On November 30 2014 10:21 weikor wrote: I hope it doesnt fall into the trap of trying to make sense of episode 1-6. Sure they should stick to star wars that makes sense, but 1-3 kind of screwed that over anyway.
Id be totally fine with a 3 liner at the beginning of the movie
To our dedicated star wars fans. We wish to apologize for the mess of episodes 1-3, and will be disregarding some of the concepts the last movies introduced (e.g mitoclorians, naboo) for the sake of making a new, better and more enjoyable franchise. The team thanks you for your loyalty and hopes you will enjoy this new chapter in the star wars universe.
On November 30 2014 10:21 weikor wrote: I hope it doesnt fall into the trap of trying to make sense of episode 1-6. Sure they should stick to star wars that makes sense, but 1-3 kind of screwed that over anyway.
Id be totally fine with a 3 liner at the beginning of the movie
To our dedicated star wars fans. We wish to apologize for the mess of episodes 1-3, and will be disregarding some of the concepts the last movies introduced (e.g mitoclorians, naboo) for the sake of making a new, better and more enjoyable franchise. The team thanks you for your loyalty and hopes you will enjoy this new chapter in the star wars universe.
believe it or not, I actually like Jar Jar the way he is. Lucas was going for something different with Jar Jar, tapping into the mythological archetype of the wise fool. In ancient legends and stories (King Lear being a good example), there's a fool who tags along with the heroes, getting in the way and annoying everybody, but his innocence and good heart ultimately provide the heroes with some crucial insight or assistance that saves the day.
Jar Jar Binks is the wise fool. Yes, he's annoying. Supremely, ultimately annoying. But repeat after me: HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE. If everybody in the movie loved him and thought his wacky antics were adorable and precious, that would suck. But take note: they don't. Nobody likes Jar Jar. For Pete's sake, his own people banished him because he was so damn aggravating. Critics accuse Lucas of sticking Jar Jar in the movie purely for kiddie appeal, and yet the kid in the movie doesn't even like him. Anakin only bothers to speak to Jar Jar once, to warn him away from his podracer's energy binders, and steers clear of the Gungan the rest of the time. Only Qui-Gon seems to see any worth in Jar Jar's existence, and whatever it is, he keeps it to himself.
Ultimately, Jar Jar is directly responsible for setting in motion the entire third act of the movie. When all seems lost and dark, he inspires Queen Amidala to shed her dependence on the ineffectual bureaucracy of the Republic, and he gives her the courage to go back and fight for their home planet, on her own terms. He is the liaison who facilitates an alliance between the Gungans and the Naboo. He doesn't manage to lead his troops to victory over the battle droid army, but he does his best. Jar Jar the fool is indispensable to the plot, and a fine character. Okay, I could do without him saying "Ex-squeeze me," but nothing's perfect.
I actually loved Naboo. Their starfighters are my favourite ones, and I actually like Jar Jar too. But maybe that's because I hate conforming to popular opinion. Also, if the argument is that it's in for the 'kiddie' appeal, I might be a victim of that as I was a kiddie back when I watched those movies.
I don't really think there's a good reason for the hate towards ep. I-III, it just seems to be some kind of hatetrain originating in some elitist nerds a decade ago or so.
On November 29 2014 20:35 ZenithM wrote: I really don't understand the racial issues there. I guess people are pissed off that the guy doesn't look like Jango Fett, is that it? Or is it really about the guy being black? I don't see why he wouldn't be black if we assume that those aren't clones anymore, there are already several cool black characters in Star Wars (Lando and Mace Windu for example).
Plus, he could actually be disguising himself like Luke and Han did, I really don't see the problem...
Also, for those who are disappointed in the teaser, keep in mind that, well, it's a teaser, not a trailer. It's really meant to not say a whole lot and just get your mouth watering. It certainly did for me, consider me hyped ;D
It's been mentioned before that we're not discussing racial issues but organization of Empire's military body. Jeez, what's with you people?
Actually, the Empire in the EU was portrayed as racist and speciesist (it was subtler in the post-series stuff but it was really beaten into the narrative of The Old Republic stories). Only white humans were good enough, everyone else slightly less so. That's why Grand Admiral Thrawn was such a cool character, he overcame the anti-alien stigma to rise to the height of the Imperial navy because he was just THAT good.
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote: Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?
it's not a trailer, it's a teaser
lol whatever it is (you can tease with a trailer, too, right?), they can't possibly be serious with it.
Because of the fancy light saber? Or do you have more reasons? Like the black guy? And it does make a difference whether it's a teaser or a trailer. A teaser isn't supposed to say anything, it's supposed to tease.
