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On April 08 2014 05:39 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote:On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA! My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role. No, different thoughts. If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period? As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense. He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up. This is the "It's scummy to do scummy things as scum, so scum wouldn't do scummy things" argument. It is usually a mafia argument, and often mafia defending mafia
Dude, what are you even saying? Do you think Greymist used a bunch of different colors cause he felt like making the game prettier?
If your answer is yes, then enjoy your stay in lala land
If not, there's a reasoning. I think HF argument on the blue vs green was terrible. Why does HF care if he's mafia? You even called it a slip. If HF is mafia, how does he know who is 3p and who is town. He doesn't even have the info.
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On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum
break down the scenario for me
like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?
it doesn't make sense because
A) if i was mafia, i wouldn't have that same notion that "blue's might be 3p in this game because it doesn't say they are town" unless my pm was phrased similarly
B) there is no mafia reasoning at all other than jat bringing up stuff about "in my pm it says about winning with town" which also applies to what i thought was 3p role pm's (op says about 3p's winning with town etc.)
so in no position does anything i've said imply that i've slipped up or anything, just that i was wrong about the colour blue and them being town/3p which has nothing to do with being mafia regardless
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On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum
break down the scenario for me
like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that? It's maybe a combo. He's a person I've been suspicious of, so start from a suspicious mindset if you're trying to be in my head.
(1) There's something that might be a slip (does not know how town role PMs are phrased). It MIGHT be a weird thought from town.
(2) When trying to explain the thing in (1), he says things that are not true (Keirathi' and Gumshoe's role PMs say they're town and not that they win with town ---> this is false). Saying things that are untrue is more likely to be mafia than town, means it's more likely a slip than a weird thought, because a townie having a weird thought doesn't use untruths to substantiate his weird thoughts.
(3) Continues to argue that the statement from (1) is a weird thought from a townie, by saying- I cannot be mafia, because it would be dumb for mafia to have my role and claim it.
- I assumed all the people with "win with the town" were 3P
(4) The FIRST bit there, that he can't be mafia because of the claim, is not of any value. It's clear from THIS GAME that when you claim dimensional lemming, not everyone thinks you're mafia. This is important because HOLY CRAP HE'S THE DIMENSIONAL LEMMING HIMSELF, HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACTED TO HIS CLAIM, AND THEREFORE HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACT TO A CLAIM, AND IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE'S SAYING. Does that make sense? He is implying he's town because mafia would do what he's done, because x would happen. We all KNOW x wouldn't happen, so his argument is just based on a falsehood.
The SECOND bit there requires him assuming at least 5-6 third parties in this game. Which I think is ridiculous, and cannot be a legitimate thought he had.
Because of (2), him using untruths to try and show how his thought was townie and not a mafia slip, and because of (4), how his further comments are nonsensical coming from a townie/being real thoughts, and HF is not normally a person to just hold a bunch of nonsensical thoughts, it looks more like he's making things up to try and make his comment look more like a dumb comment than a slip.
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On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum
break down the scenario for me
like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?
How I see this:
HolyFlare didn't know how a town rolepm looked like. He was called out for that, paniced and came up with this ridiculous explanation of how he thought he was 3p and all the other people who flipped blue too because he felt caught.
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On April 08 2014 04:53 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote:
why we care so much about HF. His list looks pretty good.
He is not lynch material except if he stole this list from people who were going to bring this list public really soonish and HF just posted it fast for town cred.
I am lynching many peoples on the list before HF tbh. His list is bad and is the "people not voting" list. There are a number of folks on there who are unlikely to be mafia. The kita/foolishness list, modified in a couple ways, is better (drop syllo for his scum claim, drop poofter for being dead, drop amiko for the syllo bit)
On April 08 2014 05:31 austinmcc wrote:Well, for one, everyone is green and apparently there was a big difference between green and blue in your mind  I would color JAT townie. He's on the right track here, he looked alright to me previously. The only hesitation is him not wanting a syllo shot and then being perfectly fine with syllo as a lynch option, but he can go to the bottom of a townpile, as I was townie myself on syllo D1 (although I didn't flop from townie --> good lynch like JAT seems to have (before the whole visitation and poofter check junk). I color poofter only slightly less town, not as a lynch for today, but to follow his checks and make sure he's doing what he says he's doing. Syllo is a very visible player, and became SUPER visible today. If scum think they're going to lose him soonish no matter what, and poofter looks iffy, he's fine to say he's got a red check on syllo.I would color rayn honorary red for killing a townie. I think I like that WoS read, not sure on that hopeless one.
