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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
The marv nuke is arguably worse than the Trfel nuke, so my vote remains well placed. | ||
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Vivax
21700 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:12 Half the Sky wrote: 16/60 I'm back. Closing in on the first half of D1 we're at a point where Trfel (normally the town leader) should be providing some thing in the ways of his analysis, at least for what I'm familiar with. He's been active with advocating BM's lynch so you'd think... Trfel, if BM were removed from the game, whom would you lynch today? The same thing I'd say applies to JAT. Your last response to me was tentative, and I know you (and many others) want to policy BM, and want Vivax gone, but even with this amount of content surely you can name at least one additional scumread by now. My stance on Vivax remains the same. Though he's posted, now that he's being called out, it's posts like these that give me the impression he's posting for the sake of posting. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=710&topic_id=484076 It's pretty obvious going into Ras's filter why she does this, it also shows no part on his end searching for information that would determine her alignment. Looking at TD's subsequent posts, I'm pretty sure he's town, but I'll look into his filter to make sure I'm not missing anything. I dont even know why it's obvious she would be doing this, and even then your argument is that I'm scum cause you disagree and cause you don't consider my points to be a way of determining her alignment, so you should expand on this more. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Rasputin, since you asked me on Onegu: On May 12 2015 00:16 Onegu wrote: Why is Rsoul getting town read so hard so fast. I know she can look really townie but Im not seeing it. She seems almost lazy to me. Her reads arent that intense either. I know she never has confidence in her reads but still they are normally stronger. Seems soft to me. If she rolled scum and I didnt Im going to be upset. Since this isnt a PM game here is my mandatory non town read on her <3. If I had to look at his read on you alone...overexplained.....I don't know if I could consider it "overexplained" tbh. If Onegu is scum, I don't think this read makes him scum. Part of this is a fear read on you (Student 7, where he replaced out) where he nailed you on your hesistancy when someone scumreads you, so when I read this again, my impression is that he tried to connect that with how he interpreted your reads (not so intense). I think this is earnest town Onegu here. It doesn't sound like he's taking your play out of context but I can see where he's getting the connection. I don't agree with the read given your subsequent posts though I am curious to see if he changes his stance on you. I might have a problem if he still says you're too soft. | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:12 Half the Sky wrote: The same thing I'd say applies to JAT. Your last response to me was tentative, and I know you (and many others) want to policy BM, and want Vivax gone, but even with this amount of content surely you can name at least one additional scumread by now. Honestly? No. I can give you my current "do not lynch" list which is rather sizable but I am absolutely not decided on who to lynch besides BM. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:28 Vivax wrote: I dont even know why it's obvious she would be doing this, and even then your argument is that I'm scum cause you disagree and cause you don't consider my points to be a way of determining her alignment, so you should expand on this more. Operative words are in bold - you aren't reading the thread. And if you aren't reading the thread, especially given the quality of your posts as of late, you certainly aren't trying to solve the game. Both Kelsier and Onegu (and I think one more? but at least those two) pushed her on that issue, Oatsmaster commented on her posts being difficult to read (I have no idea why, but I digress). It was an issue ~20h ago, it's a bit shocking you've missed that. You're focusing on her in your post and even worse if she was in the thread at the same time you were, you're not even interacting with her. All scumlike behaviour. I really do feel you are trying to compensate for being called on your scum meta and admitting you are playing suboptimally as town to help your own scum meta? I don't buy that. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:29 Half the Sky wrote: 17/60 Rasputin, since you asked me on Onegu: If I had to look at his read on you alone...overexplained.....I don't know if I could consider it "overexplained" tbh. If Onegu is scum, I don't think this read makes him scum. Part of this is a fear read on you (Student 7, where he replaced out) where he nailed you on your hesistancy when someone scumreads you, so when I read this again, my impression is that he tried to connect that with how he interpreted your reads (not so intense). I think this is earnest town Onegu here. It doesn't sound like he's taking your play out of context but I can see where he's getting the connection. I don't agree with the read given your subsequent posts though I am curious to see if he changes his stance on you. I might have