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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 07 2014 20:22 GMT
#3701
look austin honestly i'm not going to defend myself anymore, i've got scum to find and you can shoot me or lynch me or do whatever you want with me if there's doubt in your mind, i don't care! i wasn't invested in this game over the weekend so everything i checked was just blurs on my phone while i was out

On April 08 2014 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand



this is my updated list
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 07 2014 20:24 GMT
#3702
i know how it always is and all those games said you are a town X if you were blue so i assumed this game was different, oh the humanity!

tell me what's wrong in my list if you think "it's bad" like you've stated and when i flip town you can be accountable for your reads
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 07 2014 20:28 GMT
#3703
On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!


My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
April 07 2014 20:29 GMT
#3704
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced


Is this me!?!?!?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 07 2014 20:29 GMT
#3705
depends on the colour of your role

what is the colour of your role
A backwards poet writes inverse.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:31 GMT
#3706
Well, for one, everyone is green and apparently there was a big difference between green and blue in your mind

I would color JAT townie. He's on the right track here, he looked alright to me previously. The only hesitation is him not wanting a syllo shot and then being perfectly fine with syllo as a lynch option, but he can go to the bottom of a townpile, as I was townie myself on syllo D1 (although I didn't flop from townie --> good lynch like JAT seems to have (before the whole visitation and poofter check junk).

I color poofter only slightly less town, not as a lynch for today, but to follow his checks and make sure he's doing what he says he's doing. Syllo is a very visible player, and became SUPER visible today. If scum think they're going to lose him soonish no matter what, and poofter looks iffy, he's fine to say he's got a red check on syllo.

I would color rayn honorary red for killing a townie.

I think I like that WoS read, not sure on that hopeless one.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:32 GMT
#3707
On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!


My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role.
No, different thoughts.

If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period?
Fe fi fo fum.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 07 2014 20:32 GMT
#3708
On April 08 2014 04:36 LSB wrote:
I apologize for being inactive, I've been really busy. I need to get some sleep x.x

##Vote: syllogism

DT Claim, scummy, playing much more passively than before, I don't think I've seen a read in his filter last time I checked.



. . . . . . .
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 07 2014 20:32 GMT
#3709
If people have the same win cond as me, I want to work with them.
If they don't, then I want to lynch them.

On April 08 2014 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand



I'm pretty good with that list except:

1. I'm not town on austin but I don't have the info that you claim to have.
2. I'm not town on snb, I don't really have a good read on him. I can't even recall a lot of what he has said, hasn't really stuck out.
3. Same with WoS but I'm leaning town on him.
4. I'm not town on HF but the going full crazy over blue green reads townie to me imo. If I was mafia, I wouldn't argue about color for 3 pages.
5. Paperscraps could be colored as green. I've probably spoken to him the most during the pm phase.

Rest is coool
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 07 2014 20:33 GMT
#3710
Didn't poof claim 1-shot DT?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
April 07 2014 20:34 GMT
#3711
On April 08 2014 05:32 Killing wrote:
If people have the same win cond as me, I want to work with them.
If they don't, then I want to lynch them.

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand



I'm pretty good with that list except:

1. I'm not town on austin but I don't have the info that you claim to have.
2. I'm not town on snb, I don't really have a good read on him. I can't even recall a lot of what he has said, hasn't really stuck out.
3. Same with WoS but I'm leaning town on him.
4. I'm not town on HF but the going full crazy over blue green reads townie to me imo. If I was mafia, I wouldn't argue about color for 3 pages.
5. Paperscraps could be colored as green. I've probably spoken to him the most during the pm phase.

Rest is coool

HF is going crazy cause he has been caught. It's not voluntarily.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 07 2014 20:34 GMT
#3712
On April 08 2014 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Well, for one, everyone is green and apparently there was a big difference between green and blue in your mind

I would color JAT townie. He's on the right track here, he looked alright to me previously. The only hesitation is him not wanting a syllo shot and then being perfectly fine with syllo as a lynch option, but he can go to the bottom of a townpile, as I was townie myself on syllo D1 (although I didn't flop from townie --> good lynch like JAT seems to have (before the whole visitation and poofter check junk).

I color poofter only slightly less town, not as a lynch for today, but to follow his checks and make sure he's doing what he says he's doing. Syllo is a very visible player, and became SUPER visible today. If scum think they're going to lose him soonish no matter what, and poofter looks iffy, he's fine to say he's got a red check on syllo.

I would color rayn honorary red for killing a townie.

I think I like that WoS read, not sure on that hopeless one.


isn't poofter getting nuked by syllo.............................?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#3713
^ snb is a curious one, just because he always seems to post only a little but they're really good thoughts and I always agree with them or find them logical, regardless of what alignment he is.

Liking foolishness's posts was a plus. Liking foolishness's read on iamp PROBABLY a big plus if iamp is red. I think sandro is a good target for snb to give a gun to, so that's fine, and him checking up to see whether that was his gun's shot is pretty good.

I think he's fine.
Fe fi fo fum.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#3714
On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!


My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role.
No, different thoughts.

If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period?


As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#3715
On April 08 2014 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Well, for one, everyone is green and apparently there was a big difference between green and blue in your mind

I would color JAT townie. He's on the right track here, he looked alright to me previously. The only hesitation is him not wanting a syllo shot and then being perfectly fine with syllo as a lynch option, but he can go to the bottom of a townpile, as I was townie myself on syllo D1 (although I didn't flop from townie --> good lynch like JAT seems to have (before the whole visitation and poofter check junk).

I color poofter only slightly less town, not as a lynch for today, but to follow his checks and make sure he's doing what he says he's doing. Syllo is a very visible player, and became SUPER visible today. If scum think they're going to lose him soonish no matter what, and poofter looks iffy, he's fine to say he's got a red check on syllo.

I would color rayn honorary red for killing a townie.

I think I like that WoS read, not sure on that hopeless one.


isn't poofter getting nuked by syllo.............................?
Yes. Lulz.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:36 GMT
#3716
Disregard that bit
Fe fi fo fum.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 07 2014 20:36 GMT
#3717
On April 08 2014 05:32 Killing wrote:
If people have the same win cond as me, I want to work with them.
If they don't, then I want to lynch them.

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand



I'm pretty good with that list except:

1. I'm not town on austin but I don't have the info that you claim to have.
2. I'm not town on snb, I don't really have a good read on him. I can't even recall a lot of what he has said, hasn't really stuck out.
3. Same with WoS but I'm leaning town on him.
4. I'm not town on HF but the going full crazy over blue green reads townie to me imo. If I was mafia, I wouldn't argue about color for 3 pages.
5. Paperscraps could be colored as green. I've probably spoken to him the most during the pm phase.

Rest is coool


And I should be in blazing green colors.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
April 07 2014 20:38 GMT
#3718
On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!


My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role.
No, different thoughts.

If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period?


As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense.

He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:39 GMT
#3719
On April 08 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!


My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role.
No, different thoughts.

If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period?


As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense.

He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up.
This is the "It's scummy to do scummy things as scum, so scum wouldn't do scummy things" argument.

It is usually a mafia argument, and often mafia defending mafia
Fe fi fo fum.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 07 2014 20:39 GMT
#3720
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum

break down the scenario for me

like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
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