why did you say the list was bad but then change exactly 1 thing..............? so then the list is in fact good?
you also mention poofter is dying today but then say he isn't to be trusted not long after? wut
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On April 08 2014 05:42 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:39 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote:On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA! My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role. No, different thoughts. If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period? As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense. He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up. This is the "It's scummy to do scummy things as scum, so scum wouldn't do scummy things" argument. It is usually a mafia argument, and often mafia defending mafia Dude, what are you even saying? Do you think Greymist used a bunch of different colors cause he felt like making the game prettier? If your answer is yes, then enjoy your stay in lala land If not, there's a reasoning. I think HF argument on the blue vs green was terrible. Why does HF care if he's mafia? You even called it a slip. If HF is mafia, how does he know who is 3p and who is town. He doesn't even have the info. I am saying you look scummier for that comment.
"As scum, it's a bad idea to do something that makes you look bad. Therefore, someone who does something that makes him look bad is town."
That is GENERALLY a mafia argument when I've seen it. Within the last week it has been used by mafia to defend a scumbuddy on this forum.
Like, fill in some proper names there. "As scum, it'a a bad idea to do something that makes you look bad. Therefore, Holyflare is town because he did something that made him look bad (this argument)." Within that statement, you're saying HolyFlare did something that looked bad. Otherwise the "scum wouldn't do things that look bad" argument is inapplicable, you HAVE to have done something that looked bad for it to be a relevant argument.
But you just push that aside entirely and give some silliness about how he can't have info on 3Ps or would be paranoid or would know that "wins with the town" = TEH ENEMIEZ
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On April 08 2014 05:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 04:53 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote:
why we care so much about HF. His list looks pretty good.
He is not lynch material except if he stole this list from people who were going to bring this list public really soonish and HF just posted it fast for town cred.
I am lynching many peoples on the list before HF tbh. His list is bad and is the "people not voting" list. There are a number of folks on there who are unlikely to be mafia. The kita/foolishness list, modified in a couple ways, is better (drop syllo for his scum claim, drop poofter for being dead, drop amiko for the syllo bit) Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:31 austinmcc wrote:Well, for one, everyone is green and apparently there was a big difference between green and blue in your mind I would color JAT townie. He's on the right track here, he looked alright to me previously. The only hesitation is him not wanting a syllo shot and then being perfectly fine with syllo as a lynch option, but he can go to the bottom of a townpile, as I was townie myself on syllo D1 (although I didn't flop from townie --> good lynch like JAT seems to have (before the whole visitation and poofter check junk). I color poofter only slightly less town, not as a lynch for today, but to follow his checks and make sure he's doing what he says he's doing. Syllo is a very visible player, and became SUPER visible today. If scum think they're going to lose him soonish no matter what, and poofter looks iffy, he's fine to say he's got a red check on syllo.I would color rayn honorary red for killing a townie. I think I like that WoS read, not sure on that hopeless one. why did you say the list was bad but then change exactly 1 thing..............? so then the list is in fact good? you also mention poofter is dying today but then say he isn't to be trusted not long after? wut You made the list comment right after this: On April 08 2014 03:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +Not voting (10): IAmRobik, LSB, austinmcc, iamperfection, strongandbig, Palmar, Djodref, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, sandroba these people need to sort their shit out On April 08 2014 03:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
I won't discuss this with you any further. It leads nowhere and I got the feeling that you are being dense on purpose. who really cares, i've given you a list, you are arguing about numbers not the people on the list, your point is irrelevant to the game
See the first comment. When I'm responding at the top there, the "list" i thought Koshi was talking about was the list of not votings. There were two lists, one you made, one that was in the votecount and had just been mentioned.
