• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:30
CEST 15:30
KST 22:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202531Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder6EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings EWC 2025 - Replay Pack #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 721 users

Newbie Mini Mafia LIX - Page 28

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 58 Next
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:49 GMT
#541
No, the list was before you even said you were watching esl, I said I don't think being silent during most of the night is very towny.

I'm talking about now. You are poking at me now, even though before you were leaning me town. What has changed?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:49 GMT
#542
Am I really that hard to understand? I said my read on you is different. I then said one thing regarding my read toward you.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 20:51 GMT
#543
Not all of us know who the townies are, FF.

So your entire list was based on who was active during N1? Nothing from D1?
Minimal effort.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:54 GMT
#544
On October 11 2014 05:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think he's doing nothing as well, to be honest. I thought I would get out my thoughts before the day post, in case I got killed. At the end it says "null or I can't think."

I was here for a while and most of that time was dedicated to making a case on breshke. Out of the people who are less active (2-3 page filters) rad, breshke, loaf, and elvis, elvis has done the most work so he is town. Out of the others, I read breshke the most scum based on his entire filter, and loaf less scum. My scum read on you is different than these people. You seem to be poking at me like you did last game, except a lot harder. Almost as if you are thinking the same as breshke, even.


Yeah I took night into account and weighed it heavily but I also look at entire filters. Again, am I that hard to understand, or are you doing this to get me mad?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 20:56 GMT
#545
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum.
Minimal effort.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:56 GMT
#546
Any town online?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:59 GMT
#547
On October 11 2014 05:56 Superbia wrote:
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum.

Rad did work early on, then went missing from the thread for a while and did much less work in his later posts causing me not to think of him at the time of my panic post.

Reads change, obviously yours has when you said I was leaning town.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:01 GMT
#548
On October 11 2014 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:56 Superbia wrote:
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum.

Rad did work early on, then went missing from the thread for a while and did much less work in his later posts causing me not to think of him at the time of my panic post.

Reads change, obviously yours has when you said I was leaning town.


And it was purely based on me being gone during the night, right? At least at the point during which you gave your list.
Minimal effort.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 21:06 GMT
#549
On October 11 2014 06:01 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 11 2014 05:56 Superbia wrote:
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum.

Rad did work early on, then went missing from the thread for a while and did much less work in his later posts causing me not to think of him at the time of my panic post.

Reads change, obviously yours has when you said I was leaning town.


And it was purely based on me being gone during the night, right? At least at the point during which you gave your list.

Yeah, thought it might bring you back to the thread to do some work but it seems to have only succeeded in making you upset.

If I had spent the time to write

town
leaning town
null
leaning scum
scum

and fill it in with everyone, I wouldn't have gotten it in before...

I would have had a smaller chance of getting it in before the day post. My list was not all inclusive, definitive, or in order at the time of smashing it out on a keyboard.

I like the response it got, though. Makes me think my list may have been accurate.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 21:07 GMT
#550
you made me stop getting ready and go to my pc to respond to you. Are you happy?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:13 GMT
#551
You added me to scum at EoN1 to bring me back the the thread?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:13 GMT
#552
EBWOP: to the thread*
Minimal effort.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 21:24 GMT
#553
On October 10 2014 21:58 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 21:27 Breshke wrote:
That bolded part is horribly wrong sorry it is ment to say, This makes no sense if he assumed Zen was town to read me scum then why would he have him in his scumlist.

[quoteAlso it's no good assuming that scum do not have a brain to have ideas as to what the setup could be right now, judging by other people's posts so far.]

You said this and it makes no sense to me the only thing they know is if there is a role blocker or not.

I do agree that other people need to talk and ill be going to bed soon and hope to see content from others in the morning.



Which leads to them knowing a lot about the setup.
If there is a Roleblocker, only 2 scenarios are possible:
Mafia Roleblocker Town Cop Town Doctor or
1-shot Bulletproof Townie Mafia Roleblocker Town Jailkeeper

So they would know that there cannot be a Tracker.

If they know there is no Roleblocker it can only be
Town Cop Mafia Goon Vanilla Townie or
Mafia Goon Town Doctor Town Tracker

So they would know that there cannot be a 1-shot Bulletproof Townie.

How does talking about this amount of information not make sense? It's very relevant how the situation would be after roleclaims, and if it might have advantages for the town.

Why do you refuse talking about all kinds of possible scenarios? It's not like there is an obvious answer to them.


To repeat:
Zen was not 100% scum for me at the time.
If someone isn't 100%, which since this is the game of mafia is extremely rare to happen, he must always be available to be seen as townie.
You don't want people to tunnel? Allow different perspectives.

This is the most interesting thing you have said on the topic:

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 20:29 Breshke wrote:
Get out of your tunnel for a second and assume i am town or just take me out of this game completely. Who would be your scum reads?


This is exaclty what I did with Zen, getting him outside my tunnel and viewing as a weird, possible town.
Now this for you is a reason to call me scum, even though you want people to do EXACTLY that with you.
Whaaaaaaaaat?



