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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 20 2014 10:32 GMT
#321
On November 20 2014 19:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:22 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
I don't understand how you can call someone mafia for defending someone WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU EXAGGERATED EVERYTHING TO PRESSURE HIM. looooooooooool

I didn't exaggerate my read Holyflare, I still think he's mafia for it. I was just exaggerating how certain I am of it - I'm NOT certain of it, it's just my read.

And further, I'm not saying you're mafia FOR defending Hopeless. My reasoning is clear and explicit. I'm saying your mafia for defending Hopeless FOR BAD REASON (saying that something that IS objectively scummy is NOT objectively scummy) AT A WEIRD TIME (right after you acquired a scumread of him yourself, in response to MY pressure of him) WHILE SCUMREADING HIM!

Holyflare Jesus Christ, I never have to spell shit out for you multiple times like this. Maybe you are town. :/


Feigning contribution is scummy yes, but nowhere did he do that at the time you had said he had done that. The start of the game does not count towards feigning contribution when all he's done is comment on a snowflake in the first hour of the game. That doesn't make anyone mafia ever and was a bs EXAGGERATED read that I do not and will not ever agree on. People have done the exact same thing as town in many many many many many more games so it's not OBJECTIVELY scummy at all, it's entirely subjective because it's what you think which goes against the actual facts.

There's quite a difference between scum reading someone for what you said and scum reading him for something entirely different. He might not end up being scum and then I can look back and remember that your pressure was far more exacerbated than it should have been in that situation. Telling you that your initial logic for scum reading him was bad has nothing to do with him looking scummy for his reaction. It's an observation.

Well bolded is just your opinion just like my opinion is that Hopeless' early posting is scummy. I don't think the read is exaggerated at all, I think the posts I pointed out CLEARLY illustrate Hopeless trying to blend in. But I guess you're right, that's my opinion.

But the italicized is obviously an exaggeration because no one has ever made the post Hopeless made in response to Chez because Hopeless has never made that post in any other game in response to Chez. People have done SIMILAR things, but no one has done "the exact same" thing ever. See how easy that is to just switch on? Like, it doesn't matter if you're exaggerating or not, you're just making a point right?

My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare. That's why I say you're repeatedly trying to discredit me...because you're saying things that are blatantly untrue in an attempt to make me look bad - WHILE I find someone who YOU find suspicious...suspicious. Why? Why are you doing that?


your read is crap VE. because if you actually believe your read then you should have the same one on me; yet i didn't even make the reads post of yours.

your read is predicated on HF not finding hopeless scummy for the reasons you pointed out early, but finding him scummy for his reaction to being called out. which is almost the exact same response i had. remember where i was calling you out until hopeless reacted to you and then i rescinded on you cuz i found his post crap? that was the basis or your original read on HF, so it should also be on me. the fact that you don't evenly apply it means you're mafia or you're fabricating to push your OGI feelings.

I don't even know what you just said here. Which read are you even referring to? My read of Holyflare? So you think Holyflare is town then I guess? Cool. I disagree.

I don't have to think you're the same alignment because you're different players and Holyflare is a MUCH better player than you are. No offense intended.


I am saying that your initial holyflare is scum read was:
VE thinks hopeless is scum for early posts and reactions.
HF thinks hopeless is scum only for the reactions.
VE thinks HF is scummy for that.

I had literally the exact same process and even argued it with you, but you didn't apply the scum read to me. I am saying that you're not applying your criteria for someone being scum evenly, which is suspect.

capital much is a bit much, i will accept lower-case much.

I did though, for a second. Remember back when I asked you if you thought I was mafia and you dodged the question? That happened man. But the way you backed off it after Hopeless' reaction made me lean town on you, where HF deigned to continue to call me scummy for it. See the difference?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 20 2014 10:32 GMT
#322
Anyway for real this time. Peace.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 10:39 GMT
#323
On November 20 2014 19:13 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:10 liancourt wrote:
i am hard defending hopeless who looks scummy as fuck

does this make me mafia?



i thought there was no reason to vote hopeless, now he looks scummy as fuck?

i already want to lynch you cuz you claimed mafia, you're making me think that desire isn't unfounded.

and if you think i can't find mafia day 1 thru analysis, you have a very short memory. and maybe even mammary.


put ur money where u mouth is

i quivering in my boots
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 10:40 GMT
#324
On November 20 2014 19:22 sicklucker wrote:


So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up.

VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says.

I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now.

liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him.

Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player.