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On April 08 2014 05:47 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum
break down the scenario for me
like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that? It's maybe a combo. He's a person I've been suspicious of, so start from a suspicious mindset if you're trying to be in my head. (1) There's something that might be a slip (does not know how town role PMs are phrased). It MIGHT be a weird thought from town. (2) When trying to explain the thing in (1), he says things that are not true (Keirathi' and Gumshoe's role PMs say they're town and not that they win with town ---> this is false). Saying things that are untrue is more likely to be mafia than town, means it's more likely a slip than a weird thought, because a townie having a weird thought doesn't use untruths to substantiate his weird thoughts. (3) Continues to argue that the statement from (1) is a weird thought from a townie, by saying - I cannot be mafia, because it would be dumb for mafia to have my role and claim it.
- I assumed all the people with "win with the town" were 3P
(4) The FIRST bit there, that he can't be mafia because of the claim, is not of any value. It's clear from THIS GAME that when you claim dimensional lemming, not everyone thinks you're mafia. This is important because HOLY CRAP HE'S THE DIMENSIONAL LEMMING HIMSELF, HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACTED TO HIS CLAIM, AND THEREFORE HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACT TO A CLAIM, AND IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE'S SAYING. Does that make sense? He is implying he's town because mafia would do what he's done, because x would happen. We all KNOW x wouldn't happen, so his argument is just based on a falsehood. The SECOND bit there requires him assuming at least 5-6 third parties in this game. Which I think is ridiculous, and cannot be a legitimate thought he had. Because of (2), him using untruths to try and show how his thought was townie and not a mafia slip, and because of (4), how his further comments are nonsensical coming from a townie/being real thoughts, and HF is not normally a person to just hold a bunch of nonsensical thoughts, it looks more like he's making things up to try and make his comment look more like a dumb comment than a slip.
this is getting hilarious
1) not a slip, mafia would know about blues and greens being town and not 3p
2) keirathi and gumshoe are green with powers (which confirmed my point in my mind) and come from a point in time of the game where i wasn't really paying attention like i've stated multiple times in the game
3/4) if the only precedent is that dimensional lemming is a mafia role then yes, it is retarded for mafia to start claiming dimensional lemming on day 1 (how can i predict the future of what people are going to say...?)
this whole thing is retarded from jat/austin and it's why i'm not really sure why i trust people's reads of them! like, whatever if you don't believe me i don't care, you can lynch me at some point when things start not adding up or check me or do whatever?
i've told you my side of the story, you've said yours, there's literally 0 need to keep hammering on about it and making it a big deal because people know the information! i've given you a list which you called bad but you agree with all of it, why is that?
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On April 08 2014 05:47 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum
break down the scenario for me
like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that? It's maybe a combo. He's a person I've been suspicious of, so start from a suspicious mindset if you're trying to be in my head. (1) There's something that might be a slip (does not know how town role PMs are phrased). It MIGHT be a weird thought from town. (2) When trying to explain the thing in (1), he says things that are not true (Keirathi' and Gumshoe's role PMs say they're town and not that they win with town ---> this is false). Saying things that are untrue is more likely to be mafia than town, means it's more likely a slip than a weird thought, because a townie having a weird thought doesn't use untruths to substantiate his weird thoughts. (3) Continues to argue that the statement from (1) is a weird thought from a townie, by saying - I cannot be mafia, because it would be dumb for mafia to have my role and claim it.
- I assumed all the people with "win with the town" were 3P
(4) The FIRST bit there, that he can't be mafia because of the claim, is not of any value. It's clear from THIS GAME that when you claim dimensional lemming, not everyone thinks you're mafia. This is important because HOLY CRAP HE'S THE DIMENSIONAL LEMMING HIMSELF, HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACTED TO HIS CLAIM, AND THEREFORE HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACT TO A CLAIM, AND IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE'S SAYING. Does that make sense? He is implying he's town because mafia would do what he's done, because x would happen. We all KNOW x wouldn't happen, so his argument is just based on a falsehood. The SECOND bit there requires him assuming at least 5-6 third parties in this game. Which I think is ridiculous, and cannot be a legitimate thought he had. Because of (2), him using untruths to try and show how his thought was townie and not a mafia slip, and because of (4), how his further comments are nonsensical coming from a townie/being real thoughts, and HF is not normally a person to just hold a bunch of nonsensical thoughts, it looks more like he's making things up to try and make his comment look more like a dumb comment than a slip.
