EPT[Manga] Naruto - Page 946
| Forum Index > Media & Entertainment |
|
bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
| ||
|
riotjune
United States3389 Posts
Got the h dojinshi's for that, and they do it way better. Might as well pretend they're canon *shrug | ||
|
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On September 26 2014 19:11 yevoc wrote: About Kishi:+ Show Spoiler + I remember digging up some Kishi interviews after Pain nearly killed Hinata to see if he'd kill her off back then... Kishi has openly stated before that the relationships he developed were necessary for the story and that if he weren't so "bad" (his words) at writing females and relationships he might actually have tried to develop them more properly. He went on to say that he was always afraid of losing the "action" if he ever tried to go down a road he wasn't good at. Instead, he envisioned how the relationship would/should have developed if he'd actually written it whenever he suddenly throws it in for a panel. He also said that he agrees with fans that Sakura and Hinata don't get enough chances to say how they feel and that he "hopes they get some good chances in before the end." (paraphrased) Keep in mind that was many years ago now. I think this very much explains what he was doing with Sakura in the last chapter. About Sasuke:+ Show Spoiler + It's also worth noting that Sasuke is clearly still amused/flattered by her outbursts and didn't exactly treat her like he did Karin, if you know what I mean. Definitely a red flag that he does in fact give a shit about her. About Sakura:+ Show Spoiler + Team 7 formed when they were 12 years old, and now they're 17. At those ages, I also had a crush for an 8 year span who had showed a mutual interest in me that was veiled with aloofness, where my affection never waned, no matter what happened. I was angry, bitter, and very confused and didn't get to interact with her much as time went on, but if my crush had been Sasuke, I could very easily see myself acting like Sakura did. Is it rational or mature? Not in the slightest, but a strong love formed in childhood is a *very* hard thing to completely snuff out. Even to this day, if I were suddenly placed in a similarly stressful situation with my long gone crush where we hadn't seen each other in 10 years, I still wouldn't be surprised if I did a similar outburst either. I very much identified with Sakura's outburst, so you might not like it, but don't go on about how unrealistic it is. Out of everything in Naruto, it has at least a flavor of legitness. I'm not going to comment on your personal story but to say Sakura being in love with Sasuke is in any way "realistic" (as in her feelings are relatively common or normal, because no matter how stupid the behavior someone will have done or are doing it at some point) is pretty silly especially when you have the author admitting he basically stopped all developments because he isn't good at them. So when you have stuff like this randomly popup it seems highly out of place. | ||
|
synapse
China13814 Posts
| ||
|
Rob-Zero
Germany450 Posts
On September 28 2014 02:45 synapse wrote: this whole sasuke: "ima kill y'all now" needs more explanation... I think you will get that in the next chapters. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On September 28 2014 02:25 Slaughter wrote: I'm not going to comment on your personal story but to say Sakura being in love with Sasuke is in any way "realistic" (as in her feelings are relatively common or normal, because no matter how stupid the behavior someone will have done or are doing it at some point) is pretty silly especially when you have the author admitting he basically stopped all developments because he isn't good at them. So when you have stuff like this randomly popup it seems highly out of place. Realistic for a yandere maybe. On September 26 2014 13:55 BigFan wrote: hmm on one hand, it feels like you clearly dismissed the pairing (want Hinata for yourself huh?  ) but on the other, you are only looking out for her development and we both see eye to eye on her being our type of girl therefore after further thought, I would like to invite you to join the Naruto x Hinata shipping group. You'll be guaranteed to hear about any and all things Hinata as well as be involved in engaging arguments for the pair. It is your sworn duty to uphold and defend this shipping till death do them apart! Do you accept this valuable opportunity? NOPE Gimme character development, an actual back-and-forth that doesn't cast Naruto as the pure hero, and some actual sensitivity on his part, then I'll reconsider.  | ||
|
GGitsJack
New Zealand426 Posts
| ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49433 Posts
On September 28 2014 21:55 GGitsJack wrote: I feel like I've lost most of the emotional attachment to Naruto and only read it for the sake of knowing what's going to happen every week I'd say its the same for many of us here. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On September 26 2014 19:51 Mataza wrote: Shipping community? Really? Well, to be fair, Kishi has hinted at more romantic developments early on, then stopped developing anything more because Rasengan. lol well, I've been to Naruto forums before and yes, at one point, there was a decent amount of shipping wars (in specific threads/areas). Dunno if its the case now but every little thing that 'could' be something was argued as being major for one pairing in turn decreasing the other pairing's chance of happening. Fun stuff! On September 28 2014 07:51 CosmicSpiral wrote: NOPE Gimme character development, an actual back-and-forth that doesn't cast Naruto as the pure hero, and some actual sensitivity on his part, then I'll reconsider. :O You dare decline such an offer? One day you will wake up and realize you made a grave mistake! I'm sorry but you must speak with Kishi about that. I can only do so much | ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5870 Posts