I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 10:41 GMT
#325
On November 20 2014 19:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:28 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:22 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
I don't understand how you can call someone mafia for defending someone WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU EXAGGERATED EVERYTHING TO PRESSURE HIM. looooooooooool

I didn't exaggerate my read Holyflare, I still think he's mafia for it. I was just exaggerating how certain I am of it - I'm NOT certain of it, it's just my read.

And further, I'm not saying you're mafia FOR defending Hopeless. My reasoning is clear and explicit. I'm saying your mafia for defending Hopeless FOR BAD REASON (saying that something that IS objectively scummy is NOT objectively scummy) AT A WEIRD TIME (right after you acquired a scumread of him yourself, in response to MY pressure of him) WHILE SCUMREADING HIM!

Holyflare Jesus Christ, I never have to spell shit out for you multiple times like this. Maybe you are town. :/


Feigning contribution is scummy yes, but nowhere did he do that at the time you had said he had done that. The start of the game does not count towards feigning contribution when all he's done is comment on a snowflake in the first hour of the game. That doesn't make anyone mafia ever and was a bs EXAGGERATED read that I do not and will not ever agree on. People have done the exact same thing as town in many many many many many more games so it's not OBJECTIVELY scummy at all, it's entirely subjective because it's what you think which goes against the actual facts.

There's quite a difference between scum reading someone for what you said and scum reading him for something entirely different. He might not end up being scum and then I can look back and remember that your pressure was far more exacerbated than it should have been in that situation. Telling you that your initial logic for scum reading him was bad has nothing to do with him looking scummy for his reaction. It's an observation.

Well bolded is just your opinion just like my opinion is that Hopeless' early posting is scummy. I don't think the read is exaggerated at all, I think the posts I pointed out CLEARLY illustrate Hopeless trying to blend in. But I guess you're right, that's my opinion.

But the italicized is obviously an exaggeration because no one has ever made the post Hopeless made in response to Chez because Hopeless has never made that post in any other game in response to Chez. People have done SIMILAR things, but no one has done "the exact same" thing ever. See how easy that is to just switch on? Like, it doesn't matter if you're exaggerating or not, you're just making a point right?

My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare. That's why I say you're repeatedly trying to discredit me...because you're saying things that are blatantly untrue in an attempt to make me look bad - WHILE I find someone who YOU find suspicious...suspicious. Why? Why are you doing that?


your read is crap VE. because if you actually believe your read then you should have the same one on me; yet i didn't even make the reads post of yours.

your read is predicated on HF not finding hopeless scummy for the reasons you pointed out early, but finding him scummy for his reaction to being called out. which is almost the exact same response i had. remember where i was calling you out until hopeless reacted to you and then i rescinded on you cuz i found his post crap? that was the basis or your original read on HF, so it should also be on me. the fact that you don't evenly apply it means you're mafia or you're fabricating to push your OGI feelings.

I don't even know what you just said here. Which read are you even referring to? My read of Holyflare? So you think Holyflare is town then I guess? Cool. I disagree.

I don't have to think you're the same alignment because you're different players and Holyflare is a MUCH better player than you are. No offense intended.


I am saying that your initial holyflare is scum read was:
VE thinks hopeless is scum for early posts and reactions.
HF thinks hopeless is scum only for the reactions.
VE thinks HF is scummy for that.

I had literally the exact same process and even argued it with you, but you didn't apply the scum read to me. I am saying that you're not applying your criteria for someone being scum evenly, which is suspect.

capital much is a bit much, i will accept lower-case much.

I did though, for a second. Remember back when I asked you if you thought I was mafia and you dodged the question? That happened man. But the way you backed off it after Hopeless' reaction made me lean town on you, where HF deigned to continue to call me scummy for it. See the difference?

I suppose that is reasonable.
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TL+ Member
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 10:41 GMT
#326
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 10:41 GMT
#327
On November 20 2014 19:39 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:13 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:10 liancourt wrote:
i am hard defending hopeless who looks scummy as fuck

does this make me mafia?



i thought there was no reason to vote hopeless, now he looks scummy as fuck?

i already want to lynch you cuz you claimed mafia, you're making me think that desire isn't unfounded.

and if you think i can't find mafia day 1 thru analysis, you have a very short memory. and maybe even mammary.


put ur money where u mouth is

i quivering in my boots


All you are doing is making the thread a worse place by antagonising people intentionally. Please stop or just claim mafia.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 10:42 GMT
#328
On November 20 2014 19:41 liancourt wrote:
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I can't read this
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TL+ Member
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 10:43 GMT
#329
On November 20 2014 19:40 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:22 sicklucker wrote:


So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up.

VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says.

I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now.

liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him.

Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player.