On November 29 2014 20:35 ZenithM wrote: I really don't understand the racial issues there. I guess people are pissed off that the guy doesn't look like Jango Fett, is that it? Or is it really about the guy being black? I don't see why he wouldn't be black if we assume that those aren't clones anymore, there are already several cool black characters in Star Wars (Lando and Mace Windu for example).
Plus, he could actually be disguising himself like Luke and Han did, I really don't see the problem...
Also, for those who are disappointed in the teaser, keep in mind that, well, it's a teaser, not a trailer. It's really meant to not say a whole lot and just get your mouth watering. It certainly did for me, consider me hyped ;D
It's been mentioned before that we're not discussing racial issues but organization of Empire's military body. Jeez, what's with you people?
Well, maybe you're not, but half of the Internet is.
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote: Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?
it's not a trailer, it's a teaser
lol whatever it is (you can tease with a trailer, too, right?), they can't possibly be serious with it.
Because of the fancy light saber? Or do you have more reasons? Like the black guy? And it does make a difference whether it's a teaser or a trailer. A teaser isn't supposed to say anything, it's supposed to tease.
Pretty much everything. The black guy in the beginning, the rolling druid, the light saber and in general all the lines the narrator says and the way how he says it. They are all very poor and cheesy lines but the narrator speaks them as they were not just super serious but exeggerates them with his voice by quite a bit. Like in a trash film or a parody. "The daaaark side" DRAMATIC PAUSE "aand...the light". "There has been an awakening...have you felt it?" dramatic music wuuush black guy appears heavy breathing. I almost bursted out laughing multiple times. It really felt like a fan made parody.
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote: Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?
it's not a trailer, it's a teaser
lol whatever it is (you can tease with a trailer, too, right?), they can't possibly be serious with it.
Because of the fancy light saber? Or do you have more reasons? Like the black guy? And it does make a difference whether it's a teaser or a trailer. A teaser isn't supposed to say anything, it's supposed to tease.
Pretty much everything. The black guy in the beginning, the rolling druid, the light saber and in general all the lines the narrator says and the way how he says it. They are all very poor and cheesy lines but the narrator speaks them as they were not just super serious but exeggerates them with his voice by quite a bit. Like in a trash film or a parody. "The daaaark side" DRAMATIC PAUSE "aand...the light". "There has been an awakening...have you felt it?" dramatic music wuuush black guy appears heavy breathing. I almost bursted out laughing multiple times. It really felt like a fan made parody.
While I don't quite get the intense comedic value of a black man suddenly appearing on screen, if there is one thing that I agree on with everyone criticizing the trailer, it's the narrator. It indeed sounds like a parody ;D
On December 01 2014 04:10 Miragee wrote: Just watched the trailer? Is it a parody? It can't be anything else right?
it's not a trailer, it's a teaser
lol whatever it is (you can tease with a trailer, too, right?), they can't possibly be serious with it.
Because of the fancy light saber? Or do you have more reasons? Like the black guy? And it does make a difference whether it's a teaser or a trailer. A teaser isn't supposed to say anything, it's supposed to tease.
Pretty much everything. The black guy in the beginning, the rolling druid, the light saber and in general all the lines the narrator says and the way how he says it. They are all very poor and cheesy lines but the narrator speaks them as they were not just super serious but exeggerates them with his voice by quite a bit. Like in a trash film or a parody. "The daaaark side" DRAMATIC PAUSE "aand...the light". "There has been an awakening...have you felt it?" dramatic music wuuush black guy appears heavy breathing. I almost bursted out laughing multiple times. It really felt like a fan made parody.
While I don't quite get the intense comedic value of a black man suddenly appearing on screen, if there is one thing that I agree on with everyone criticizing the trailer, it's the narrator. It indeed sounds like a parody ;D
It's not the fact that the black guy appears on screen but the way he does in conjunction with the narrator.
On December 01 2014 03:56 TokO wrote: I actually loved Naboo. Their starfighters are my favourite ones, and I actually like Jar Jar too. But maybe that's because I hate conforming to popular opinion. Also, if the argument is that it's in for the 'kiddie' appeal, I might be a victim of that as I was a kiddie back when I watched those movies.
I don't really think there's a good reason for the hate towards ep. I-III, it just seems to be some kind of hatetrain originating in some elitist nerds a decade ago or so.
People who saw the originals first tend to prefer the originals. I saw the prequels first and I prefer them, although I love all six movies, and I'd buy Episode VII even if it was JJ Abrams' shit in a DVD case. It's all just a matter of preference.