On September 26 2014 13:09 Dark_Chill wrote: ....Neither is SAO..... Sure, they both have varying levels of romance elements, but that doesn't make them romance. It's like saying Mario games are romance because he's saving his girlfriend. Not that the comparison itself wasn't stupid to begin with. The Aincrad arc was very much a romance, the others to a lesser degree. Sure, the premise of the online death game is cool and all, but everything about the premise created tons of situations that intensified their relationship, you'd frankly have to be blind not to notice - + Show Spoiler + blind and deaf, actually, the voice acting is goddamn amazing+ Show Spoiler + and when Kirito beat the game and the world was falling apart, the last scene is Asuna and Kirito alone in the clouds, facing what for all they know is their final moment together, hello Whether or not something is a romance, as we'd call it, has little to do with the message of boy meets girl, they get together, blah blah blah, it's much more to do with the details, how their story is told, and what emotions are put into it, which is the big difference between something like SAO, and a typical Shounen. | ||
|
sharkie
Austria18228 Posts
On September 26 2014 22:39 riotjune wrote: Shonens are like the last place you'd look for romance, cause the mangakas are virgins. Got the h dojinshi's for that, and they do it way better. Might as well pretend they're canon *shrug pretty sure Oda is married? ^^ | ||
|
Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On September 29 2014 06:09 NewSunshine wrote: The Aincrad arc was very much a romance, the others to a lesser degree. Sure, the premise of the online death game is cool and all, but everything about the premise created tons of situations that intensified their relationship, you'd frankly have to be blind not to notice - + Show Spoiler + blind and deaf, actually, the voice acting is goddamn amazing+ Show Spoiler + and when Kirito beat the game and the world was falling apart, the last scene is Asuna and Kirito alone in the clouds, facing what for all they know is their final moment together, hello Whether or not something is a romance, as we'd call it, has little to do with the message of boy meets girl, they get together, blah blah blah, it's much more to do with the details, how their story is told, and what emotions are put into it, which is the big difference between something like SAO, and a typical Shounen. No, it was not a romance. Clannad was a romance. Kenichi was not a romance. Watashi nii XX Shinasai is a romance. A romance has the main focus be romance. The point of the story is the romantic relationship between characters. To find out if something is a romance, you look at the plot. SAO was about people being trapped in an MMO and fighting to get out of it. Notice that the word romance isn't in there? Kenichi was about a boy with no talent going through the martial arts world protecting the things important to him. It doesn't matter if him and Miu have chemistry between them, or that they end up together, because that's not the main focus. | ||
|
Sermokala
United States13608 Posts
| ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5870 Posts
On September 29 2014 06:40 Dark_Chill wrote: + Show Spoiler + No, it was not a romance. Clannad was a romance. Kenichi was not a romance. Watashi nii XX Shinasai is a romance. A romance has the main focus be romance. The point of the story is the romantic relationship between characters. To find out if something is a romance, you look at the plot. SAO was about people being trapped in an MMO and fighting to get out of it. Notice that the word romance isn't in there? Kenichi was about a boy with no talent going through the martial arts world protecting the things important to him. It doesn't matter if him and Miu have chemistry between them, or that they end up together, because that's not the main focus. Them fighting to beat the game is the surface plot, his relationship with Asuna is actually a huge focus, and the reason the entire Alfheim arc is a thing. So yeah, I'm sticking with it. | ||
|
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
| ||
|
Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 29 2014 06:40 Dark_Chill wrote: No, it was not a romance. Clannad was a romance. Kenichi was not a romance. Watashi nii XX Shinasai is a romance. A romance has the main focus be romance. The point of the story is the romantic relationship between characters. To find out if something is a romance, you look at the plot. SAO was about people being trapped in an MMO and fighting to get out of it. Notice that the word romance isn't in there? Kenichi was about a boy with no talent going through the martial arts world protecting the things important to him. It doesn't matter if him and Miu have chemistry between them, or that they end up together, because that's not the main focus. nothing fits in one genre you can say that X manga is Y genre but it could also fit under other genres too Kenichi was an action manga it was also a gag and romance because very few manga fir uinder only one title Naruto had pretty much literally 0 romance it had the bare minimum amount fo romance for a manga that had characters of both sex present | ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5870 Posts
On September 29 2014 11:13 BigFan wrote: I wouldn't say SAO is a romance tbh since as Dark_Chill mentioned, Kirito's relationship with Asuna was important but the main focus was getting out of the game. It's true that the Alfheim arc happened due to that relationship but that's also still the whole inside a game, need to escape concept. Is there some light romance? well, they did get married and did some romancy things but it's not a true romance (as in focused only on that, my own definition lol). I would say it had equal focus on both. You can say it's romance or action, because it's really both. A story about a death game could easily be straight action with little attention paid to anything else, but the author uses that premise to tell a strong romantic story too. GGO drifts more fully into the action space though. | ||
|
AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
| ||
|
Eshra
France1009 Posts
| ||
|
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
| ||
| ||
