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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 19:48 GMT
#3681
disregard repeated question i thought you were just blowing everyone off including me
Fe fi fo fum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2014 19:50 GMT
#3682
why we care so much about HF. His list looks pretty good.
He is not lynch material except if he stole this list from people who were going to bring this list public really soonish and HF just posted it fast for town cred.

I am lynching many peoples on the list before HF tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
April 07 2014 19:51 GMT
#3683
On April 08 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote:
why we care so much about HF. His list looks pretty good.
He is not lynch material except if he stole this list from people who were going to bring this list public really soonish and HF just posted it fast for town cred.

I am lynching many peoples on the list before HF tbh.

So you believe his bullshit?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 07 2014 19:51 GMT
#3684
I made the list myself in pm land and sent it to everyone and updated the 1 or 2 i wasn't sure on, generally people agree on it
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 19:52 GMT
#3685
On April 08 2014 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded
How is that retarded?


because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role
Wait, what?

Why is what you did, "Hey guys I'm softhard claiming dimensional lemming" retarded to do as mafia?


i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least)
SO HERE'S WHY I ASK

You were softhard claiming this on D1. A bunch. This is a 30 person game. 29 of the people are NOT YOU.

And the ENTIRE time you're doing this, how many people said "dimensional lemming was a mafia role last time, therefore HF is mafia."

I believe the answer is 0. If it's higher, it's like 1-2 max.

You have straight up evidence from this game that people don't just connect a role that's been mafia once to being mafia always. How can you think it would be otherwise? You can't honestly say it's retarded and people would think this when you KNOW they don't, because THEY JUST DIDN'T.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 19:53 GMT
#3686
On April 08 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote:
why we care so much about HF. His list looks pretty good.
He is not lynch material except if he stole this list from people who were going to bring this list public really soonish and HF just posted it fast for town cred.

I am lynching many peoples on the list before HF tbh.
His list is bad and is the "people not voting" list. There are a number of folks on there who are unlikely to be mafia.

The kita/foolishness list, modified in a couple ways, is better (drop syllo for his scum claim, drop poofter for being dead, drop amiko for the syllo bit)
Fe fi fo fum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 07 2014 19:53 GMT
#3687
On April 08 2014 04:52 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded
How is that retarded?


because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role
Wait, what?

Why is what you did, "Hey guys I'm softhard claiming dimensional lemming" retarded to do as mafia?


i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least)
SO HERE'S WHY I ASK

You were softhard claiming this on D1. A bunch. This is a 30 person game. 29 of the people are NOT YOU.

And the ENTIRE time you're doing this, how many people said "dimensional lemming was a mafia role last time, therefore HF is mafia."

I believe the answer is 0. If it's higher, it's like 1-2 max.

You have straight up evidence from this game that people don't just connect a role that's been mafia once to being mafia always. How can you think it would be otherwise? You can't honestly say it's retarded and people would think this when you KNOW they don't, because THEY JUST DIDN'T.


yes that's fine to say when it's already happened but if i'm mafia why would i think they would agree that it's not alignment indicative if the only evidence is that it's only been a scum role!?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
April 07 2014 19:55 GMT
#3688
On April 08 2014 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:52 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded
How is that retarded?


because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role
Wait, what?

Why is what you did, "Hey guys I'm softhard claiming dimensional lemming" retarded to do as mafia?


i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least)
SO HERE'S WHY I ASK

You were softhard claiming this on D1. A bunch. This is a 30 person game. 29 of the people are NOT YOU.

And the ENTIRE time you're doing this, how many people said "dimensional lemming was a mafia role last time, therefore HF is mafia."

I believe the answer is 0. If it's higher, it's like 1-2 max.

You have straight up evidence from this game that people don't just connect a role that's been mafia once to being mafia always. How can you think it would be otherwise? You can't honestly say it's retarded and people would think this when you KNOW they don't, because THEY JUST DIDN'T.


yes that's fine to say when it's already happened but if i'm mafia why would i think they would agree that it's not alignment indicative if the only evidence is that it's only been a scum role!?

I think you knew they would agree. People aren't stupid.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 19:55 GMT
#3689
Nonono. You're claiming, right now, that it's retarded.

The evidence HAS already happened. D1 happened, nobody cared about your claim and said it meant you were mafia.


