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Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 10 2014 05:51 GMT
#481
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 10 2014 05:53 GMT
#482
DERRR EBWOP:

Obviously I meant your post HERE is scummy as all hell:

On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


Copy paste fail /facepalm
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
October 10 2014 06:27 GMT
#483
So apparently now according to Breshke I'm mafia for no mafia reasons. There solely is town reasons behind my post and through my analysis of Breshke I have enough reason to say why he is not only useless and hiding, but outright disturbing us at scumhunting. Really just read my big post for the reasons.
If Breshke would have read my posts right he would know that there is not contradiction between calling someone very scummy but yet town.
Saying I'm scum for this sole reason, which I explained multiple times already, is pointless, there is no decent analysis at all of my case in his post, it's basically just OMGUS.

This OMGUS defense just further proves how he doesn't have any town motives. If a town thinks someone is mafia, the townie would make a posts with proof of scummy behaviour and thus stir up discussion on the matter.
While everyone can feel free about talking about my alignment, since I've got nothing to hide I think it's pointless and that we're not doing proper scumhunting with this.
Looking forward to everyone else's posts on Breshke and other scum pushes.
Especially from superbia since he said he now has to reevaluate everything and I'm interested in what he'll come up with.
other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 06:50 GMT
#484
On October 10 2014 15:27 Elvis! wrote:
So apparently now according to Breshke I'm mafia for no mafia reasons. There solely is town reasons behind my post and through my analysis of Breshke I have enough reason to say why he is not only useless and hiding, but outright disturbing us at scumhunting. Really just read my big post for the reasons.
If Breshke would have read my posts right he would know that there is not contradiction between calling someone very scummy but yet town.
Saying I'm scum for this sole reason, which I explained multiple times already, is pointless, there is no decent analysis at all of my case in his post, it's basically just OMGUS.

This OMGUS defense just further proves how he doesn't have any town motives. If a town thinks someone is mafia, the townie would make a posts with proof of scummy behaviour and thus stir up discussion on the matter.
While everyone can feel free about talking about my alignment, since I've got nothing to hide I think it's pointless and that we're not doing proper scumhunting with this.
Looking forward to everyone else's posts on Breshke and other scum pushes.
Especially from superbia since he said he now has to reevaluate everything and I'm interested in what he'll come up with.


vote me then. I've explained how that still doesn't make sense to me to assume someone is town to call someone else scum and to then call them scum. Also I still don't think you've shown a specific quote where im activly causing chaos and misleading town.

Also i don't think this is a omgus. Yes my vote on you for many reasons concerns your case on me but it isn't a omgus.

Abuse did you even read my post that was in response to yours?
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 10 2014 06:58 GMT
#485
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 10 2014 06:58 GMT
#486
On October 10 2014 15:50 Breshke wrote:
Abuse did you even read my post that was in response to yours?


nope not yet, i woke up a bit ago and am at work now, I'll read the long posts later and post what I think about them
I don't believe you.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 07:11 GMT
#487
On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.


the problem with this is we could have a medic not a vet so then say mafia try and kill the same person tomorrow and we still have our power role. Vet is going to be killed tonight if he claims so isn't it better to only claim if he is going to be lynched.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 07:34 GMT
#488
On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.


I'm not sure what I make of someone who hasn't even read how the game works by Day 2
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
October 10 2014 07:52 GMT
#489
Vote count:

Elvis! (1): Breshke

Not voting (6): Rad, Fecalfeast, Elvis!, abuse, loafery, Superbia

Currently, Elvis! is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Saturday, Oct 11 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory!

If there are errors, please let us know.


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: Breshke voted Elvis! (post)
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 10 2014 08:07 GMT
#490
On October 10 2014 16:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.


I'm not sure what I make of someone who hasn't even read how the game works by Day 2


clarify?
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 10 2014 08:09 GMT
#491
On October 10 2014 16:11 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.


the problem with this is we could have a medic not a vet so then say mafia try and kill the same person tomorrow and we still have our power role. Vet is going to be killed tonight if he claims so isn't it better to only claim if he is going to be lynched.


what I say is only based on the situation IF we have a vet. Vet claiming will not really impact how mafia choose their next kill. Scum should already know he's a vet just based on their own roles.
Also - what you are saying about him only claiming if he is going to be lynched is not bad. It is also correct. I never said the vet (if we have one) should claim right now. I said at some point.
I don't believe you.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 08:17 GMT
#492
On October 10 2014 17:09 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 16:11 Breshke wrote:
On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.


the problem with this is we could have a medic not a vet so then say mafia try and kill the same person tomorrow and we still have our power role. Vet is going to be killed tonight if he claims so isn't it better to only claim if he is going to be lynched.


what I say is only based on the situation IF we have a vet. Vet claiming will not really impact how mafia choose their next kill. Scum should already know he's a vet just based on their own roles.
Also - what you are saying about him only claiming if he is going to be lynched is not bad. It is also correct. I never said the vet (if we have one) should claim right now. I said at some point.


