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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2014 09:51 GMT
#281
I also drew an alian isolation picture because I was bored

[image loading]

also

[image loading]
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2014 09:51 GMT
#282
On November 20 2014 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
You're so very passive and meagerly pointing out "things", you also say rayn is your town read right now but the only thing you've even commented on in regards to rayn is:

Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 16:22 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 16:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare is weird.


oh how vague of you.

[image loading]


You're also calling out VE for fabricating things but rayn is defending VE's mindset so that read is not congruent with what you've been saying. You also seem extremely flippant in regards to the VE/hopeless interaction earlier.

You're just not ritokyish.





I am meish because I am me.

rayn said you're weird. it's true, you're weird. why? cuz you're not angry at all. a couple posts ago you seemed slightly agitated. but the super town HF calls people bad and idiots and tells everyone to sheep him and claims god tier. you're muted, so you're weird.

but that said, rayn's subsequent post responding to my criticism and detailing who is town is the stuff i can put in my coffee in the morning.

as for me being me, i find like find odd and disjointed interactions day 1 and finding scum that way, you saw me behind the scenes last game. hence why i don't like hopeless. that read should not surprise you in the slightest.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2014 09:51 GMT
#283
god i can't even spell alien
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 09:51 GMT
#284
On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
[image loading]


really wtf is with the votes

Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 09:52 GMT
#285
stop voting for bloody mafai i'm telling you to bus HF like we had that chat in the quicktopic goddamn it.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2014 09:52 GMT
#286
find like find, top quality english by me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2014 09:53 GMT
#287
I don't think i'm muted in the slightest rofl
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 20 2014 09:53 GMT
#288
Yeah this has been pretty productive.

In summary:

I think Hopeless is mafia based on interactions/reaction.

I think Holyflare is mafia based on him defending Hopeless at a weird time (right after he reacts poorly to my pressure) for a weird reason (apparently feigning contribution to appear contributory is NOT scummy?), and under weird circumstances (he agrees that the reaction to his only other scumread is scummy). On top of everything else, he just keeps trying to discredit everything I do and say as senseless when I've been very clear about everything I've done this game.

I think Chez is town because he drew a very cool picture of me. Also he pointed out Hopeless and I agreed with him.

Rayn will explain his thoughts and then I'll give my read on rayn.

I have no idea what lian is doing. But he's voting for HF so we can be friends for now.

Templar's post is bad, but I don't think it makes him mafia. It's an awful big post and a lot of effort for mafia to go to. IF he's mafia then why does he make that post? Like, I'm not the lynch today in any world, ever. If he wants to fight me about that fine - but why does he do that as mafia?

Yes I've exaggerated a bit about how sure I am of my reads, but the reasoning is in the thread - if you disagree with it fine, just say why.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#289
On November 20 2014 18:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think i'm muted in the slightest rofl


you've only insulted 1 person so far, that's muted for you.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#290
On November 20 2014 16:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 16:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:56 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:52 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:49 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:36 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
[quote]
I'm not a hypocrite. There's a very STARK difference between what I'm accusing Hopeless of, making contentless posts to appear contributory, and what I'm doing, which is making a read on someone based on my observation of their play.

There's literally nothing mafia about what I've done in the thread so far, you're either butthurt about the last game or you're mafia. I'll accept either one, but I'm voting for Hopeless because he claimed mafia first.


claims town -> hey guys this is my mafia meta -> does exactly what he says his mafia meta is.

you can believe your read all you want, but seems more like you just waiting to take a shot at one of the early posters trying to get a cheap "gotcha" moment. whether that's from a town mindset or a mafia mindset at this point i am unsure, but i think as of now it leans more scummy to me. certainly more than anything anyone else has posted. you shouldn't bring up last game cuz then i will have to dig up your reads and we will see how little we should believe this read of yours.

This is LITERALLY what you just did to me. I didn't "gotcha" anything about Hopeless, he did some things, and I explained why I thought they made him mafia. I didn't "catch" him doing anything. You're the one who is saying I'm mafia for doing this, and YOU are doing this. What does that make you ritoky?


and i think your description of how you formulated a read on hopeless is the exact same process as to how i formed a read on you. doesn't really matter now though, i am less skeptical of you just making crap up after hopeless overreacted.

Why do you say I overreacted?


On November 20 2014 15:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 20 2014 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well there's a vote for you and a link to your filter. That's case enough for me, for reasons I provided. If you WANT to, I GUESS you could answer MY points.

