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On March 20 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here are the things why you SHOULD remember what i have said in the thread:
(1) you literally claim you have read my posts
(2) my reads apparently align with yours
(3) you read me scum
all of those are reasons you SHOULD remember what i have said and at least try to figure out why i say what i do yet you claim the opposite.
Like Holy this looks EXACTLY like townRayn trying to solve the game. He's trying to break down someone's thought process to figure out if it makes sense and to him it doesn't. This is hard to emulate as mafia.
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On March 20 2015 21:36 Holyflare wrote:
##vote ve
you fell for my trap! view count was going up and nobody was posting anything so that means you intentionally lurking doing nothing, get rekt mafia ve!
BLAST! Your trap catches townies not doing shit too HF, just so you know.
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I just woke up and saw Eden's answer to my question and since he got something out of his thing with Superbia last night meant it wasn't pointless arguing. Holyflare did I tell you I can't figure out Slam after Carol? That why I asking about if I should sheep your thing on Slam because he so hard to read as both alignments in my eyes lol....
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On March 20 2015 21:38 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here are the things why you SHOULD remember what i have said in the thread:
(1) you literally claim you have read my posts
(2) my reads apparently align with yours
(3) you read me scum
all of those are reasons you SHOULD remember what i have said and at least try to figure out why i say what i do yet you claim the opposite. Like Holy this looks EXACTLY like townRayn trying to solve the game. He's trying to break down someone's thought process to figure out if it makes sense and to him it doesn't. This is hard to emulate as mafia.
it's not hard
and he's mafia
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sorry and he's mafia town!
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so let's ignore rayn for the time being and ignore artanis, who else do you think should be up there in terms of "wtf are they doing, mafia scummers!?
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On March 20 2015 21:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 21:38 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 20 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here are the things why you SHOULD remember what i have said in the thread:
(1) you literally claim you have read my posts
(2) my reads apparently align with yours
(3) you read me scum
all of those are reasons you SHOULD remember what i have said and at least try to figure out why i say what i do yet you claim the opposite. Like Holy this looks EXACTLY like townRayn trying to solve the game. He's trying to break down someone's thought process to figure out if it makes sense and to him it doesn't. This is hard to emulate as mafia. it's not hard and he's mafia
It IS hard. It's not hard to argue with someone or to make townie looking posts, but it's hard to FAKE trying to figure out what someone is saying and figure out if they're trying to pull a fast one on you. I'm not saying it's just a townie looking post, I'm saying it's a post that has something hard to do as mafia. You can't just say "It's not hard" when it is hard.
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On March 20 2015 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
so let's ignore rayn for the time being and ignore artanis, who else do you think should be up there in terms of "wtf are they doing, mafia scummers!?
Let's not ignore me, I still have absolutely no idea why VE thinks I'm mafia and he isn't engaging me, his top scumread. What's up with that bro?!
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On March 20 2015 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
so let's ignore rayn for the time being and ignore artanis, who else do you think should be up there in terms of "wtf are they doing, mafia scummers!?
I still like FF as lynch :X
Like, he's really really subdued this game, when it seems like he should be more spastically posty.
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On March 20 2015 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
so let's ignore rayn for the time being and ignore artanis, who else do you think should be up there in terms of "wtf are they doing, mafia scummers!? Let's not ignore me, I still have absolutely no idea why VE thinks I'm mafia and he isn't engaging me, his top scumread. What's up with that bro?!
Well that's your problem bro - I'm not asking you to vote for yourself obviously.
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On March 20 2015 21:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
so let's ignore rayn for the time being and ignore artanis, who else do you think should be up there in terms of "wtf are they doing, mafia scummers!? Let's not ignore me, I still have absolutely no idea why VE thinks I'm mafia and he isn't engaging me, his top scumread. What's up with that bro?! Well that's your problem bro - I'm not asking you to vote for yourself obviously.
Surely you're not 100% certain I'm mafia, so why aren't you actually trying to figure out my alignment with me?
If you are 100% certain I'm mafia, why aren't you trying to convince others to vote for me?