False, vet is in exactly two setups. One has a role blocker one doesn't. I also think that we shouldn't be talking about this because the PRs will sort themselves out when they decide to.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 10 2014 08:20 GMT
#493
On October 10 2014 17:17 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 17:09 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 16:11 Breshke wrote:
On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.


the problem with this is we could have a medic not a vet so then say mafia try and kill the same person tomorrow and we still have our power role. Vet is going to be killed tonight if he claims so isn't it better to only claim if he is going to be lynched.


what I say is only based on the situation IF we have a vet. Vet claiming will not really impact how mafia choose their next kill. Scum should already know he's a vet just based on their own roles.
Also - what you are saying about him only claiming if he is going to be lynched is not bad. It is also correct. I never said the vet (if we have one) should claim right now. I said at some point.


False, vet is in exactly two setups. One has a role blocker one doesn't. I also think that we shouldn't be talking about this because the PRs will sort themselves out when they decide to.


True, but if scum has a roleblocker he was not sucking on a thumb tonight, so if scum aren't dumb they should have som ideas as to what the setup is already.
Also we are only talking about a Vet who if exists, most likely does not have a vest anymore. I am confused by your statement about PR's sorting themselves out when they decide to, because at no point did we say that other PR's had to do anything at this point, and people doing stuff when they decide to themselves is what I've been pushing for this entire time. Why are you trying to make it sound like I did the opposite?
I don't believe you.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 10 2014 08:40 GMT
#494
On October 10 2014 17:20 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 17:17 Breshke wrote:
On October 10 2014 17:09 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 16:11 Breshke wrote:
On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.


the problem with this is we could have a medic not a vet so then say mafia try and kill the same person tomorrow and we still have our power role. Vet is going to be killed tonight if he claims so isn't it better to only claim if he is going to be lynched.


what I say is only based on the situation IF we have a vet. Vet claiming will not really impact how mafia choose their next kill. Scum should already know he's a vet just based on their own roles.
Also - what you are saying about him only claiming if he is going to be lynched is not bad. It is also correct. I never said the vet (if we have one) should claim right now. I said at some point.


False, vet is in exactly two setups. One has a role blocker one doesn't. I also think that we shouldn't be talking about this because the PRs will sort themselves out when they decide to.


True, but if scum has a roleblocker he was not sucking on a thumb tonight, so if scum aren't dumb they should have som ideas as to what the setup is already.
Also we are only talking about a Vet who if exists, most likely does not have a vest anymore. I am confused by your statement about PR's sorting themselves out when they decide to, because at no point did we say that other PR's had to do anything at this point, and people doing stuff when they decide to themselves is what I've been pushing for this entire time. Why are you trying to make it sound like I did the opposite?


Sorry i thought you and others made it abundantly clear not to do anything if you were a different PR. it was in no way my intention to make it look like that if i did. I think it is best to just stop talking about this really. I'm interested to see what you have to say about my reply to your post especially about some misconceptions about where you think my vote was at the end of the day.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 10 2014 08:54 GMT
#495
On October 10 2014 06:42 Breshke wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Linking the post this time so it isn't a wall again.

First of all i did not drop all suspicion of loaf, he started scum hunting so i started reading him townier for it. Like this is actually ridiculous elvis saying I wasn't going on anyone and calling me scummy for it and then for the same posts abuse says im going on loaf and then drop all suspicion.

You know why I "defended" Zen? Because this is a newbie game! He did something I in my first game also did and everyone was losing their shit about him not telling the truth. I wanted to shoot that stuff down read him scum but not for that. You say it isn't towny but why? I fully expected him not to be able to explain what was going on there as he wasn't even giving his reads before he died until i asked him twice. Yes i voted him with my very first vote because i wanted him to start playing and not just sit back. Also i have no idea why you emphasized very first vote there?

When i voted on ff i actually had no idea that rad had written the fos on him earlier. I don't know if i missed it or forgot about it but there is no way to prove this so it probably wont matter to you.

About my list and eys once again it was shit. The town were all equal not in order of most town if they were at the time you would have been top abuse. Also my vote was on ff so i have no idea what you are talking about here.

