EPTKinda sucks.
At least I didn't die.
HAven't read anything.
Won't do it till tomorrow.
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Koshi
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Kinda sucks. At least I didn't die. HAven't read anything. Won't do it till tomorrow. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On April 18 2015 08:44 Holyflare wrote: his alternative would be to what...? lynch me? how does he look worse? To stay in his scumread throughout the entire day instead of switching in deadline into a townie? | ||
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sicklucker
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GlowingBear
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GlowingBear
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How do you read WoS and Artanis now? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On April 18 2015 07:10 Holyflare wrote: Please don't make it too easy. This is your filter in guardians when you were mafia and said the exact same stuff. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the absolute best case I have ever seen as to why meta is absolutely fucking horrible. If HF is town, then it led him astray because a) he believes people can't change what they say or how they act in different situations b) he doesn't believe people are capable of faking things based on how they acted in past games. (The point here being not necessarily that LS was faking anything, but that just because he said/did one thing as scum in one game, doesn't mean he doesn't do it as town in another. Nobody knows his REASONS for doing/saying those things therefore just saying things =/= alignment). If HF is scum, then he knows the above is not true and knowingly used it to mislead the rest of town. (In which case honestly, gj seriously for finding that because under normal shit TL meta circumstances, that is fairly rock solid.) I have a bunch more to talk about so I won't answer anything until I'm done. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On April 18 2015 08:08 Holyflare wrote: people who afk'd deadline while voicing opinions against the ls lynch ignoring all evidence: waveofshadow vivax (grumble) people who just flat out afk'd: loafery va thisdeepguythatdidn'tevengetmodkilledorwarnedorreplacedwtf palmar koshi look into lynching these people but I'll be posting a lot more from now on in an attempt to get people to look more towny and/or give a shit This is the worst fucking post ever. First of all HF, I will politely and respectfully invite you to suck on a large bag of dicks. If it isn't well known by this point, deadlines before 8 PM or so EST are fairly shit for me and have been for the past couple years because I have a family, including a small child who goes to bed usually just before 8 PM. During this time, I am usually spending time with said family, eating dinner, putting my small child to bed, etc., meaning I will be away from my keyboard and cannot subject myself to every whim of the players in this game. Now, I am aware you're not calling me out solely for being afk on its own, but the fact remains that I participated in the thread for the previous LARGE number of hours before the deadline when I was around, I pushed a lynch (whether you like it or not), and attempted to get others to participate as well. You show up with a couple of hours to go, AS I PREDICTED. On April 18 2015 03:39 WaveofShadow wrote: It's pretty simple to me. I believe HF that he is attempting to change his meta. As either alignment that obviously fits so far. What is more simple, and more importantly, meta independent is the fact that he simply isn't doing shit. he might show up before deadline with his promised paragraph to fuck things up around lynch, but what kind of play would that be exactly? Meta change attempt or not, that is not good towny play, and HF is very capable of being a good townie. I don't give a shit about his meta. HF isn't helping town. He is scum. Now, while I'd like to blame all the people who blindly sheeped his meta case, I can't for multiple reasons. First of all, it looked good. Second, I wasn't around to strongly attempt to steer the lynch back into him or at the very least off of LS who I was fairly sure was town, and like HF rightly said I didn't offer much proof as I was busy at the time and couldn't post in large amounts. Vivax attempted to do so for me, and I have to admit the fact that his thoughts are fairly in sync with mine around lynch time and after scares me just a little bit. I think I can count one game I've ever played with Vivax where I've trusted him. Regardless, I trust him for now. The fact remains LS was not a good lynch in my eyes simply because I've now played with him outside of mafia a few times and I think I have an idea of what the guy is like. His posting seemed absolutely genuine when you know what kind of a personality LS has. On April 18 2015 06:22 LightningStrike wrote: Holyflare you realized I hate playing as scum you should know this esp after what happened in Guardians -_- You got Paranoia or are you drunk? This one especially. I can envision him actually saying this, and it's genuine. I wasn't able to express that earlier and I'm sorry for that; yes I have a hand in the mislynch along with everyone else even though I never would have voted him. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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GlowingBear On April 18 2015 05:12 GlowingBear wrote: Nope, the more I think about it, the more I see him as Mafia. And I had WoS as a null (some posts felt townish, other mafiaish), but I'm having a hard time believing town WoS would really believe drunk GB would be dumb enough to say he has a qt in a mason-less game and really mean it, and that he really wouldn't realise I was trying to develop discussion in this discussion-less thread. On April 18 2015 06:03 GlowingBear wrote: 10/10 I really thought he was confused and he is newbie after all, so WoS pushing the matter was more damning than him. But continuously pushing the matter looks forced. I'd lynch I absolutely didn't feel GB was trying to generate discussion in the thread by calling me scum right away and drunkposting stupid shit about a qt. My exposure to drunk mafia players is raynpelikoneet, and that should say it all, to be honest. It may not be likely, but I certainly find it possible that a drunk GB got online and acted like an idiot, softclaiming scum in thread either as some sort of brag for end of game or because he was just drunk. As such suspicions on him were open from the start. As the thread progresses I continually speak with him, continue to refer to him calling me scum but he doesn't seem to want to cement a read on me one way or the other. I was leaning scum on him as I stated earlier. On April 18 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote: Ok I liked HF case and I want to try a method to evaluate his gameplay + I said I would sheep him I'm voting LS until someone else agrees to vote deep soul or loafery The above quote gave me pause because although it could be bullshit, I'm not so sure mafia talks about methods of analysis. It's not of a scum mindset to really think about that kind of stuff. He later continues to bring it up in thread without actually elaborating which HF himself points out which loses him a couple of those points. Ultimately I'm right back where I started on him. Likely 3rd scum, especially given the sheeping of HF at the end of the day which was done in the most lick-his-boots way possible. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