Do you have any theories over the color difference?
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nvm about the end you've answered it
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On April 05 2014 07:13 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 07:11 marvellosity wrote:
effectively amiko has made a quite weird 3p read on Robik.
and for some reason i kinda trust kita. Maybe I'm a 3p and don't know it? I do know that I win with the town so either way. I'm a good guy <--- RIP Rayn
So like, I thought the HF stuff was weird, but his reaction (minus the weird way he's defending himself) is similar to mine and I'm blue.
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On April 08 2014 05:56 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:47 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum
break down the scenario for me
like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that? It's maybe a combo. He's a person I've been suspicious of, so start from a suspicious mindset if you're trying to be in my head. (1) There's something that might be a slip (does not know how town role PMs are phrased). It MIGHT be a weird thought from town. (2) When trying to explain the thing in (1), he says things that are not true (Keirathi' and Gumshoe's role PMs say they're town and not that they win with town ---> this is false). Saying things that are untrue is more likely to be mafia than town, means it's more likely a slip than a weird thought, because a townie having a weird thought doesn't use untruths to substantiate his weird thoughts. (3) Continues to argue that the statement from (1) is a weird thought from a townie, by saying - I cannot be mafia, because it would be dumb for mafia to have my role and claim it.
- I assumed all the people with "win with the town" were 3P
(4) The FIRST bit there, that he can't be mafia because of the claim, is not of any value. It's clear from THIS GAME that when you claim dimensional lemming, not everyone thinks you're mafia. This is important because HOLY CRAP HE'S THE DIMENSIONAL LEMMING HIMSELF, HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACTED TO HIS CLAIM, AND THEREFORE HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACT TO A CLAIM, AND IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE'S SAYING. Does that make sense? He is implying he's town because mafia would do what he's done, because x would happen. We all KNOW x wouldn't happen, so his argument is just based on a falsehood. The SECOND bit there requires him assuming at least 5-6 third parties in this game. Which I think is ridiculous, and cannot be a legitimate thought he had. Because of (2), him using untruths to try and show how his thought was townie and not a mafia slip, and because of (4), how his further comments are nonsensical coming from a townie/being real thoughts, and HF is not normally a person to just hold a bunch of nonsensical thoughts, it looks more like he's making things up to try and make his comment look more like a dumb comment than a slip. Do you have any theories over the color difference? My theory is that it doesn't matter
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On April 08 2014 06:02 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 05:56 Killing wrote:On April 08 2014 05:47 austinmcc wrote:On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum
break down the scenario for me
like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that? It's maybe a combo. He's a person I've been suspicious of, so start from a suspicious mindset if you're trying to be in my head. (1) There's something that might be a slip (does not know how town role PMs are phrased). It MIGHT be a weird thought from town. (2) When trying to explain the thing in (1), he says things that are not true (Keirathi' and Gumshoe's role PMs say they're town and not that they win with town ---> this is false). Saying things that are untrue is more likely to be mafia than town, means it's more likely a slip than a weird thought, because a townie having a weird thought doesn't use untruths to substantiate his weird thoughts. (3) Continues to argue that the statement from (1) is a weird thought from a townie, by saying - I cannot be mafia, because it would be dumb for mafia to have my role and claim it.