Abuse you asked people to re-evalute but at the end of D1 you had me zen and loaf as scum and nothing seemes to have changed for you after zens flip. In your world the vote on Zen went over with no mafia at all voting on him and one mafia defending him. (I personally don't think i defended him as i was prepared to vote for him because at the time superbia had only one less vote then he did and he was in my town.)


1) where did he start scum hunting and does scumhunting instantly make you a town? Can scum not pretend to scum hunt, especially if it's done so weakly that people (me for example) did not even notice it as scum hunting? Because if you think saying "superbia is scum because he farms others posts to read them later" is scumhunting then you are wrong.

2) Why does it matter if it is a newbie game or not? Your defense was rendered useless when you voted for him in the same post. You say you wanted to read him scum but not for that. Why did you read him scum then? How can you expect him not to be able to explain? Why do you assume such things if you did not know at that point what was zen's skill level? I emphasized the first vote because your first vote was done on someone you had not even mentioned before, yet when you were suspicious of loaf you did not vote for him.

3) why do you find the time to "reread ff's filter and see him scummy" all of a sudden, but not have time to read the previous page of the thread?

4) why was loaf town in your list? Where does the confidence come from. It doesn't matter who is top town who is least town if you think they are town.

5) Nothing much has changed for me after zens flip (at that point at least) was because your actions towards zen were the most suspicious during D1. I have checked every single person in the thread for this. I am not sure loaf is scum, he just seems like the most likely candidate if we consider you being scum. Scum don't have to be on the wagon to lynch a townie if the lynch already has enough support from town.


@ fecal, as for your question, basically breshke's post did not persuade me, but I still do not know how I feel about him pointing out the flaw in elvis's post, I think it is a pretty big deal.. :/ elvis did explain it to a decent degree, but it still leaves him as a coinflip.. The fact that breshke did notice that is quite townie of him.. I am not sure if it is townie enough to make him town though.. I need more time and events to clear this out.
I don't believe you.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 08:54 GMT
#496
On October 10 2014 17:07 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 16:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.


I'm not sure what I make of someone who hasn't even read how the game works by Day 2


clarify?

At the time of posting I thought you assumed it had to be a vigilante
but
Do you really think mafia gets told why their target wasn't killed? That gives them so much information, they know their own setup so if they shoot someone and get back "He was vig so he didn't die" they know exactly which setup it is.
ie if mafia has a roleblocker they know there is a jk and if they don't they know there's a tracker. Correct me if I'm wrong but that sounds ridiculous.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 10 2014 08:56 GMT
#497
@ breshke, your vote was on the other person, it was my bad. But I honestly don't think it matters much because your vote being on zen or not on zen did not change the fact that he was getting lynched and you did see zem as scummy aswell. I don't think your vote on fecal was justified.
I don't believe you.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 10 2014 08:57 GMT
#498
On October 10 2014 17:54 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 06:42 Breshke wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Linking the post this time so it isn't a wall again.

First of all i did not drop all suspicion of loaf, he started scum hunting so i started reading him townier for it. Like this is actually ridiculous elvis saying I wasn't going on anyone and calling me scummy for it and then for the same posts abuse says im going on loaf and then drop all suspicion.

You know why I "defended" Zen? Because this is a newbie game! He did something I in my first game also did and everyone was losing their shit about him not telling the truth. I wanted to shoot that stuff down read him scum but not for that. You say it isn't towny but why? I fully expected him not to be able to explain what was going on there as he wasn't even giving his reads before he died until i asked him twice. Yes i voted him with my very first vote because i wanted him to start playing and not just sit back. Also i have no idea why you emphasized very first vote there?

When i voted on ff i actually had no idea that rad had written the fos on him earlier. I don't know if i missed it or forgot about it but there is no way to prove this so it probably wont matter to you.

About my list and eys once again it was shit. The town were all equal not in order of most town if they were at the time you would have been top abuse. Also my vote was on ff so i have no idea what you are talking about here.

Abuse you asked people to re-evalute but at the end of D1 you had me zen and loaf as scum and nothing seemes to have changed for you after zens flip. In your world the vote on Zen went over with no mafia at all voting on him and one mafia defending him. (I personally don't think i defended him as i was prepared to vote for him because at the time superbia had only one less vote then he did and he was in my town.)


1) where did he start scum hunting and does scumhunting instantly make you a town? Can scum not pretend to scum hunt, especially if it's done so weakly that people (me for example) did not even notice it as scum hunting? Because if you think saying "superbia is scum because he farms others posts to read them later" is scumhunting then you are wrong.

