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Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 10 2014 19:01 GMT

#521

No one around for a quick chat? Worst thing that can happen is me lynching you.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 10 2014 19:04 GMT

#522

I'm here I just have to catch up on all 16 of these posts.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 10 2014 19:05 GMT

#523

On October 10 2014 20:08 Breshke wrote:
Also Rad, Superbia and Loaf i really want to know your opinion on everything that has happened since end of D1. Fecal I know you think im mafia but your case is mostly centered around me trying to tunnel on you or attach myself is what you called it. I don't know how to show you this isn't true. I first asked superbia about you because i have played with him before and you two seemed pretty chummy and your play was almost very similar so i was interested in what he had to say about you.

Ff whats your opinion on elvis? Why did you have superbia in your scum at the end of N1?

Elvis is pretty towny to me.
Because superbia was totally inactive after saying he would post later. I believe my list comes before he said he would be watching DOTA all night, though.

I think this game is really hard right now and I'm afraid of lynching another towny in such a small setup so before anyone asks, that's why I haven't voted.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 10 2014 19:05 GMT

#524

Yo FF where do you stand? What are your thoughts on the game so far?

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 10 2014 19:09 GMT

#525

On October 10 2014 20:29 Breshke wrote:

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On October 10 2014 20:13 abuse wrote:

On October 10 2014 19:46 Breshke wrote:

On October 10 2014 18:33 abuse wrote:

On October 10 2014 18:18 Rad wrote:
@abuse STOP with your insistence that claiming vet would be good here. If some newbie town vet reads your shit and claims just cause you said it's a good idea, I'm voting your ass immediately.

Scum can NOT know what the set up is at the moment. They REQUIRE knowing whether it was a vet or not to know what the setup is. All scum could possibly know that town doesn't is whether or not scum has a roleblocker. That's it. No other information has been revealed to give them any clue as to what the PRs are.

Now that I look at the setup better you are right that scum will know what the setup is if they know if there is a vet in the game.
Still, do you think giving them that information in exchange for receiving information ourselves is such a bad deal that you would vote a townie for this? Because that's not helping town. Also it's no good assuming that scum do not have a brain to have ideas as to what the setup could be right now, judging by other people's posts so far.
Scum's main job currently except for causing mislynches and staying hidden is finding PR's.

I like your rage though. +1 town point.

Why would scum have more of an idea than us. it's like you are trying to scare the pr or pr's into outing by saying mafia know who they are.

Does it not make sense to you why i am reading loaf as town now? I think Elvis is mafia and currently i refuse to believe that everyone who voted on Zen was town. Look how noone even tried to defend him or anything none of you guys even tried to get reads from Zen before he was lynched if he had ended up being mafia what would you have gone on to try and find his partner so no i refuse to think you can all be town so then i come to the logical conclusion that loaf is town.

So you arn't even going to consider elvis's possible slip anymore? Are you reading him town then?

Because scum have more information on their end, because they know what roles they are, so they know more what signs they should be looking for. And no it is not like I am trying to scare the PR's into outing, where the fuck did you get that idea? I am EXPLICITLY saying in pretty much all of my posts that other PR's should not out right now under any circumstances. This is precisely the reason why I am voting you now. You are making stuff up, while trying to paint me black. Currently there is no way in hell I am going to consider elvis a bigger scum than you. He did say that Zen was town before he was flipped, but as he himself explained, it IS possible that he just assumed that while trying to figure out what you as scum were thinking.
Every single one of your latest posts just paints you more and more as scum.

I disagree, i think that especially on D1 even if you can get a PR read on someone it is extremely hard to tell what PR they are so i don't see why you have any reason to say that you think that mafia probably knows who PRs are. Why mention this at all if not to scare town. I'm not making anything up, im not even reading you as mafia at the moment you are null for me i have no idea what you are doing but I really don't think both mafia would be the two main people to push on me because if i getting lynched i WILL flip town and it its going to look terrible for you two.

