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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium4469 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:37 Shiznick wrote: dyrus is a liability, tbh. if the player who's supposed to be the "rock" of your team is liable to choking in high pressure situations, it is no bueno. This isn't Dyrus' fault at all lol, this is just a huge misplay on TSM as whole. They could all see Mao couldn't kill off the Nasus after minute 30, yet they keep setting him up against the dog. They just played extremely bad against the splitpush. | ||
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
kda doesnt matter yo | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:37 sung_moon wrote: I didn't watch beginning of game (came in like 20 minutes in), but how is this game Dyrus's fault? Only noticeable mistake I witnessed he committed was tp'ing with like 1/5th health to try and stop a full HP Nasus. Seems like TSM was too chicken shit to do anything but pick off Kiwikid. He absolutely threw a dragon when TSM had a better position on the pit by going in Yolo by himself and just dying.while the rest of his team watched. Clearly no call was made, he just went in and died. | ||
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Shiznick
United States2200 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:39 Uldridge wrote: This isn't Dyrus' fault at all lol, this is just a huge misplay on TSM as whole. They could all see Mao couldn't kill off the Nasus after minute 30, yet they keep setting him up against the dog. They just played extremely bad against the splitpush. he literally made a game losing play by tping back w/ 250 hp. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:39 Uldridge wrote: This isn't Dyrus' fault at all lol, this is just a huge misplay on TSM as whole. They could all see Mao couldn't kill off the Nasus after minute 30, yet they keep setting him up against the dog. They just played extremely bad against the splitpush. It is dyrus's fault. It's his job to use teleport and find team fights, not to teleport in after a team fight has already started. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:37 sung_moon wrote: I didn't watch beginning of game (came in like 20 minutes in), but how is this game Dyrus's fault? Only noticeable mistake I witnessed he committed was tp'ing with like 1/5th health to try and stop a full HP Nasus. Seems like TSM was too chicken shit to do anything but pick off Kiwikid. Honestly, if you're way more experienced than all your teammates combined but Lustboy and you can't call "I'm teleporting with homeguards, we're killing Ziggs instantly", then it's your fault. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:37 sung_moon wrote: I didn't watch beginning of game (came in like 20 minutes in), but how is this game Dyrus's fault? Only noticeable mistake I witnessed he committed was tp'ing with like 1/5th health to try and stop a full HP Nasus. Seems like TSM was too chicken shit to do anything but pick off Kiwikid. He played pretty scared and spent a bunch of time trying to stop Nasus from pushing the wave then tanking him and the towers to kill them (wasn't necessarily his fault though, it's a weakness of Maokai and probably a team call). There was also a point where he W'd onto Kiwikid during a dragon stand-off, with Dignitas split in 3 (and notably Crumbzz on TSM's side of the map and not close enough to join instantly). Maybe miscommunication, TSM went the other way, he died 1v3, and Dig won the fight and the drake. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium4469 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:39 Shiznick wrote: he literally made a game losing play by tping back w/ 250 hp. If he didn't do that the game would've been over even faster. It was the best thing he could've done in that situation. | ||
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Neverhood
United States5388 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:39 Shiznick wrote: he literally made a game losing play by tping back w/ 250 hp. Nothing he could do at that point lol, Zion just kills the base faster if he didn't tp. Most of the blame that game goes to TSM's shotcaller which I believe is bjergsen. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
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templar rage
United States2509 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:43 Lonyo wrote: The difference between winning and losing was 41hp. If Dyrus had managed one or two more auto attacks then Nasus would have been dead. Or if Amazing had hit his first Q, he would have killed Nasus as well. This game isn't all on Dyrus at all, it's the entire team's fault. | ||
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Shiznick
United States2200 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:42 Uldridge wrote: If he didn't do that the game would've been over even faster. It was the best thing he could've done in that situation. no, he could have teleported back, went to fountain, homeguarded and with lee sin, zionspartan would have died. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4469 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:40 Itsmedudeman wrote: It is dyrus's fault. It's his job to use teleport and find team fights, not to teleport in after a team fight has already started. But nasus got to a point, i don't know if you've watched the game closely but he could 3 shot a turret. No way that they can win a fight, recall, or even win in time for it to be ever worth it. The Nasoos just got completely out of control and the ENTIRETY of TSM played it wrong. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
In any case, Dig has a huge advantage with Red side all bo5 since it puts them mentally ahead, and TSM a bit on the back foot knowing Zion has other split pushers in his arsenal. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium4469 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:44 Shiznick wrote: no, he could have teleported back, went to fountain, homeguarded and with lee sin, zionspartan would have died. Guy. He was going back the the fountain. Nasus flashed, withered, spirit fired and q'd him to death. Do you actually think Dyrus was trying to hold off a Nasus with 250 hp? | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:45 las91 wrote: I don't understand the Dyrus flame, if you're going to 4-1 against a superior split in Nasus you actually have to go around forcing other objectives on the map which TSM basically did not do from about 35 minutes on. Amazing is the biggest liability of the team in my opinion, he can only play Lee Sin, and that game he was pretty much ineffective/not needed since Bjerg made most of the real plays anyway. He also missed a Baron smite that was clearly not well communicated within the team, they have to have better shot calling. In any case, Dig has a huge advantage with Red side all bo5 since it puts them mentally ahead, and TSM a bit on the back foot knowing Zion has other split pushers in his arsenal. All of TSM played poorly. Bjergsen always blew his ulti on Kiwi who was a non-factor in the game. They kept killing him and doing absolutely nothing with it. Lustboy/Turtle I have no idea if they played well or not. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On August 24 2014 05:48 Numy wrote: All of TSM played poorly. Bjergsen always blew his ulti on Kiwi who was a non-factor in the game. They kept killing him and doing absolutely nothing with it. Lustboy/Turtle I have no idea if they played well or not. Turtle got outfarmed when he was 2v2 against Nasus/Thresh, so he's playing as shitty as he usually does. (when Corki was 1v1 against Maokai) Lustboy did nothing, rushed Mikael's against a no stun 4v4 instead of Talisman which would have given them some semblance of catch potential. | ||
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