2) Why does it matter if it is a newbie game or not? Your defense was rendered useless when you voted for him in the same post. You say you wanted to read him scum but not for that. Why did you read him scum then? How can you expect him not to be able to explain? Why do you assume such things if you did not know at that point what was zen's skill level? I emphasized the first vote because your first vote was done on someone you had not even mentioned before, yet when you were suspicious of loaf you did not vote for him.

3) why do you find the time to "reread ff's filter and see him scummy" all of a sudden, but not have time to read the previous page of the thread?

4) why was loaf town in your list? Where does the confidence come from. It doesn't matter who is top town who is least town if you think they are town.

5) Nothing much has changed for me after zens flip (at that point at least) was because your actions towards zen were the most suspicious during D1. I have checked every single person in the thread for this. I am not sure loaf is scum, he just seems like the most likely candidate if we consider you being scum. Scum don't have to be on the wagon to lynch a townie if the lynch already has enough support from town.


@ fecal, as for your question, basically breshke's post did not persuade me, but I still do not know how I feel about him pointing out the flaw in elvis's post, I think it is a pretty big deal.. :/ elvis did explain it to a decent degree, but it still leaves him as a coinflip.. The fact that breshke did notice that is quite townie of him.. I am not sure if it is townie enough to make him town though.. I need more time and events to clear this out.


You think someone who is being pressured by multiple people isn't going to defend himself?

What do you think of my conspiracy theory regarding breshke and does it fit at all with your current read of him?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 10 2014 09:02 GMT
#499
On October 10 2014 17:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 17:07 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 16:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:51 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Wow. That answer.

On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


Your post here is scummy as all hell.

It's indecisive in when you would suggest them to claim, why they should claim, and even whether you actually think they should claim. It's open to allow others to tell you it's a bad idea while also baiting a vet claim out. It looks townie while serving no use to town. It says a whole lot of nothing while looking engaged.

On October 10 2014 14:22 abuse wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:18 Rad wrote:
On October 10 2014 06:08 abuse wrote:
so scums shot failed. awesome.
glad to see that we either have a compitent PR or that scum failed and hit a vet.
If a vet was hit, I would suggest claiming it at some point, but it is completely up to you, so don't do it if you don't feel it is a good idea, but chances are high that a vet will just get hit again the next night.
Of course any other PR's should not claim.

Everyone who did not post at the end of N1, please start posting.


I'm curious. Let's say you're a vet. Would you claim?


don't try to find out if I'm a vet or not pls. find scum not PR's.


Now back to this gem. How am I trying to find out if you're a vet and not scum hunting right now? You're not getting over confident being a town read to most people d1 are you? Remember, we lynched a townie and there were 4 of us on him.


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.


I'm not sure what I make of someone who hasn't even read how the game works by Day 2


clarify?

At the time of posting I thought you assumed it had to be a vigilante
but
Do you really think mafia gets told why their target wasn't killed? That gives them so much information, they know their own setup so if they shoot someone and get back "He was vig so he didn't die" they know exactly which setup it is.
ie if mafia has a roleblocker they know there is a jk and if they don't they know there's a tracker. Correct me if I'm wrong but that sounds ridiculous.



Vet = 1shot bulletproof not vigilante.
Mafia should not be told why their target wasn't killed, but it can be deducted by analyzing the game. Mafia do have more information about the setup than we do though. Obviously except for the town PR's, because they have a better idea even than mafia do. A vet's claim would put everyone on the same page( VT's will know as much as PR's do currently, and the more important PR will know for sure which setup it is, while scum will still not be completely sure, because a vet can be in a setup with both a JK and a tracker. Basically it will give vanillas as much information about the game as mafia, while giving town 1 person who knows everything about the setup.
That is basically why I think that a vet claiming is a good idea but only IF they were shot tonight.
Plus there's the wildcard that mafia could fakeclaim vet, which could be fun, since we'd have some people here who would know for a fact that they would be lying.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
October 10 2014 09:04 GMT
#500
On October 10 2014 17:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
You think someone who is being pressured by multiple people isn't going to defend himself?

What do you think of my conspiracy theory regarding breshke and does it fit at all with your current read of him?


I am having a hard time understanding your posts D:
a person being pressured by multiple people is going to defend himself, the difference is how you defend yourself and do you try to hunt scum while you defend. Breshke did hunt scum and he caught a pretty good detail which I for one did not notice.

can you please link the conspiracy theory?
I don't believe you.
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