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ObiWanShinobi
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On November 11 2014 01:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Medics aren't notified of saves and mafia is forced to kill. This was the issue we had. hmm okay. There is not gonna be a fucking way mafia shot anyone and roleblocked their shooter. If that's what happened then whoever did that deserves to win and i raise my hat to them (BECAUSE THE CHANGE WAS MADE 2min BEFORE THE N2 deadline!!!! no time for mafia to react). Now the situation is: bats - obvtown Breshke - obvtown Serejai - mostly obv town sicklucker - town Cava/Fecal/Superbia/Elvis -- I really do not have any fucking idea atm Sentinel - scummyscumscumclaimedscum I actually have to do something after this phase... I thought we were gonna win straight up. Can someone of those four claim town so we can just win? | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On November 11 2014 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: bats let's be clear you were informed of a SUCCESFULL SAVE right? No I was not. I saved you and you didn't die. I figured that meant it was successful since I wasn't notified of a RB or anything. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On November 11 2014 01:36 batsnacks wrote: No I was not. I saved you and you didn't die. I figured that meant it was successful since I wasn't notified of a RB or anything. Good answer. Anyone wanna counter-claim dat medic?  | ||
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batsnacks
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raynpelikoneet
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On November 11 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmm okay. There is not gonna be a fucking way mafia shot anyone and roleblocked their shooter. If that's what happened then whoever did that deserves to win and i raise my hat to them (BECAUSE THE CHANGE WAS MADE 2min BEFORE THE N2 deadline!!!! no time for mafia to react). Now the situation is: bats - obvtown Breshke - obvtown Serejai - mostly obv town sicklucker - town Cava/Fecal/Superbia/Elvis -- I really do not have any fucking idea atm Sentinel - scummyscumscumclaimedscum I actually have to do something after this phase... I thought we were gonna win straight up. Can someone of those four claim town so we can just win? What makes Breshke confirmed? Not that I think he's scum, but the three confirmed town would be myself, you, and batsnacks at the moment. I still disagree with your read on sicklucker. He's either scum or the worst town in the history of mafia, and I find the latter hard to believe. Did you see my recent post about him? On November 10 2014 07:37 Serejai wrote: On SL... This guy was A+ rating in Brood War. From this we can assume he is above average at decision making. He's also a professional poker player and makes a full-time living winning tens of thousands of dollars at tournaments. From this we can assume he's good at reading people and situations. Now... The SL in this game has been absolutely awful at both. I'm just struggling to believe someone who has the ability to make judgement calls well enough to be a semi-pro BW player and a professional poker player could do the exact opposite in a game of mafia; especially when he claims to watch allstar mafia and read a ton of external literature on how to play. It doesn't add up. | ||
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Serejai
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On November 11 2014 01:42 Serejai wrote: What makes Breshke confirmed? Not that I think he's scum, but the three confirmed town would be myself, you, and batsnacks at the moment. I still disagree with your read on sicklucker. He's either scum or the worst town in the history of mafia, and I find the latter hard to believe. Did you see my recent post about him? I'm just struggling to believe someone who has the ability to make judgement calls well enough to be a semi-pro BW player and a professional poker player could do the exact opposite in a game of mafia; especially when he claims to watch allstar mafia and read a ton of external literature on how to play. It doesn't add up. Being a semi-pro BW player does not make you really good as mafia. Have you read games where Sheth has played? (yes he has played mafia years ago and i wasn't really that impressed) Nor does playing poker... Have you read his posts from a mindset of a poker-player? Who bases his judgement mainly on possibilities and work from there (because that's what i think people playing poker do). Correct me if i am wrong but to me it actually makes more sense for him to be town. being good at reading certain strategies != being good at reading people. just because mafia != poker. I play a bit of poker (live with friends) and that's what i think. Mainly because in any game (let it be mafia or poker or BW or whatever) the first time you play against someone you do not have meta. Then you focus on things not related to meta -> more gameplay and game theory. For example i have an easy time reading someone like kush, or Sentinel, or Grack. I have really hard time of reading any other of you (based on things are easy on the ppl i just laid out) just because i have not played much with you. I THINK (or rather thought) i could read Cava, but it's really fucking hard because he isn't giving the tells i would suppose him to do as EITHER alignment. Maybe he is just bored? Probably. But i don't know if scum!bored or town!bored. While i do not like this sort of play at all and if it was D1 i would lynch him in an instant for it it is not an option now and i need to use inperfect information to judge his alignment because he just doesn't care. Maybe we lose the game because of him. Who knows. That last part was to show that even if you DID "know your game" there are things in a game of mafia that make the game fucking frustrating to you, at least they do it for me. So i don't buy the "SL is poker-player BW pro he should be good he is not therefore mafia gg" argument. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On November 11 2014 01:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I didn't shoot rayn you silly gooses oh yes you did you scummy scum <3 | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
He doesn't come off as a "bad player" or a "new player", but rather as someone who is pretending to be one. For a short time I thought the reason why he was like this is because he was the doctor and it was some kind of really weird diversionary tactic... but then batsnacks claimed. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On November 11 2014 01:48 batsnacks wrote: I wouldn't hold it against you if you told us who did. It wasn't me and it wasn't rayn. That means it was one of the rest of you  | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On November 11 2014 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Breshke is semi-confirmed for pushing kush on D2 over other lynches (like bats). Wasn't it you that said kush likes to be bussed when he plays scum, though? Someone here mentioned that, so Breshke could've been doing that. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On November 11 2014 02:00 Serejai wrote: It's not so much that I'd expect him to be good... more than I'd expect him to be less terrible. He's spent all game dodging questions, self-confirming himself as town for these ridiculous reason that don't make any sense, blue hunting all game, etc. He seems to lack common sense entirely and that's just hard for me to stomach from someone with his background and who has allegedly put so much time into studying mafia before playing. He doesn't come off as a "bad player" or a "new player", but rather as someone who is pretending to be one. For a short time I thought the reason why he was like this is because he was the doctor and it was some kind of really weird diversionary tactic... but then batsnacks claimed. I mean, he asked for our medic to claim yesterday for no apparent reason. That just seems too stupid to be true. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On November 11 2014 02:01 Serejai wrote: Wasn't it you that said kush likes to be bussed when he plays scum, though? Someone here mentioned that, so Breshke could've been doing that. Definitely | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On November 11 2014 02:01 Serejai wrote: Wasn't it you that said kush likes to be bussed when he plays scum, though? Someone here mentioned that, so Breshke could've been doing that. kush likes to bus, not be bused. e.g. voting sentinel D1. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On November 11 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmm okay. There is not gonna be a fucking way mafia shot anyone and roleblocked their shooter. If that's what happened then whoever did that deserves to win and i raise my hat to them (BECAUSE THE CHANGE WAS MADE 2min BEFORE THE N2 deadline!!!! no time for mafia to react). Now the situation is: bats - obvtown Breshke - obvtown Serejai - mostly obv town sicklucker - town Cava/Fecal/Superbia/Elvis -- I really do not have any fucking idea atm Sentinel - scummyscumscumclaimedscum I actually have to do something after this phase... I thought we were gonna win straight up. Can someone of those four claim town so we can just win? I'm town. Bam. Game solved. | ||
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