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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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liancourt
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On November 20 2014 19:01 The_Templar wrote: Those are completely different. I am not active, because you said I'm not active, so I won't bother to answer your post now. Maybe if you remind me later I will ur reacting like a mafia who's been caught red handed u arent reacting to pressure very well = mafia u are fucking off and ignoring what players say = mafia temp[lar = mafia | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:00 VisceraEyes wrote: I didn't exaggerate my read Holyflare, I still think he's mafia for it. I was just exaggerating how certain I am of it - I'm NOT certain of it, it's just my read. And further, I'm not saying you're mafia FOR defending Hopeless. My reasoning is clear and explicit. I'm saying your mafia for defending Hopeless FOR BAD REASON (saying that something that IS objectively scummy is NOT objectively scummy) AT A WEIRD TIME (right after you acquired a scumread of him yourself, in response to MY pressure of him) WHILE SCUMREADING HIM! Holyflare Jesus Christ, I never have to spell shit out for you multiple times like this. Maybe you are town. :/ Feigning contribution is scummy yes, but nowhere did he do that at the time you had said he had done that. The start of the game does not count towards feigning contribution when all he's done is comment on a snowflake in the first hour of the game. That doesn't make anyone mafia ever and was a bs EXAGGERATED read that I do not and will not ever agree on. People have done the exact same thing as town in many many many many many more games so it's not OBJECTIVELY scummy at all, it's entirely subjective because it's what you think which goes against the actual facts. There's quite a difference between scum reading someone for what you said and scum reading him for something entirely different. He might not end up being scum and then I can look back and remember that your pressure was far more exacerbated than it should have been in that situation. Telling you that your initial logic for scum reading him was bad has nothing to do with him looking scummy for his reaction. It's an observation. | ||
liancourt
1563 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:03 ritoky wrote: why is there no reason to vote hopeless? do you not like my or VE's read on him? LOL what is there to read stop trying to over analyze everything LOL analyze me LOL | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:07 liancourt wrote: LOL what is there to read stop trying to over analyze everything LOL analyze me LOL You know it's possible to catch mafia day 1 because of analysing, you've been in several games where mafia has been lynched day 1 because of actual analysis. So why are you telling people to stop analysing when it only helps to find mafia? You are being very very strange. | ||
liancourt
1563 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm going to bed, liancourt seems scummy to me. I'd unvote ve but im on my phone. fucks off and gives no reason why i'm scummy just flinging shit around = mafia | ||
liancourt
1563 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:08 Holyflare wrote: You know it's possible to catch mafia day 1 because of analysing, you've been in several games where mafia has been lynched day 1 because of actual analysis. So why are you telling people to stop analysing when it only helps to find mafia? You are being very very strange. stop trying to lynch hopeless he hasn't done anything | ||
Holyflare
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liancourt
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does this make me mafia? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:10 liancourt wrote: i am hard defending hopeless who looks scummy as fuck does this make me mafia? i thought there was no reason to vote hopeless, now he looks scummy as fuck? i already want to lynch you cuz you claimed mafia, you're making me think that desire isn't unfounded. and if you think i can't find mafia day 1 thru analysis, you have a very short memory. and maybe even mammary. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 20 2014 18:51 ritoky wrote: I am meish because I am me. rayn said you're weird. it's true, you're weird. why? cuz you're not angry at all. a couple posts ago you seemed slightly agitated. but the super town HF calls people bad and idiots and tells everyone to sheep him and claims god tier. you're muted, so you're weird. but that said, rayn's subsequent post responding to my criticism and detailing who is town is the stuff i can put in my coffee in the morning. as for me being me, i find like find odd and disjointed interactions day 1 and finding scum that way, you saw me behind the scenes last game. hence why i don't like hopeless. that read should not surprise you in the slightest. rayn said I was weird after 1 post so this doesn't make sense in the slightest On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE is town. Slam is town. We can kill Templar because of that mafia post. ritoky i am the king of vague statements. this was also his only response to your criticism and details absolutely nothing so it's weird that the person who has said almost nothing whatsoever is your town read, especially when you pick and choose some of his posts to fit into a later timeline | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote: Feigning contribution is scummy yes, but nowhere did he do that at the time you had said he had done that. The start of the game does not count towards feigning contribution when all he's done is comment on a snowflake in the first hour of the game. That doesn't make anyone mafia ever and was a bs EXAGGERATED read that I do not and will not ever agree on. People have done the exact same thing as town in many many many many many more games so it's not OBJECTIVELY scummy at all, it's entirely subjective because it's what you think which goes against the actual facts. There's quite a difference between scum reading someone for what you said and scum reading him for something entirely different. He might not end up being scum and then I can look back and remember that your pressure was far more exacerbated than it should have been in that situation. Telling you that your initial logic for scum reading him was bad has nothing to do with him looking scummy for his reaction. It's an observation. Well bolded is just your opinion just like my opinion is that Hopeless' early posting is scummy. I don't think the read is exaggerated at all, I think the posts I pointed out CLEARLY illustrate Hopeless trying to blend in. But I guess you're right, that's my opinion. But the italicized is obviously an exaggeration because no one has ever made the post Hopeless made in response to Chez because Hopeless has never made that post in any other game in response to Chez. People have done SIMILAR things, but no one has done "the exact same" thing ever. See how easy that is to just switch on? Like, it doesn't matter if you're exaggerating or not, you're just making a point right? My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare. That's why I say you're repeatedly trying to discredit me...because you're saying things that are blatantly untrue in an attempt to make me look bad - WHILE I find someone who YOU find suspicious...suspicious. Why? Why are you doing that? | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:14 Holyflare wrote: rayn said I was weird after 1 post so this doesn't make sense in the slightest this was also his only response to your criticism and details absolutely nothing so it's weird that the person who has said almost nothing whatsoever is your town read, especially when you pick and choose some of his posts to fit into a later timeline my read of weirdness came later, already told you why. i also find it weird that almost immediately after i said my read your salt level increased. deciding whether i feel it was forced or not. yup, it is a good response to my criticism, i approve of it. it is a response i would make, and i am town. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Well bolded is just your opinion just like my opinion is that Hopeless' early posting is scummy. I don't think the read is exaggerated at all, I think the posts I pointed out CLEARLY illustrate Hopeless trying to blend in. But I guess you're right, that's my opinion. But the italicized is obviously an exaggeration because no one has ever made the post Hopeless made in response to Chez because Hopeless has never made that post in any other game in response to Chez. People have done SIMILAR things, but no one has done "the exact same" thing ever. See how easy that is to just switch on? Like, it doesn't matter if you're exaggerating or not, you're just making a point right? My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare. That's why I say you're repeatedly trying to discredit me...because you're saying things that are blatantly untrue in an attempt to make me look bad - WHILE I find someone who YOU find suspicious...suspicious. Why? Why are you doing that? your read is crap VE. because if you actually believe your read then you should have the same one on me; yet i didn't even make the reads post of yours. your read is predicated on HF not finding hopeless scummy for the reasons you pointed out early, but finding him scummy for his reaction to being called out. which is almost the exact same response i had. remember where i was calling you out until hopeless reacted to you and then i rescinded on you cuz i found his post crap? that was the basis or your original read on HF, so it should also be on me. the fact that you don't evenly apply it means you're mafia or you're fabricating to push your OGI feelings. | ||
sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up. VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says. I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now. liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:22 ritoky wrote: your read is crap VE. because if you actually believe your read then you should have the same one on me; yet i didn't even make the reads post of yours. your read is predicated on HF not finding hopeless scummy for the reasons you pointed out early, but finding him scummy for his reaction to being called out. which is almost the exact same response i had. remember where i was calling you out until hopeless reacted to you and then i rescinded on you cuz i found his post crap? that was the basis or your original read on HF, so it should also be on me. the fact that you don't evenly apply it means you're mafia or you're fabricating to push your OGI feelings. I don't even know what you just said here. Which read are you even referring to? My read of Holyflare? So you think Holyflare is town then I guess? Cool. I disagree. I don't have to think you're the same alignment because you're different players and Holyflare is a MUCH better player than you are. No offense intended. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Well bolded is just your opinion just like my opinion is that Hopeless' early posting is scummy. I don't think the read is exaggerated at all, I think the posts I pointed out CLEARLY illustrate Hopeless trying to blend in. But I guess you're right, that's my opinion. But the italicized is obviously an exaggeration because no one has ever made the post Hopeless made in response to Chez because Hopeless has never made that post in any other game in response to Chez. People have done SIMILAR things, but no one has done "the exact same" thing ever. See how easy that is to just switch on? Like, it doesn't matter if you're exaggerating or not, you're just making a point right? My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare. That's why I say you're repeatedly trying to discredit me...because you're saying things that are blatantly untrue in an attempt to make me look bad - WHILE I find someone who YOU find suspicious...suspicious. Why? Why are you doing that? he's made posts like that in games before!? I don't know what you're even arguing about anymore because it's seemingly just crazy semantics where you want to prove that your opinion is the best opinion he's made posts like that before as town other townies have made posts like that before as town you say only scum make posts like that to blend in he reacts poorly you start to pile things onto him which also don't make him scummy i say your first part is wrong and your qt crap is wrong and it's scummy that you're so absolute about this read but his reaction is pretty scummy all I've done is negate the extreme pressure you are putting on him and your misleading of the thread by correcting you and showing the thread the only points that could possibly make him mafia My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare. I disagree with the whole premise. The logic is not sound as I have explained that townies and hopeless as a towny have made posts like that before. It's silly that you try and turn it into the EXACT wording he uses and says it makes him different when it doesn't at all. | ||
ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On November 20 2014 19:25 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't even know what you just said here. Which read are you even referring to? My read of Holyflare? So you think Holyflare is town then I guess? Cool. I disagree. I don't have to think you're the same alignment because you're different players and Holyflare is a MUCH better player than you are. No offense intended. I am saying that your initial holyflare is scum read was: VE thinks hopeless is scum for early posts and reactions. HF thinks hopeless is scum only for the reactions. VE thinks HF is scummy for that. I had literally the exact same process and even argued it with you, but you didn't apply the scum read to me. I am saying that you're not applying your criteria for someone being scum evenly, which is suspect. capital much is a bit much, i will accept lower-case much. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Holyflare
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