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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 27 2014 01:55 Xatalos wrote: I already said that it was stupid to include your name there, WOS, so dunno why you would bring it up again. I didn't bring it up from your recent post, those ones were from earlier---but I digress. Xat did you read the stuff I wrote on VA? You don't find it compelling enough to lynch him? What if Onegu gets modkilled? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
Hapa's absence is a bit disturbing (just parking his vote on VA, his weakest(?) scumread, and not really playing after that). Still not enough to lynch him today. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 27 2014 01:59 Xatalos wrote: Yeah it's possible that Onegu will just get modkilled. I'll keep my vote on him for now though to encourage him returning to the thread. He could be just scum/SK lurking and returning to vote close to deadline. Hapa's absence is a bit disturbing (just parking his vote on VA, his weakest(?) scumread, and not really playing after that). Still not enough to lynch him today. Solid. I think if Onegu is going to get modkilled then he will, btw, rather than pull some last-second shenannies. Only person I've ever seen do that is gumshoe. As for Hapa, yes I am as well particularly disturbed by his lack of thread presence actually. There is something I'm looking out for however and there's still a few hours left. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
I'd like all the people who think his claim makes sense in ANY way to revisit what I've said as well. Especially GB who is for all intents and purposes throwing his vote away right now. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
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turtlevine
74 Posts
##vote KSC | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
Then again why wouldn't he claim something a bit more sensible? It feels like the claim is even a bit too bad to be fake (lol). | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:07 turtlevine wrote: ##unvote VA ##vote KSC Don't just sheep GB :/ Why? | ||
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turtlevine
74 Posts
I guess it's just far too probably that VA did this as town. The scum motivation for this kind of move is more likely than the town motivation, but, the claim makes so little sense, I don't see why scum would make this claim instead of another more easily defended one. As scum you'd go for a claim that would protect you, not hurt you. The only reason anyone would claim JOAT with a truly awful action like VA did is if they couldn't claim something else for some reason. Barring, of course, usual stupidities. No, VA is town. We lynch KSC. I *Want* to lynch VA for this, but honestly, why the dicks would scum claim such an awful role use? Scum could claim *anything*. The only reason you'd claim something so awful and obviously attention-drawing would be if it was the only thing you could claim, because it's true. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Both of you. Like, for shit's sake you even say yourself turtle that the scum motivation is more likely than the town, and instead you sheep GB for his terrible reasons? | ||
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turtlevine
74 Posts
People like making a show of competence and virtue. They loudly declare that they use logic and reason to lynch people, that these things are the best. People strut around showing off their reasons and denying those of us who use our guts, each person one-upping the other, claiming their allegiance to the broken system like politicians each claiming to be more folksy than the last. It rings false to me. "Too scummy to be scum" DOES exist. Something about this VA lynch has been gnawing at my gut all day, some intuition is telling me that we're not lynching scum here. It's a certain sense of unease resting on me, and it tells me that we shouldn't lynch him. People agree with me. It's true. You all know that something is wrong about this lynch, but you want to appear logical. You're afraid to go with your gut, because if you're wrong, how can you defend yourself in the post game? IF you use logic and fail, you can blame VA or whoever. But if you use your gut and fail, you look silly. I have no fear of looking silly. All I want is to win. I don't care about the post game. Don't play that game. Play this one. Lynch KSC. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:21 turtlevine wrote: Our goal isn't to punish bad behavior or lynch people for making bad plays. Our goal is to lynch scum. You can say "this guy's play is bad and we should punish him for it", but that's not what we're trying to do here. Policy lynching is stupid. People like saying 'Too scummy to be scum'. People like making a show of competence and virtue. They loudly declare that they use logic and reason to lynch people, that these things are the best. People strut around showing off their reasons and denying those of us who use our guts, each person one-upping the other, claiming their allegiance to the broken system like politicians each claiming to be more folksy than the last. It rings false to me. "Too scummy to be scum" DOES exist. Something about this VA lynch has been gnawing at my gut all day, some intuition is telling me that we're not lynching scum here. It's a certain sense of unease resting on me, and it tells me that we shouldn't lynch him. People agree with me. It's true. You all know that something is wrong about this lynch, but you want to appear logical. You're afraid to go with your gut, because if you're wrong, how can you defend yourself in the post game? IF you use logic and fail, you can blame VA or whoever. But if you use your gut and fail, you look silly. I have no fear of looking silly. All I want is to win. I don't care about the post game. Don't play that game. Play this one. Lynch KSC. And now I know for sure you're not reading the game at all. How in the fuck do you get from my posting on VA that I'm policy lynching him for being stupid? WHY SHOULD WE BE LYNCHING KSC? Do you even KNOW your partner's reasons? Done with you. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:21 turtlevine wrote: Our goal isn't to punish bad behavior or lynch people for making bad plays. Our goal is to lynch scum. You can say "this guy's play is bad and we should punish him for it", but that's not what we're trying to do here. Policy lynching is stupid. People like saying 'Too scummy to be scum'. People like making a show of competence and virtue. They loudly declare that they use logic and reason to lynch people, that these things are the best. People strut around showing off their reasons and denying those of us who use our guts, each person one-upping the other, claiming their allegiance to the broken system like politicians each claiming to be more folksy than the last. It rings false to me. "Too scummy to be scum" DOES exist. Something about this VA lynch has been gnawing at my gut all day, some intuition is telling me that we're not lynching scum here. It's a certain sense of unease resting on me, and it tells me that we shouldn't lynch him. People agree with me. It's true. You all know that something is wrong about this lynch, but you want to appear logical. You're afraid to go with your gut, because if you're wrong, how can you defend yourself in the post game? IF you use logic and fail, you can blame VA or whoever. But if you use your gut and fail, you look silly. I have no fear of looking silly. All I want is to win. I don't care about the post game. Don't play that game. Play this one. Lynch KSC. you haven't explained at all why I am scum. | ||
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turtlevine
74 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:25 WaveofShadow wrote: And now I know for sure you're not reading the game at all. How in the fuck do you get from my posting on VA that I'm policy lynching him for being stupid? WHY SHOULD WE BE LYNCHING KSC? Do you even KNOW your partner's reasons? Done with you. I'm saying that you're claiming to be lynching VA for good reasons, but you're mostly doing it because 1) youre KSC's scumbuddy (this is one prevailing theory in the mason qt), or 2) you're too tied up by your show of logical thinking to realize that VA is town. You can apologize to me after KSC flips scum. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:28 turtlevine wrote: I'm saying that you're claiming to be lynching VA for good reasons, but you're mostly doing it because 1) youre KSC's scumbuddy (this is one prevailing theory in the mason qt), or 2) you're too tied up by your show of logical thinking to realize that VA is town. You can apologize to me after KSC flips scum. You realise that GB's "analysis" was absolutely terrible, if you can point to something that was actually scummy I will dispute it but you are just posting nonsense about polticians and your "gut" honestly you just haven't been reading the thread at all. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:28 turtlevine wrote: I'm saying that you're claiming to be lynching VA for good reasons, but you're mostly doing it because 1) youre KSC's scumbuddy (this is one prevailing theory in the mason qt), or 2) you're too tied up by your show of logical thinking to realize that VA is town. You can apologize to me after KSC flips scum. So of all of the people in the thread, you've picked me and KSC as top two scum choices. lol G fucking G can't even begin to deal with this level of stupid. Like...you're essentially ignoring everything everyone has said, screaming KSC is scum, expecting people to follow you FOR NO REASON and most importantly, CALLING ME SCUM FOR ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME WHEN YOU'RE NOT. liuegraeibvtyruywa;oetihgae;rgiobakiolgba;jrkEGB | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Please somebody else come into the thread right now and tell me I'm not fucking crazy | ||
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turtlevine
74 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:36 turtlevine wrote: OK, let's not focus on my KSC vote right now, let's pretend I'm not voting KSC. My reason for unvoting VA is fine, right? something was gnawing at you apparently, is that the reason? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
It's like if I replaced into a game on D3, only knowing that I was town, wrote a bunch of names on paper and threw darts at them and said 'HERE SCUM HURR DURR' Like why the fuck should I or anyone else listen to you? Simply because you're town? lol maybe you can get KSC to lynch himself that way because the heuristic seems to work for him. | ||
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