So elvis i can know some stuff for a fact. I know im town and i know Zen was town. that is two of abuses scumreads. How can you have a problem with me saying that?

You know why you don't talk about the possible setups? Because it is mafias reactions to these posts that help them find PRs. We arn't even in mylo yet so unless a PR has useful information i don't see any point in talking about them,

It is still weird to me that Zen was your second biggest scum read even bigger than loaf who you had made a case on and yet you considered him town trying to use vote logic. The thing is that the vote logic there would have also worked if he was my scum buddy so i still don't see why you would use the world where you assume he is town.

I still think it was a slip. Also there are other reasons i am calling you scum. Your entire first post on me was bullshit. two of its main points were the vote on Zen and that i was causing chaos. I then called you out on the vote on Zen and you said that that point wasnt important it was more the causing chaso. I then ask you to show the quotes you promised that show i am causing chaos. What you come back with is sub par andyou never point out exactly where i am misleading town or causing chaos. So once again i will ask you Elvis Where was i causing chaos? Also who do you think my "scum" partner is?

FF i find that you are reading Elvis town because he has done the most work worrying. Abuse has done so much more than him and doesn't dodge my questions when I ask him to explain parts of his read.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 21:26 GMT
#554
You're taking another random specific from my post and questioning it. I'll answer only because it seems nobody else is around.

I said the word "might" putting you in the scum list also might get you to go crazy over being scumread. You're reinforcing my read with every post you make but at the TIME OF POSTING yes, I put you in the scum column to see how you would react to being put in the scum column, along with the fact that you did not post hardly at all during the night.

Two things going through my head:
1. You have the biggest filter

2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.

If you have a real reason to think I'm scum, vote me. If not, I'm not going to argue over my panic list anymore.

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 21:30 GMT
#555
I have to go, I will re-read the entire game when I get to work and come back with real reads in a bit.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 21:31 GMT
#556
On October 11 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.


Shouldn't I then be town?
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:35 GMT
#557
On October 11 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
You're taking another random specific from my post and questioning it. I'll answer only because it seems nobody else is around.


I said the word "might" putting you in the scum list also might get you to go crazy over being scumread. You're reinforcing my read with every post you make but at the TIME OF POSTING yes, I put you in the scum column to see how you would react to being put in the scum column, along with the fact that you did not post hardly at all during the night.

Two things going through my head:
1. You have the biggest filter

2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.

If you have a real reason to think I'm scum, vote me. If not, I'm not going to argue over my panic list anymore.

[/QUOTE]

So let me get this perfectly straight FF:
- It's almost EoN1.
- You want to make a quick list because you think you're going to die (this is your mindset during the post).
- You put me on the scum list because YOU WANT A REACTION?.

How does this make sense when you think it's possible you're about to die? It only makes sense if you think you're going to be alive to follow up the next day.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:37 GMT
#558
Bresh let's talk. You're reading elvis as scum?
Minimal effort.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 21:44 GMT
#559
Yep sure am. What do you think he is? I am also worried about loaf being MIA.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:47 GMT
#560
Explain to me real quick why he definitely is scum here. Just give a quick rundown of your arguments.
Minimal effort.
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 58 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 56
CranKy Ducklings75
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 519
mcanning 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 43884
BeSt 3372
Bisu 2860
Flash 1701
Jaedong 1432
Barracks 920
EffOrt 827
ggaemo 807
Mini 604
Soulkey 455
[ Show more ]
firebathero 405
Last 191
Larva 165
hero 117
Snow 101
Mind 93
ToSsGirL 88
Soma 86
Hyun 66
TY 62
Free 41
Sea.KH 37
[sc1f]eonzerg 36
sSak 36
Movie 35
Sharp 34
JYJ32
Yoon 22
Icarus 20
soO 19
sorry 16
Sacsri 15
Bale 12
Hm[arnc] 11
IntoTheRainbow 7
Terrorterran 7
ivOry 5
GuemChi 0
Dota 2
qojqva3350
Gorgc2502
XcaliburYe283
KheZu281
420jenkins232
League of Legends
Reynor71
Counter-Strike
ScreaM3104
byalli383
markeloff82
kRYSTAL_41
edward35
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox591
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 245
Other Games
singsing2087
B2W.Neo955
hiko869
DeMusliM401
crisheroes365
Fuzer 278
oskar228
Lowko192
Happy140
QueenE53
rGuardiaN35
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 32
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta155
• StrangeGG 72
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3273
• WagamamaTV520
League of Legends
• Jankos1152
Upcoming Events
Online Event
2h 30m
Wayne vs ArT
Strange vs Nicoract
Shameless vs GgMaChine
YoungYakov vs MilkiCow
OSC
4h 30m
Cham vs Bunny
ByuN vs TriGGeR
SHIN vs Krystianer
ShoWTimE vs Spirit
WardiTV European League
1d 2h
MaNa vs NightPhoenix
ByuN vs YoungYakov
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
Korean StarCraft League
1d 13h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 22h
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs TBD
[ Show More ]
WardiTV European League
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Roobet Cup 2025
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.