is clearly here and marvs stuff is decent enough.


because your "pressure" vote is totally pointless if you qualify it in the same post.




No, it is not. He either plays and is towny or he dies. This is not a pure pressure vote.


Harkon who is your top scumread?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 06 2015 19:14 GMT
#1309
On July 07 2015 03:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:41 geript wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
well keep on being poop then geript, nobody is going to listen to a line of post that says 0 reasons on why someone is mafia

Keep on being poop HF for not being good enough to understand my reads

your attitude is pretty scummy because it looks like you're angling to be ignored while whining that you're being ignored.

Nah, it's just that have no intentions of helping you guys and will ignore everyone and anyone who chooses to ignore my reads. It's a 2 way street marv. You know I tend to have very good reads early on and very strong well developed meta reads later on. Especially my townread early on are usually quite on point; exceptionally fantastically on point. It's one of the reasons why I've made a note that I still don't have a townread on Damdred. That should at least alert you to there being a problem there.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:15 GMT
#1310
On July 07 2015 04:10 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:17 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:03 Vivax wrote:
All this shit about Trfel is so distracting. All that's being discussed is Trfel and HF claimed the spotlight for himself.

Can we talk about geript? Or Damdred. I actually didn't like the way Damdred tried to bait LS into saying something damning earlier and then turned it into a scumread. It's not bad per se as it's a legit town strategy but my feels tingled with malicious intentions given that I don't get a scummy feeling from LS.


What phrase/words struck you as "bait" (or loaded, etc)? I remember reading his questioning and he's been on about LS I think for most of his time in game?


Yeah the way it built up felt to me like he was looking for reasons to scumread him. I know how shitty that sounds cause ti's what this game it's about but the way he was going on about it felt like he was just looking for a weak spot in order to find some reasons for the sake of it.


Ls and I have interactions like that early in every game because he has tells that he refuses to change for the most part in his meta, or just doesn't care as scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
July 06 2015 19:15 GMT
#1311
If ritoky is scum clarity is as well cause it's the only thing he commented about on now that he's back. Such a shift in attention isn't justified based on clarity's former suspects.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 06 2015 19:15 GMT
#1312
On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote:
1-shot dumbledore

move on.

Why would you claim this early without even trying to get townread instead? Not buying it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
July 06 2015 19:16 GMT
#1313
On July 07 2015 04:15 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:10 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:17 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:03 Vivax wrote:
All this shit about Trfel is so distracting. All that's being discussed is Trfel and HF claimed the spotlight for himself.

Can we talk about geript? Or Damdred. I actually didn't like the way Damdred tried to bait LS into saying something damning earlier and then turned it into a scumread. It's not bad per se as it's a legit town strategy but my feels tingled with malicious intentions given that I don't get a scummy feeling from LS.


What phrase/words struck you as "bait" (or loaded, etc)? I remember reading his questioning and he's been on about LS I think for most of his time in game?


Yeah the way it built up felt to me like he was looking for reasons to scumread him. I know how shitty that sounds cause ti's what this game it's about but the way he was going on about it felt like he was just looking for a weak spot in order to find some reasons for the sake of it.


Ls and I have interactions like that early in every game because he has tells that he refuses to change for the most part in his meta, or just doesn't care as scum.


I'm pretty good at reading him myself. But if that's your way of doing that, I'll take you by your word. Then I still wonder why we reach different conclusions.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 06 2015 19:17 GMT
#1314
On July 07 2015 04:15 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote:
1-shot dumbledore

move on.

Why would you claim this early without even trying to get townread instead? Not buying it.


i buy it just because he got the - in the right place
Zerg for Life
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 06 2015 19:17 GMT
#1315
On July 07 2015 04:15 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote:
1-shot dumbledore

move on.

Why would you claim this early without even trying to get townread instead? Not buying it.


It is majority lynch, halfway to a majority; no point in risking it. I am a low priority rb/nk at this point so bullets and abilities wasted on me is as beneficial to the town as a check. Plus pregnant wife close to giving birth and not caring about wanting to defend myself.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
July 06 2015 19:18 GMT
#1316
On July 07 2015 04:15 Vivax wrote:
If ritoky is scum clarity is as well cause it's the only thing he commented about on now that he's back. Such a shift in attention isn't justified based on clarity's former suspects.


In fact I'll take the conditional away and just ask why ritoky is suddenly so important in clarity's eyes. Cause the only reason I see for such a change is that he's the main wagon.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:18 GMT
#1317
On July 07 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
You're right I don't have a good meta-read on LS. I'm not trying to meta him.

This is what made me like him:

On July 06 2015 22:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
LS can you explain why you think it is easier to read scott later rather than ealier?

Well mainly it's his filter size from wha I had looked at those games hence why I was hestitant about giving a very quick read on him(Although I giving him a slight townlean for now it feels like people want me to be automatic about my meta stuff and I trying to break that habit a bit because it gets me in trouble with others). Anyways I going to read the thread and will answer stuff as I read.


I love you for saying this LS.


Oh dear that quote....

Admittedly LS's sentence is very tenuous but if I'm understanding it correctly, I think I know why he's saying that the way he is. But I've had a great deal of exposure to LS, so I know where that comes from.

But you have only played twice with him. Why do you think he's town especially for the bolded? Why would/should any townie care whether a typically townie meta/method/approach would land him in trouble?


Because I was the one of the main people harping on him to not use meta-reads in the last game.

The fact that LS is willing to risk stepping out of his shell and willing to change his play without being scared of getting scumread is a towntrait from my POV of LS.

It's my personality read of LS.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 06 2015 19:19 GMT
#1318
On July 07 2015 04:17 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:15 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote:
1-shot dumbledore

move on.

Why would you claim this early without even trying to get townread instead? Not buying it.


It is majority lynch, halfway to a majority; no point in risking it. I am a low priority rb/nk at this point so bullets and abilities wasted on me is as beneficial to the town as a check. Plus pregnant wife close to giving birth and not caring about wanting to defend myself.

The day isn't even half over. This is majority not instant majority. And you are a high priority rb/nk now if you actually are what you claim to be.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
July 06 2015 19:19 GMT
#1319
On July 07 2015 04:17 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:15 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote:
1-shot dumbledore

move on.

Why would you claim this early without even trying to get townread instead? Not buying it.


It is majority lynch, halfway to a majority; no point in risking it. I am a low priority rb/nk at this point so bullets and abilities wasted on me is as beneficial to the town as a check. Plus pregnant wife close to giving birth and not caring about wanting to defend myself.


Somehow in every game your wife is always an argument, I think it's time she starts playing mafia.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 06 2015 19:20 GMT
#1320
On July 07 2015 04:19 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:17 ritoky wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:15 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote:
1-shot dumbledore

move on.

Why would you claim this early without even trying to get townread instead? Not buying it.


It is majority lynch, halfway to a majority; no point in risking it. I am a low priority rb/nk at this point so bullets and abilities wasted on me is as beneficial to the town as a check. Plus pregnant wife close to giving birth and not caring about wanting to defend myself.


Somehow in every game your wife is always an argument, I think it's time she starts playing mafia.


Believe it or not pregnancy takes 9 months.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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