I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant.


put ur vote where ur mouth is

stop beating around the bush
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 10:44 GMT
#330
On November 20 2014 19:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:39 liancourt wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:13 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:10 liancourt wrote:
i am hard defending hopeless who looks scummy as fuck

does this make me mafia?



i thought there was no reason to vote hopeless, now he looks scummy as fuck?

i already want to lynch you cuz you claimed mafia, you're making me think that desire isn't unfounded.

and if you think i can't find mafia day 1 thru analysis, you have a very short memory. and maybe even mammary.


put ur money where u mouth is

i quivering in my boots


All you are doing is making the thread a worse place by antagonising people intentionally. Please stop or just claim mafia.


i thought i just claimed mafia in my first post
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 10:44 GMT
#331
On November 20 2014 19:43 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:40 The_Templar wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:22 sicklucker wrote:


So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up.

VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says.

I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now.

liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him.

Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player.

I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant.


put ur vote where ur mouth is

stop beating around the bush

I'm busy right now working on the LR for the Hot6ix cup. I'll vote later
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 10:46 GMT
#332
i'm playing the be the biggest dick in the thread so that everyone votes me meta

is it working guys?

has my douche persona reached ur darling hearts?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 10:50 GMT
#333
On November 20 2014 19:44 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:43 liancourt wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:40 The_Templar wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:22 sicklucker wrote:


So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up.

VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says.

I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now.

liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him.

Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player.

I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant.


put ur vote where ur mouth is

stop beating around the bush

I'm busy right now working on the LR for the Hot6ix cup. I'll vote later


all words with no back up

ur afraid to vote me first because u know i'm town arent u

mafia want to bandwagon their votes and u want to bandwagon me when there are a few votes on me.

My lynch hasn't gotten traction yet and ur making excuses to postpone ur voting so u dont look suspicious when u vote me

Everyone is shitting themselves because they really have no fucking idea what the fuck I'm doing and u are shitting bricks


sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 20 2014 10:50 GMT
#334
On November 20 2014 19:40 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:22 sicklucker wrote:


So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up.

VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says.

I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now.

liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him.

Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player.

I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant.


No let me clarify I said your post means nothing to me, as in I dont see it making you town or scum. Thats why I said both rayn and you were null for me. Im just curious what rayn has to say
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2014 10:53 GMT
#335
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you're the special kind aren't you?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 10:58 GMT
#336
u dont even know whats so scummy about me

u just dont understand why i'm doing this so u vote me lol

no wait...ur voting me because i piggy backed on someone calling u salty

stop being salty and play the game

The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 10:58 GMT
#337
On November 20 2014 19:50 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:40 The_Templar wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:22 sicklucker wrote:


So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up.

VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says.

I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now.

liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him.

Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player.

I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant.


No let me clarify I said your post means nothing to me, as in I dont see it making you town or scum. Thats why I said both rayn and you were null for me. Im just curious what rayn has to say

I'm saying Rayn already saw my post and said I was mafia based on it. Then he started posting everything based on my being mafia.
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 20 2014 11:08 GMT
#338
Ya im not giving rayn a walk on it either. Im saying whatever he says is going to be interesting one way or the other. He promised an explination.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 20 2014 11:49 GMT
#339
On November 20 2014 19:58 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:50 sicklucker wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:40 The_Templar wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:22 sicklucker wrote:


So I think people have jumped on a little quickly at 5am 3 hours into the game for me but ll try to keep up.

VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says.

I didnt think much of templars post but I cant wait to hear what rayn has to say about it because I think hes a pretty good town player, their both null for me now.

liancourt is scummy as hell. But im not sure I would ever come into the game as any alignment make my first post saying I havent read the thread then make a second post voting someone. So im not totally sure what this means is he usually like this?. He even said hes not going to read the thread. But the only game of mafia I ever played, the mafias were super obvious so im in the mindset of guilty untill proven innocent with him.

Rayn confirmed that I am mafia based on that one post because he is such a good town player.

I rarely see games where a town will act like liancourt is right now, especially on day 1. Will he really try to contribute to the discussion at all? He doesn't even seem to have a reason for doing this, but he is OK with calling me out for being mafia based on inactivity when I'm trying my best to ask questions that are somewhat relevant.


No let me clarify I said your post means nothing to me, as in I dont see it making you town or scum. Thats why I said both rayn and you were null for me. Im just curious what rayn has to say

I'm saying Rayn already saw my post and said I was mafia based on it. Then he started posting everything based on my being mafia.

So wrong.
table for two on a tv tray
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 11:50 GMT
#340
On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town. Slam is town.
We can kill Templar because of that mafia post.

ritoky i am the king of vague statements.

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