- I assumed all the people with "win with the town" were 3P
(4) The FIRST bit there, that he can't be mafia because of the claim, is not of any value. It's clear from THIS GAME that when you claim dimensional lemming, not everyone thinks you're mafia. This is important because HOLY CRAP HE'S THE DIMENSIONAL LEMMING HIMSELF, HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACTED TO HIS CLAIM, AND THEREFORE HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACT TO A CLAIM, AND IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE'S SAYING. Does that make sense? He is implying he's town because mafia would do what he's done, because x would happen. We all KNOW x wouldn't happen, so his argument is just based on a falsehood. The SECOND bit there requires him assuming at least 5-6 third parties in this game. Which I think is ridiculous, and cannot be a legitimate thought he had. Because of (2), him using untruths to try and show how his thought was townie and not a mafia slip, and because of (4), how his further comments are nonsensical coming from a townie/being real thoughts, and HF is not normally a person to just hold a bunch of nonsensical thoughts, it looks more like he's making things up to try and make his comment look more like a dumb comment than a slip. Do you have any theories over the color difference? My theory is that it doesn't matter Also I suppose I should present evidence to support this theory.
In Aperture 1 - There were green and blue roles. Both were town. There was no difference.
Aperture 2 and Chrono Trigger both had just blues. You get no links.
I don't remember other Greymist games off the top of my head, someone else might.
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I've never played nor read a greymist game hence my confusion and only knowing about lemming from the award thread. Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1
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On April 08 2014 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've never played nor read a greymist game hence my confusion and only knowing about lemming from the award thread. Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1 That is mainly in response to Killing asking me what my "theory" about the color difference is.
Also, I will continue to maintain that you DID talk about your role D1. Just look at my first posts. I was pretty confident you were EXACTLY what you're claiming to be, because who asks those questions repeatedly. The only reason anyone would ask about fun past games, or neat mechanics, is because they've got that role or a similar role.
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I'd kill Killing.
Townies defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but this case is different because of x, y, z" or "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but I think these other things he's done are townie, and overall he's townie." Scum defend people who do scummy stuff by saying "He did a thing that's normally scummy, but scum don't like being scummy, so him doing a scummy thing makes him town." (BECAUSE HOLY CRAP THE MOMENT YOU MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ONCE, EVERYONE IN THE GAME EVER WHO DOES SCUMMY STUFF IS KINDA TOWN IN YOUR BOOK AND THAT MAKES NO SENSE)
On April 03 2014 12:05 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 11:59 sandroba wrote:
I don't think any button discussion is going to get us anywhere. How about we see what people decide to do and talk about it when it becomes relevant? My initial guess is most of us don't want CATASTROPHE in our lives right now. You're assuming the catastrophe will be town specific. It's possible that it makes the game harder for mafia and 3p at the same time. I think we also have to put some value on the button. We need to know how important it is to have it guarded or try to deactivate it compared to using our town powers. It might be that it's better to have weaker roles guard the button rather than carry out their business. If we don't make a plan to deal with the button, mafia might just make a rush for it if they assume the consequences will fall on the town side. Here, Killing is of the mindset that perhaps that Catastrophe is good for town. This is true, we don't know what the Catastrophe is, and whether it's good or bad.
On April 07 2014 08:48 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2014 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On April 07 2014 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:On April 07 2014 08:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dunno, I pushed the button zz did you forget that was an option? I need CATASTROPHE™ to occur if I'm going to make any money. So you're not town......... Here, Hopeless is not town because he wants Catastrophe to happen. Implying that Catastrophe is bad for town only.
Which is the opposite of the above. We have learned nothing about Catastrophe, are entirely unsure what it does. Killing argues that it MIGHT be beneficial to town, perhaps, but then that Hopeless is scum for wanting it to happen.
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On April 08 2014 06:28 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2014 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've never played nor read a greymist game hence my confusion and only knowing about lemming from the award thread. Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1 That is mainly in response to Killing asking me what my "theory" about the color difference is. Also, I will continue to maintain that you DID talk about your role D1. Just look at my first posts. I was pretty confident you were EXACTLY what you're claiming to be, because who asks those questions repeatedly. The only reason anyone would ask about fun past games, or neat mechanics, is because they've got that role or a similar role.
What...? I'm saying i DID talk about it how are you being so dense. I am saying that it proves I'm not mafia because if i was mafia i got a traditionally mafia sided role and then started talking about it in thread straight away which would be suicide. That does not add up at all!
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