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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:49 GMT
#541
No, the list was before you even said you were watching esl, I said I don't think being silent during most of the night is very towny.

I'm talking about now. You are poking at me now, even though before you were leaning me town. What has changed?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:49 GMT
#542
Am I really that hard to understand? I said my read on you is different. I then said one thing regarding my read toward you.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 20:51 GMT
#543
Not all of us know who the townies are, FF.

So your entire list was based on who was active during N1? Nothing from D1?
Minimal effort.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:54 GMT
#544
On October 11 2014 05:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think he's doing nothing as well, to be honest. I thought I would get out my thoughts before the day post, in case I got killed. At the end it says "null or I can't think."

I was here for a while and most of that time was dedicated to making a case on breshke. Out of the people who are less active (2-3 page filters) rad, breshke, loaf, and elvis, elvis has done the most work so he is town. Out of the others, I read breshke the most scum based on his entire filter, and loaf less scum. My scum read on you is different than these people. You seem to be poking at me like you did last game, except a lot harder. Almost as if you are thinking the same as breshke, even.


Yeah I took night into account and weighed it heavily but I also look at entire filters. Again, am I that hard to understand, or are you doing this to get me mad?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 20:56 GMT
#545
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum.
Minimal effort.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:56 GMT
#546
Any town online?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 20:59 GMT
#547
On October 11 2014 05:56 Superbia wrote:
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum.

Rad did work early on, then went missing from the thread for a while and did much less work in his later posts causing me not to think of him at the time of my panic post.

Reads change, obviously yours has when you said I was leaning town.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:01 GMT
#548
On October 11 2014 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:56 Superbia wrote:
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum.

Rad did work early on, then went missing from the thread for a while and did much less work in his later posts causing me not to think of him at the time of my panic post.

Reads change, obviously yours has when you said I was leaning town.


And it was purely based on me being gone during the night, right? At least at the point during which you gave your list.
Minimal effort.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 21:06 GMT
#549
On October 11 2014 06:01 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 11 2014 05:56 Superbia wrote:
Just wondering how Rad goes from top town to missing and I go from leaning town to pure scum.

Rad did work early on, then went missing from the thread for a while and did much less work in his later posts causing me not to think of him at the time of my panic post.

Reads change, obviously yours has when you said I was leaning town.


And it was purely based on me being gone during the night, right? At least at the point during which you gave your list.

Yeah, thought it might bring you back to the thread to do some work but it seems to have only succeeded in making you upset.

If I had spent the time to write

town
leaning town
null
leaning scum
scum

and fill it in with everyone, I wouldn't have gotten it in before...

I would have had a smaller chance of getting it in before the day post. My list was not all inclusive, definitive, or in order at the time of smashing it out on a keyboard.

I like the response it got, though. Makes me think my list may have been accurate.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 21:07 GMT
#550
you made me stop getting ready and go to my pc to respond to you. Are you happy?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:13 GMT
#551
You added me to scum at EoN1 to bring me back the the thread?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:13 GMT
#552
EBWOP: to the thread*
Minimal effort.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 21:24 GMT
#553
On October 10 2014 21:58 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 21:27 Breshke wrote:
That bolded part is horribly wrong sorry it is ment to say, This makes no sense if he assumed Zen was town to read me scum then why would he have him in his scumlist.

[quoteAlso it's no good assuming that scum do not have a brain to have ideas as to what the setup could be right now, judging by other people's posts so far.]

You said this and it makes no sense to me the only thing they know is if there is a role blocker or not.

I do agree that other people need to talk and ill be going to bed soon and hope to see content from others in the morning.



Which leads to them knowing a lot about the setup.
If there is a Roleblocker, only 2 scenarios are possible:
Mafia Roleblocker Town Cop Town Doctor or
1-shot Bulletproof Townie Mafia Roleblocker Town Jailkeeper

So they would know that there cannot be a Tracker.

If they know there is no Roleblocker it can only be
Town Cop Mafia Goon Vanilla Townie or
Mafia Goon Town Doctor Town Tracker

So they would know that there cannot be a 1-shot Bulletproof Townie.

