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Age and Reaction Speed Decline. A StarCraft Study.

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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-05 23:42:35
January 05 2025 23:15 GMT
#1
https://www.madmonq.gg/reaction-time/

This study was done in SC2 specifically.


To better understand the relationship between age and reaction time, the Simon Fraser team based their research on Starcraft 2 players of different age groups and analyzed their “looking-doing latencies” – the time between seeing and responding.

The reason Starcraft 2 was used for the case study is simple; it’s hard and very complex.

To excel at this particular game, you need lightning-fast reflexes, a memory like a steel trap, and to be capable of comfortably managing and predicting several strategies at once.

Put simply, it’s a hyperactive, laser-focused form of future chess.

And well… you guessed it: the older the player, the slower the player – a fact which only gets more true with age.


They found that a 39-year-old elite player (GM?) was about 150 milliseconds slower per action than a 24-year-old counterpart, giving the younger player roughly a 30-second advantage over 15 minutes of gameplay.

Now you’re probably thinking: Thirty seconds over 15 minutes? That’s nothing, right?

Well… some elite players are capable of a staggering 10 actions per second, meaning that half a minute in real-time gameplay is… how to put this… yuuuuge!
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PremoBeats
Profile Joined March 2024
272 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-06 07:46:22
January 06 2025 07:42 GMT
#2
Interesting... I made an analysis based on actual results which I will post soon (how different players from the 2013-2015 prime StarCraft era fared a couple years later when Reynor and Serral became big). There, the actual difference doesn't seem to be that high or players were even able to counter age-specific declines in reaction time with experience or other metrics. I did it to answer some counter-arguments that were made in response to my GOAT list.
Also, if we look at HSC26 GuMiho, now aged 32, beat the probably fastest player of all time in two series (1 off-racing though). This is in accordance with what I found in my analysis, so I think the practical implications aren't that high.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17628 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-06 08:01:12
January 06 2025 08:00 GMT
#3
On January 06 2025 16:42 PremoBeats wrote:
Interesting... I made an analysis based on actual results which I will post soon (how different players from the 2013-2015 prime StarCraft era fared a couple years later when Reynor and Serral became big). There, the actual difference doesn't seem to be that high or players were even able to counter age-specific declines in reaction time with experience or other metrics. I did it to answer some counter-arguments that were made in response to my GOAT list.
Also, if we look at HSC26 GuMiho, now aged 32, beat the probably fastest player of all time in two series (1 off-racing though). This is in accordance with what I found in my analysis, so I think the practical implications aren't that high.

Just because an older player beat a younger player doesn't mean any of this is invalid. Gumiho might've played even better if he had the reaction time that he used to have when he was younger. This is just about reaction time, not overall skill.
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PremoBeats
Profile Joined March 2024
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Last Edited: 2025-01-06 10:53:24
January 06 2025 10:32 GMT
#4
On January 06 2025 17:00 Die4Ever wrote:
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On January 06 2025 16:42 PremoBeats wrote:
Interesting... I made an analysis based on actual results which I will post soon (how different players from the 2013-2015 prime StarCraft era fared a couple years later when Reynor and Serral became big). There, the actual difference doesn't seem to be that high or players were even able to counter age-specific declines in reaction time with experience or other metrics. I did it to answer some counter-arguments that were made in response to my GOAT list.
Also, if we look at HSC26 GuMiho, now aged 32, beat the probably fastest player of all time in two series (1 off-racing though). This is in accordance with what I found in my analysis, so I think the practical implications aren't that high.

Just because an older player beat a younger player doesn't mean any of this is invalid. Gumiho might've played even better if he had the reaction time that he used to have when he was younger. This is just about reaction time, not overall skill.


Agreed. And I do not think that the study is invalidated by a match or two nor did I write that. I wrote that the practical implications are probably not that high, as there might be other metrics to make up for the slower reaction time.
My analysis showed that a higher age does not necessarily correlate with lower win rates versus top players or general win rates.
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