Why would he assume that at all then? This makes no sense if he assumed he was town in a read on my why is he in his scum. why is that scenario even going through his head.

Abuse I know for a fact that at least 2 of your 3 scum reads this game are wrong and i don't know if this is because you are mafia or confused town. Get out of your tunnel for a second and assume i am town or just take me out of this game completely. Who would be your scum reads?

k, that's a little bit weird.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 10 2014 19:10 GMT

#526

Hullo super. I think you should post a lot more as unless we get another lucky JK/Doc save we're boned. You watched mad dota last night, are you all caught up? Why not give your thoughts on the game?

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 10 2014 19:12 GMT

#527

On October 10 2014 21:58 Elvis! wrote:

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Which leads to them knowing a lot about the setup.
If there is a Roleblocker, only 2 scenarios are possible:
Mafia Roleblocker Town Cop Town Doctor or
1-shot Bulletproof Townie Mafia Roleblocker Town Jailkeeper

So they would know that there cannot be a Tracker.

If they know there is no Roleblocker it can only be
Town Cop Mafia Goon Vanilla Townie or
Mafia Goon Town Doctor Town Tracker

So they would know that there cannot be a 1-shot Bulletproof Townie.

How does talking about this amount of information not make sense? It's very relevant how the situation would be after roleclaims, and if it might have advantages for the town.

Why do you refuse talking about all kinds of possible scenarios? It's not like there is an obvious answer to them.

To repeat:
Zen was not 100% scum for me at the time.
If someone isn't 100%, which since this is the game of mafia is extremely rare to happen, he must always be available to be seen as townie.
You don't want people to tunnel? Allow different perspectives.

This is the most interesting thing you have said on the topic:

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This is exaclty what I did with Zen, getting him outside my tunnel and viewing as a weird, possible town.
Now this for you is a reason to call me scum, even though you want people to do EXACTLY that with you.
Whaaaaaaaaat?

and Elvis with the assist.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 10 2014 19:13 GMT

#528

and by assist I mean he mentioned it first, and in greater detail than I did.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 10 2014 19:18 GMT

#529

On October 11 2014 04:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hullo super. I think you should post a lot more as unless we get another lucky JK/Doc save we're boned. You watched mad dota last night, are you all caught up? Why not give your thoughts on the game?

Nah not caught up at all. Currently reading the zen push again. What are your thoughts on abuse and loaf?

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 10 2014 19:58 GMT

#530

FF did you faint or what?

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 10 2014 20:15 GMT

#531

Went outside with the dog. I think abuse is doing a lot, I think loaf is kinda scummy. I wont be here long enough for big posts til 00:00 GMT (+00:00)

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 10 2014 20:17 GMT

#532

Lol, who are you mafia with?

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 10 2014 20:20 GMT

#533

No need for big posts, just explain your thought process behind this list:

On October 10 2014 06:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
omg before deadline if I die:
town
elvis
abuse
scum
breshke
super

everyone else null or i can't think

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 10 2014 20:28 GMT

#534

On October 11 2014 05:20 Superbia wrote:
No need for big posts, just explain your thought process behind this list:

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elvis used his time during night, abuse used his time during night but felt it was better used at the end, they both did work. Breshke looked scummy all game and you were doing nothing as well. You still are doing nothing, really.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 10 2014 20:29 GMT

#535

On October 11 2014 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:

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You were around for most of the night, why did you have to rush everything? What do you think about Rad?

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 10 2014 20:41 GMT

#536

I think he's doing nothing as well, to be honest. I thought I would get out my thoughts before the day post, in case I got killed. At the end it says "null or I can't think."

I was here for a while and most of that time was dedicated to making a case on breshke. Out of the people who are less active (2-3 page filters) rad, breshke, loaf, and elvis, elvis has done the most work so he is town. Out of the others, I read breshke the most scum based on his entire filter, and loaf less scum. My scum read on you is different than these people. You seem to be poking at me like you did last game, except a lot harder. Almost as if you are thinking the same as breshke, even.