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why are you trying to stop him finding other mafia if you aren't mafia then artanis
touche
get rekt
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On March 20 2015 21:50 Holyflare wrote:
why are you trying to stop him finding other mafia if you aren't mafia then artanis
touche
get rekt
Damn, you got me, gg
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On March 20 2015 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 21:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 20 2015 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
so let's ignore rayn for the time being and ignore artanis, who else do you think should be up there in terms of "wtf are they doing, mafia scummers!? Let's not ignore me, I still have absolutely no idea why VE thinks I'm mafia and he isn't engaging me, his top scumread. What's up with that bro?! Well that's your problem bro - I'm not asking you to vote for yourself obviously. Surely you're not 100% certain I'm mafia, so why aren't you actually trying to figure out my alignment with me? If you are 100% certain I'm mafia, why aren't you trying to convince others to vote for me?
I'm not 100% certain that you're mafia, you're just who I'm most comfortable voting for right now. If it turns out that I like you most for lynch then I'll start trying to get people to lynch you. I'm here reading filters of other people right now, you included, and we'll just see or whatever. I don't need to ENGAGE you to figure out your alignment, in fact that will only hurt me bcause you're so good at "engaging" when you're mafia. I have the only good way to read you, actions, and so far your actions tell me you're mafia. Maybe I'll find out differently on readthrough, or maybe I'll find someone more scummy.
I guess I'm just wondering why you're so concerned about the single vote on you, and why my vote is on you while I am discussing other people with Holy.
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On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town: Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2015 11:50 Toadesstern wrote:Like everyone's talking about how I'm playing different than I used to last games... no shit I got killed on first cycle like 4 times in a row and lost 4 games in a row now. Last game in particular I feel like I lost because I was trolling too much and didn't get enough out in time which ended in people not lynching Sandroba when he was 100% mafia on my sheet. I needed to be a lot more serious in that game early on and we could have won  Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you. I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably) With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it. Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town? from JoaT: On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.
Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me. Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different? Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned. I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled. Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game. So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh. @Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why? @ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other?
Does nobody besides FF and me want to lynch LS for this post?
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On March 20 2015 21:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town: On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2015 11:50 Toadesstern wrote:Like everyone's talking about how I'm playing different than I used to last games... no shit I got killed on first cycle like 4 times in a row and lost 4 games in a row now. Last game in particular I feel like I lost because I was trolling too much and didn't get enough out in time which ended in people not lynching Sandroba when he was 100% mafia on my sheet. I needed to be a lot more serious in that game early on and we could have won Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you. I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably) With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it. Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town? from JoaT: On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.
Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me. Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different? Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned. I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled. Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game. So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh. @Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why? @ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other? Does nobody besides FF and me want to lynch LS for this post?
I want to lynch FF for other posts. Does that count?
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On March 20 2015 21:51 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 21:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 20 2015 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
so let's ignore rayn for the time being and ignore artanis, who else do you think should be up there in terms of "wtf are they doing, mafia scummers!? Let's not ignore me, I still have absolutely no idea why VE thinks I'm mafia and he isn't engaging me, his top scumread. What's up with that bro?! Well that's your problem bro - I'm not asking you to vote for yourself obviously. Surely you're not 100% certain I'm mafia, so why aren't you actually trying to figure out my alignment with me? If you are 100% certain I'm mafia, why aren't you trying to convince others to vote for me? I'm not 100% certain that you're mafia, you're just who I'm most comfortable voting for right now. If it turns out that I like you most for lynch then I'll start trying to get people to lynch you. I'm here reading filters of other people right now, you included, and we'll just see or whatever. I don't need to ENGAGE you to figure out your alignment, in fact that will only hurt me bcause you're so good at "engaging" when you're mafia. I have the only good way to read you, actions, and so far your actions tell me you're mafia. Maybe I'll find out differently on readthrough, or maybe I'll find someone more scummy. I guess I'm just wondering why you're so concerned about the single vote on you, and why my vote is on you while I am discussing other people with Holy.
Because you've never told me why you suspect me other than me having a nullread on you (which Toad had also and I'm sure many other people in the game did too, so it's an absolutely shit reason unless you think everyone nullreading you is scum, which would be even more laughable). Then you scumread me for backing off on you when I had found a better suspect. The main reason I still think you're probably town is because I don't think you'd play this way as scum, but it is a very antitown way of playing. If I'm right, convincing you not to vote the one person I know is 100% town is of paramount concern for me, as I'd know it's a wasted vote.
I think you also severely overestimate my average mafia game. I highly doubt I'd get anywhere near this quality of posting with Imperial still so fresh, and rolling mafia again shortly after in Student, buut that's something I know of myself.