What value is there in "deciphering" chez's snowflake or figuring out what the blue thing is on Chez' first picture?
I wanted to know what the painting was in the first one, and then wondered wtf the snowflake was about.
On November 20 2014 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Is that going to help you get a read on Chez?
Not really.
On November 20 2014 15:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think it's more likely that you just wanted to appear contributory. You even throw in a "we" there talking about the special snowflake, implying that you're a part of town.
"Implying?" What the fuck is this VE, you have no grounds to call me scum and yet already you're turning confirmation bias bullshit.


bolded part is a massive overreaction to someone calling you scum for a shaky reason at best 1 hour in. to me overreactions imply a person has something to hide.

He took an already shaky premise and twisted the word "we" into a scumread. That is fucking ludicrous and I will not stand for it.


then advance the game in a more positive direction rather than just sitting there whining about it and being defensive?

that falls in the OMGUS VE category.

But you don't think I'm mafia Hopeless, and if you do that PROVES you're mafia. Because you're a good player and you know that this is how I play as town. As mafia I'm totally different, I lurk hard, and I come in with big posts and then play defense. That's my style, and that's how I win. OR lose.



what kind of logic is that lol

i think ur mafia, so i must be mafia too lmao
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#291
I don't understand how you can call someone mafia for defending someone WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU EXAGGERATED EVERYTHING TO PRESSURE HIM. looooooooooool
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2014 09:57 GMT
#292
like THAT read is bad

really really really bad
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2014 09:58 GMT
#293
On November 20 2014 18:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think i'm muted in the slightest rofl


you've only insulted 1 person so far, that's muted for you.


the day is young
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 09:59 GMT
#294
On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:
On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
[image loading]


really wtf is with the votes

Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad?


stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions?

There is no reason to vote hope

the votes are bad

same thing

LOL

What was the point of your question mafia?

i change my vote

templar is mafai
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 10:00 GMT
#295
[image loading]
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 20 2014 10:00 GMT
#296
On November 20 2014 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
I don't understand how you can call someone mafia for defending someone WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU EXAGGERATED EVERYTHING TO PRESSURE HIM. looooooooooool

I didn't exaggerate my read Holyflare, I still think he's mafia for it. I was just exaggerating how certain I am of it - I'm NOT certain of it, it's just my read.

And further, I'm not saying you're mafia FOR defending Hopeless. My reasoning is clear and explicit. I'm saying your mafia for defending Hopeless FOR BAD REASON (saying that something that IS objectively scummy is NOT objectively scummy) AT A WEIRD TIME (right after you acquired a scumread of him yourself, in response to MY pressure of him) WHILE SCUMREADING HIM!

Holyflare Jesus Christ, I never have to spell shit out for you multiple times like this. Maybe you are town. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 20 2014 10:01 GMT
#297
On November 20 2014 18:59 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:
On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
[image loading]


really wtf is with the votes

Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad?


stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions?

There is no reason to vote hope

the votes are bad

same thing

LOL

What was the point of your question mafia?

i change my vote

templar is mafai

Those are completely different. I am not active, because you said I'm not active, so I won't bother to answer your post now. Maybe if you remind me later I will
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#298
On November 20 2014 18:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah this has been pretty productive.

In summary:

I think Hopeless is mafia based on interactions/reaction.

I think Holyflare is mafia based on him defending Hopeless at a weird time (right after he reacts poorly to my pressure) for a weird reason (apparently feigning contribution to appear contributory is NOT scummy?), and under weird circumstances (he agrees that the reaction to his only other scumread is scummy). On top of everything else, he just keeps trying to discredit everything I do and say as senseless when I've been very clear about everything I've done this game.

I think Chez is town because he drew a very cool picture of me. Also he pointed out Hopeless and I agreed with him.

Rayn will explain his thoughts and then I'll give my read on rayn.

I have no idea what lian is doing. But he's voting for HF so we can be friends for now.

Templar's post is bad, but I don't think it makes him mafia. It's an awful big post and a lot of effort for mafia to go to. IF he's mafia then why does he make that post? Like, I'm not the lynch today in any world, ever. If he wants to fight me about that fine - but why does he do that as mafia?

Yes I've exaggerated a bit about how sure I am of my reads, but the reasoning is in the thread - if you disagree with it fine, just say why.


Yo Mafia is bussing each other like hard ons

ve hf hope templar mafia
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2014 10:03 GMT
#299
On November 20 2014 18:59 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:
On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
[image loading]


really wtf is with the votes

Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad?


stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions?

There is no reason to vote hope

the votes are bad

same thing

LOL

What was the point of your question mafia?

i change my vote

templar is mafai


why is there no reason to vote hopeless? do you not like my or VE's read on him?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 20 2014 10:04 GMT
#300
Okay, whatever, this is fucking retarded.

MAYBE I'll be back later to update my thoughts. Maybe.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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