You basically just made a post whining about meta and a post saying how good your ls read was and none of that talks about who is mafia in the slightest. All I know is that you think I am mafia for - no reasons - regardless of when I turn up it makes no difference to my alignment, I literally just did the same thing in the last game I played and it has nothing to do with meta or anything I was just busy so gloating means absolutely nothing. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On April 18 2015 07:36 Vivax wrote: Listen up, I talked about LS, I asked him about his shit. I didn't afk half of D1 only to come back at EoD to act like I have the super confidence about him. I reached two conclusions: - I don't trust you given the way you have played out this day. - I decided on my own that LS is not posting in the nervous mafia way he was in Guardians. BUT, he posts a lot of bs in my opinion. That doesn't make him mafia. I was successful in tone reading him and I will keep doing that. In summary, I want to lynch Koshi for what Artanis said, for afking, and on top of it I don't like the way he seems to play along with me which is something I'm not used to from him. He took sides with me in the Oats matter for example when as town it seems to be his life's task to tunnel me into oblivion. I have yet to witness the exception. I'd just like to say I fucking love this post. Absolutely love it and it's this post and one other that adds Vivax to my town list for the time being. No reason to think otherwise, even considering his desire to lynch Palmar at EoD (becuase anyone who has played with Palmar and/or Vivax should probably understand that desire). loafery While I did think the initial burst of activity when there was no need to have any activity considering the lurky state of the rest of town was towny, the fact that he/she/it afked the rest of the day completely while sheeping my vote onto HF just looks like absolute ass. I still don't udnerstand what this was referring to, who loafery thought was 'prominent' at the point in the thread. On April 17 2015 11:58 loafery wrote: No it means all the prominent players are scum On April 17 2015 12:37 loafery wrote: The ones u think should be posting who arent are scum Could be scum simply latching on to me since they're new and assumed I'm one of the better townies skillwise due to my activity (and I'm well aware I'm not). Downgraded to slightly scummy side of null. We'll see what the next day brings. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On April 18 2015 10:39 Holyflare wrote: So what was the point of that post? I said you defended ls based on absolutely nothing and were MORE than sarcastic when I politely asked you to give your reasons why he was town. Instead you just said I'm definitely even more confirmed mafia now that I've returned EVEN THOUGH YOU SAID THE CASE WAS GOOD???? You basically just made a post whining about meta and a post saying how good your ls read was and none of that talks about who is mafia in the slightest. All I know is that you think I am mafia for - no reasons - regardless of when I turn up it makes no difference to my alignment, I literally just did the same thing in the last game I played and it has nothing to do with meta or anything I was just busy so gloating means absolutely nothing. I didn't say the case was good, I said it was convincing, especially to the people who think meta is the be-all-end-all----namely fucking everybody. If you want me to post about you, fine. Here's my problem with you. You afk all day only to come back to steer the lynch off of yourself exactly to where you want it, and a player flips town. The method in which you did so was fairly admirable for the most part, except for the entire section where you call me scum and attempt to discredit everything I had done in thread thus far (along with GB in a vastly inferior way) and then don't bother to push me any further despite the fact that it logically makes way more sense to do so. If I'm scum you already have a few players on me, and considering the way I was defending LS it might be possible to learn a little something with my flip. If you're town. You never answered my question. Why did you push LS over me? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On April 18 2015 06:15 Holyflare wrote: I don't really understand what you're doing at all but it has nothing to do with LS' or your alignment whatsoever. Your defense is baseless and unless you can prove why it's wrong I'm going to continue pushing him. Just because you say he's town doesn't make him any alignment whatsoever. The "lynch him or lynch me" mentality is stupid seeing as I just posted a case on why I want to vote him so I'm just going to continue doing that. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On April 18 2015 10:53 Holyflare wrote: I don't lynch people for information I lynch people who i think are scummy and have convincing cases on. It didn't help at all that he just rage quit the thread and didn't converse with me in the slightest while afking his vote on me and making me the highest wagon/with artanis. Fair points, I'm simply more concerned with why you chose him over me to push at the time you did. I am well aware you wrote a hgue case on him and a little one on me, which means you essentially 'chose' him. | ||
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Holyflare
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WaveofShadow
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HF who is your top lynch right now? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On April 18 2015 10:56 Holyflare wrote: Like let's say for arguments sake that I'm town and I've been busy all day and I'm aggressive holyflare that likes getting his way and I come home and read the thread and want to give my thoughts/push my lynch. How do I go about what I did in any other way whatsoever? My case was pretty damn convincing to myself and had not really anything to do with meta in the slightest. The meta was just the back up to whatever it was that I was saying and pushed me over the edge AFTER I had already made the case and thought he was mafia. Yes, the first section of your case was considerably less meta-based even though there absolutely IS meta in it. Did you read what I wrote about LS though? I'm assuming none of that came across to you? | ||
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sicklucker
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WaveofShadow
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What do you think of my other reads? I should add I still think SL is town and upgraded Oats to null-maybe. | ||
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me and my lazy week lol i'll prob be playing today ^^