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On March 20 2015 21:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 21:51 Vivax wrote:On March 19 2015 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:I'm back and saw a answer from Toad on my question regarding him and Palmar in Hammertime when they both were town: On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2015 12:00 Toadesstern wrote:On March 19 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2015 11:50 Toadesstern wrote:Like everyone's talking about how I'm playing different than I used to last games... no shit I got killed on first cycle like 4 times in a row and lost 4 games in a row now. Last game in particular I feel like I lost because I was trolling too much and didn't get enough out in time which ended in people not lynching Sandroba when he was 100% mafia on my sheet. I needed to be a lot more serious in that game early on and we could have won Ya you kinda got lynched because Palmars tunneling you that's the thing in Hammertime. Also I can understand a little bit on why you thought you need to be more serious after JOAT but still it just odd playing with a already serious you. I mean if I get mafiaread for being different or more serious than I played in my last couple games there's nothing I can and will say about that other than my occasional banter about how that's not alignment indicative at all unless someone points out how different means scummy... because there's nothing I can say about it. I am playing differently (probably) With that being said, if that's what it's like I'll just ignore everything in that direction from now on and just focus on getting my reads out a little bit earlier than last game and making sure I get them out properly explained. Got angry about Palmar pulling the same shit he did in Hammertime when he should know better and talked myself into a wolf... won't happen again and this is the last post about it. Ya true about Palmar should know better on that but you seemed to taken it more personally o.o Are you still offended by Palmar's thing on you in Hammertime when you both were town? from JoaT: On March 03 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Fear not guyses for I have yet again rolled neither mafia nor Ninja. Thus I will proceed to kill all those mafias and not be mislynched d1 despite being called fucking confirmed town 24-36hours into the game.
Let me check real quick if Palmar is in the game not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me. Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different? Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned. I don't a see a big tone difference on your entrance to this game compared to JOAT regarding Palmar and I wouldn't blame on you on that because as a Cohost in Hammertime I kinda felt bad and I shoulda warned him on his Kill Toad spam and I didn't if I recalled. Also rsoultin not wanting to give her read on me this early to Eden but I don't blame her because I rolled Mafia in JOAT when she was town and called me Town by meta and will have to bleed green this game. So I saw Palmar and Rayn going at each other and saw Artanis trying to stop it but I remember Artanis so townie in Imperial yet when he lynched Town!Palmar he basically looked pure Mafia (Scum if you prefer to use that term) so I might need to wait on reading him esp because he just rolled Mafia in Student VI which I was coaching the Cop and the Vet and the Cop caught him with a Cop check so ya I going to be careful reading him. Also he got a decent point about a chance that Palmar or Rayn are Mafia and the other town due to their interactions esp Palmar stuff early on about Toad and I not going to make the same mistake I did in Titanic and give a easy townread on Palmar Day 1. I also have yet to play with Mafia!Rayn so I might be a bit bias on him being town compared to Palmar so meh. @Artanis who is more likely to be Mafia between Palmar and Rayn and Why? @ExO Where you at on reads considering our past history with each other? Does nobody besides FF and me want to lynch LS for this post? I want to lynch FF for other posts. Does that count?
The thing that sticks out with FF is that he seems to have a direction in his posting which is unusual. Suppose that's what you mean when you say he's not spastically posting? Anyway that kinda dodged the question so it doesn't count. I see a nervous post from LS that summarizes some shit, is inconclusive, and doesn't just answer Toad's question, plus it ends with questions that don't seem genuinely interested since they lead to nowhere, given his next post is a gigantic list without scumreads.
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No, it has to do with you specifically null reading me. You've townread me for less posts before correctly, I've seen it. The quality of information and reads is similar or better, yet you're NULL reading me this game when in towngames in the past you've townread me for less.
It's pretty meta, but it is what it is. The best part? You going on and on about it MAKES it so that I have in-game reasons to actually push you for later! I wasn't going to be able to convince anyone with just my meta read, but with you being so concerned about it for no reason, people are SURELY going to notice and SURELY going to realize that you're mafia being shoved way out of your comfort zone. Thx Artanis!
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I don't want to lynch FF today, that's for sure. I don't think I want to lynch LS either though, he seemed quite relaxed when put under pressure and mafia LS was a nervous wreck in JOAT.
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