How does talking about this amount of information not make sense? It's very relevant how the situation would be after roleclaims, and if it might have advantages for the town.

Why do you refuse talking about all kinds of possible scenarios? It's not like there is an obvious answer to them.


To repeat:
Zen was not 100% scum for me at the time.
If someone isn't 100%, which since this is the game of mafia is extremely rare to happen, he must always be available to be seen as townie.
You don't want people to tunnel? Allow different perspectives.

This is the most interesting thing you have said on the topic:

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 20:29 Breshke wrote:
Get out of your tunnel for a second and assume i am town or just take me out of this game completely. Who would be your scum reads?


This is exaclty what I did with Zen, getting him outside my tunnel and viewing as a weird, possible town.
Now this for you is a reason to call me scum, even though you want people to do EXACTLY that with you.
Whaaaaaaaaat?



So elvis i can know some stuff for a fact. I know im town and i know Zen was town. that is two of abuses scumreads. How can you have a problem with me saying that?

You know why you don't talk about the possible setups? Because it is mafias reactions to these posts that help them find PRs. We arn't even in mylo yet so unless a PR has useful information i don't see any point in talking about them,

It is still weird to me that Zen was your second biggest scum read even bigger than loaf who you had made a case on and yet you considered him town trying to use vote logic. The thing is that the vote logic there would have also worked if he was my scum buddy so i still don't see why you would use the world where you assume he is town.

I still think it was a slip. Also there are other reasons i am calling you scum. Your entire first post on me was bullshit. two of its main points were the vote on Zen and that i was causing chaos. I then called you out on the vote on Zen and you said that that point wasnt important it was more the causing chaso. I then ask you to show the quotes you promised that show i am causing chaos. What you come back with is sub par andyou never point out exactly where i am misleading town or causing chaos. So once again i will ask you Elvis Where was i causing chaos? Also who do you think my "scum" partner is?

FF i find that you are reading Elvis town because he has done the most work worrying. Abuse has done so much more than him and doesn't dodge my questions when I ask him to explain parts of his read.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 21:26 GMT
#554
You're taking another random specific from my post and questioning it. I'll answer only because it seems nobody else is around.

I said the word "might" putting you in the scum list also might get you to go crazy over being scumread. You're reinforcing my read with every post you make but at the TIME OF POSTING yes, I put you in the scum column to see how you would react to being put in the scum column, along with the fact that you did not post hardly at all during the night.

Two things going through my head:
1. You have the biggest filter

2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.

If you have a real reason to think I'm scum, vote me. If not, I'm not going to argue over my panic list anymore.

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 21:30 GMT
#555
I have to go, I will re-read the entire game when I get to work and come back with real reads in a bit.
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 21:31 GMT
#556
On October 11 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.


Shouldn't I then be town?
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:35 GMT
#557
On October 11 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
You're taking another random specific from my post and questioning it. I'll answer only because it seems nobody else is around.


I said the word "might" putting you in the scum list also might get you to go crazy over being scumread. You're reinforcing my read with every post you make but at the TIME OF POSTING yes, I put you in the scum column to see how you would react to being put in the scum column, along with the fact that you did not post hardly at all during the night.

Two things going through my head:
1. You have the biggest filter

2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.

If you have a real reason to think I'm scum, vote me. If not, I'm not going to argue over my panic list anymore.

[/QUOTE]

So let me get this perfectly straight FF:
- It's almost EoN1.
- You want to make a quick list because you think you're going to die (this is your mindset during the post).
- You put me on the scum list because YOU WANT A REACTION?.

How does this make sense when you think it's possible you're about to die? It only makes sense if you think you're going to be alive to follow up the next day.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:37 GMT
#558
Bresh let's talk. You're reading elvis as scum?
Minimal effort.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 21:44 GMT
#559
Yep sure am. What do you think he is? I am also worried about loaf being MIA.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 10 2014 21:47 GMT
#560
Explain to me real quick why he definitely is scum here. Just give a quick rundown of your arguments.
Minimal effort.
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