a problem if he still says you're too soft. 22/60 could seriously be tunneling -_- please refer to all my points on him in the case-like post, though, and then get back to me. i mainly wanted to know if this try-hard seems like the student VII try-hard to you or not, cause it's definitely not the usual fuck-off gonna do what i want onegu that normally means town the over-explained thing was subjective, obviously, cause onegu isn't a huge poster anyway...other players obviously that wouldn't be over-explained i'm glad you quoted this though cause please explain to me how the final sentence matches the rest of the read? also this "not-town" theme is pretty stupid. i'm either scum or i'm not, and if you're going to list every reason to scumread me then soft a not-real read by accompanying it with a "mandatory" disclaimer it just doesn't match up not liking the <3s either but that's tonal | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
EBWOP - at Vivax, also saying "fuck you bh" after he anti-nuked BM isn't helping your credibility atm. JAT - what is your current DNL list? Vivax - If you're not scum, then tell me who is. Also regarding the recent BH nuke, I think it's a towny action, though I'm with Rasputin - explain what you thought of Trfel as you were saving him, or if you really saved him off a tone read? Or even better, looking at him now, do you regret saving him? | ||
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Vivax
21700 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:41 Half the Sky wrote: 19/60 EBWOP - at Vivax, also saying "fuck you bh" after he anti-nuked BM isn't helping your credibility atm. JAT - what is your current DNL list? Vivax - If you're not scum, then tell me who is. Also regarding the recent BH nuke, I think it's a towny action, though I'm with Rasputin - explain what you thought of Trfel as you were saving him, or if you really saved him off a tone read? Or even better, looking at him now, do you regret saving him? Why? He doesn't think if the nuke is worth it he just anti nukes and does nothing else. Same thing as with the previous nuke. If I had that role I'd have everyone who is getting nuked at least pray to me as their god and saviour. AND IN LATIN. And then I'd still decide if they're worth being nuked. He's playing it anti-fun and in super serious, super unsuspecting manner. So I don't think it's townie. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On May 12 2015 04:22 Damdred wrote: Xatalos could you give your full TD read now, I think you skipped it to this point ya? Something specific about him? I said earlier that he looked fine from the quality of his reads and for putting in some effort. I think there was a case against him somewhere but I can't remember being particularly impressed by it. Could someone make a summary of what makes him scum? | ||
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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:41 Half the Sky wrote: 19/60 EBWOP - at Vivax, also saying "fuck you bh" after he anti-nuked BM isn't helping your credibility atm. JAT - what is your current DNL list? Vivax - If you're not scum, then tell me who is. Also regarding the recent BH nuke, I think it's a towny action, though I'm with Rasputin - explain what you thought of Trfel as you were saving him, or if you really saved him off a tone read? Or even better, looking at him now, do you regret saving him? I think the following players should not be lynched today for different reasons. Order is not important. marv GB Trfel sandro HTS yamato bats rsoultin BH Damdred TD Palmar | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
If Bill Murray ever becomes not the leading wagon, I get nuked. So if I want to actually scumread someone else, I need to be sure enough about it that it is worth me dying and leaving a huge potential mislynch target alive (assuming Bill Murray is in fact town, which is by no means guaranteed). It's actually quite frustrating. I have an additional reason to be suspicious of Bill Murray, but it's best if I keep that to myself for now. Furthermore, Bill Murray's play last game (Student Mafia VIII) was quite reasonable and good, while Bill Murray has played erratically as town in the past, given his /in post: On May 04 2015 11:21 Bill Murray wrote: I would expect him to be willing to interact with people and play reasonably. And his play here is very far below the play he showed last game./in i am done with finals and promise to not be disruptive The best reason to townread Bill Murray is that it would be really weird if scum had a role that could launch multiple nukes in one day. But if scum did have this role, I would see them giving it to Bill Murray, and I would see Bill Murray doing something rather like this. Other than Bill Murray? I'm working on it. I have several suspicions, but they are best kept to myself at this time. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On May 12 2015 04:25 LightningStrike wrote: I got HTS as town she seems to try to get discussion going and not afraid of interacting with others plus her opening was very similar to her opening in the latest Titanic game when she was town. I got KSC as he trying to interact with others trying to give his thoughts and stuff and haven't been blue hunting like the time I ran into him when he was scum (Carol). I got Sandroba as town he actually had some good analyses early on that was insightful and isn't afraid of giving people a piece of his own mind. I got rsoultin (tina) as town even though she was being a pain in the butt (which I don't blame her because of Damdred being a pain in the butt towards her) she actually got some decent content. Vivax is my strongest scumread he haven't really posted much and not being crazy like I normally would expect from him when he's town. Could you clarify how you read Vivax? I don't remember playing with him when he's town (probably have but forgot). I think I've played with him when he was scum two times and both times he spread some random suspicion and was overall quite lazy/useless, especially later on. I kind of liked your post after this one where you explained your read on jat. It felt like you were actually considering his alignment. Gotta go to sleep soon but I'll consider alternative lynches when I get back to reading. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:48 Trfel wrote: Half the Sky, I'm not a town leader. I've tried to be a town leader, and that doesn't work for me. Right now, I'm at this really weird place... If Bill Murray ever becomes not the leading wagon, I get nuked. So if I want to actually scumread someone else, I need to be sure enough about it that it is worth me dying and leaving a huge potential mislynch target alive (assuming Bill Murray is in fact town, which is by no means guaranteed). It's actually quite frustrating. I have an additional reason to be suspicious of Bill Murray, but it's best if I keep that to myself for now. Furthermore, Bill Murray's play last game (Student Mafia VIII) was quite reasonable and good, while Bill Murray has played erratically as town in the past, given his /in post:I would expect him to be willing to interact with people and play reasonably. And his play here is very far below the play he showed last game. The best reason to townread Bill Murray is that it would be really weird if scum had a role that could launch multiple nukes in one day. But if scum did have this role, I would see them giving it to Bill Murray, and I would see Bill Murray doing something rather like this. Other than Bill Murray? I'm working on it. I have several suspicions, but they are best kept to myself at this time. Why hide your suspicions I mean even if they are wrong we would like to know them. Also guys at 4:30 pm CST I going to the Texas Ranger vs Kansas City Royals baseball game tonight so don't expect anything till later tonight after 4:30 pm CST! | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:54 Xatalos wrote: Could you clarify how you read Vivax? I don't remember playing with him when he's town (probably have but forgot). I think I've played with him when he was scum two times and both times he spread some random suspicion and was overall quite lazy/useless, especially later on. I kind of liked your post after this one where you explained your read on jat. It felt like you were actually considering his alignment. Gotta go to sleep soon but I'll consider alternative lynches when I get back to reading. Vivax as town is usually calls everyone scum at one point or another and actually engage people with somewhat reasonable manner till later in the game. As scum he's much lazier and loves to bus. You had played with Town Vivax in Carol  | ||
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Vivax
21700 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:58 LightningStrike wrote: Vivax as town is usually calls everyone scum at one point or another and actually engage people with somewhat reasonable manner till later in the game. As scum he's much lazier and loves to bus. You had played with Town Vivax in Carol Could be, can't remember him from there. Probably because the game was so short (I think it was the game where I was busted D1 and the game ended in a draw because of host failure or something) Tbh he's kind of been calling people scum so far. Not sure if that metric is so accurate. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On May 12 2015 06:09 Xatalos wrote: Could be, can't remember him from there. Probably because the game was so short (I think it was the game where I was busted D1 and the game ended in a draw because of host failure or something) Tbh he's kind of been calling people scum so far. Not sure if that metric is so accurate. No you conceded as scum because we lynched Unholyflare lol and Vivax was Night Killed I think. Ya he starting to call people mafia now so maybe it isn't alignment indicative as I thought but still he hasn't reallly done much other than arguing with others. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On May 12 2015 06:00 Vivax wrote: LS I'm sort of confident you're town and I'm a pleb, why do you think I'm mafia? Because all you been doing was arguing with others and doesn't seem like you got a whole lot of info other people's alignments. Thoughts and reads everyone please? | ||
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Inspector Javert
314 Posts
On May 12 2015 05:47 justanothertownie wrote: I think the following players should not be lynched today for different reasons. Order is not important. marv GB Trfel sandro HTS yamato bats rsoultin BH Damdred TD Palmar I'm good with this list. Would add Oats to it. | ||
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