So it's not okay for you to think, TODAY, that claiming dimensional lemming as mafia is retarded, because you know what happens when you claim dimensional lemming. Nobody calls you mafia for it.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 19:57 GMT
#3690
And you're using this, in part, to justify the stuff you said about everyone being 3P who "wins with the town" when EVERY GREEN AND BLUE ROLE PM SO FAR HAS FLIPPED SAYING THAT.

Which you followed up by saying the green flips didn't say that, and said the people were townie. WHICH IS FALSE.
Fe fi fo fum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 07 2014 19:59 GMT
#3691
look austin i don't care, i'm talking about the past "it would have been retarded to claim" is implied to be retarded to claim at the start of the day 1 i'm not talking about now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 07 2014 20:00 GMT
#3692
you can think i'm mafia till the cows come home but it doesn't change the fact that i'm not mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
April 07 2014 20:02 GMT
#3693
Are you transporting us to another land tomorrow? Or are we back to our regularly scheduled programming
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:03 GMT
#3694
On April 08 2014 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
look austin i don't care, i'm talking about the past "it would have been retarded to claim" is implied to be retarded to claim at the start of the day 1 i'm not talking about now
You DID claim D1 with all your questions.

You stood up in front of 29 people and said "I really like animals that live in water, and swim, and have gills, animals that we can cook and eat, animals that are grouped into a category that starts with the letter F"

29 people just looked at you

You stood up in front of 29-x people the next day and said "It would be stupid for anyone to say they liked Fish. Because people who like Fish in the past have been mafia."



We all KNEW you meant you liked fish on D1. And we just looked at you, we didn't call you mafia. So it's entirely illogical for you to think, today, that saying you like fish makes people think you're mafia.





BUT THAT'S EVEN BESIDE THE POINT BECAUSE MY REAL PROBLEM IS BEFORE THIS WHOLE BIT.
Fe fi fo fum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 07 2014 20:11 GMT
#3695
On April 08 2014 05:03 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
look austin i don't care, i'm talking about the past "it would have been retarded to claim" is implied to be retarded to claim at the start of the day 1 i'm not talking about now
You DID claim D1 with all your questions.

You stood up in front of 29 people and said "I really like animals that live in water, and swim, and have gills, animals that we can cook and eat, animals that are grouped into a category that starts with the letter F"

29 people just looked at you

You stood up in front of 29-x people the next day and said "It would be stupid for anyone to say they liked Fish. Because people who like Fish in the past have been mafia."



We all KNEW you meant you liked fish on D1. And we just looked at you, we didn't call you mafia. So it's entirely illogical for you to think, today, that saying you like fish makes people think you're mafia.





BUT THAT'S EVEN BESIDE THE POINT BECAUSE MY REAL PROBLEM IS BEFORE THIS WHOLE BIT.



no, i'm saying i got my role pm, it was blue, it doesn't say i'm town at all it just says i win with town so i'm like, that's weird wording but whatever what game shall i make it that's town favoured? i see palmar say it doesn't say his alignment, i think to myself! hey mine doesn't say that either, maybe i'm just like palmar! it doesn't say i'm town so maybe i'm 3p! check op - it says there are some 3p's where it says win with town, ok whatever i guess i am 3p!

in the meantime i go to awards thread and look for top town rated themed games, see lemming as mafia rated top game role, see games i dont really want to use here because it could go wrong, ask around in thread more and more, decide pm game!

lynch gumshoe, gumshoe has power, gumshoe is green, confirms my thoughts that i'm 3p because green people have powers too! keirathi, marv, foolishness and kita die! hey their powers are all weird not totally towny powers and they are all blue, maybe it's a super game with lots of 3p's! (drunk out of my mind on weekend too so not really paying attention)! game is pm game now, pm nobody, get pm'd by town heros, make good list of scum

here we are
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 07 2014 20:12 GMT
#3696
missed out the bit where oats says va is obviously scum because he claimed scum power - i say powers aren't alignment indicative

that happens after i read award thread
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:13 GMT
#3697
Step 1: HF thinks "wins with town" = 3P
On April 08 2014 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
marv 3p wins with town*

is that the only thing you care about? if that 1 person was town reading you or not?
On April 08 2014 04:26 Holyflare wrote:
it doesn't say "you are a town x" just says "you win with town" so i assumed it was 3p


Step 2: HF is told that means you're town
On April 08 2014 04:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I am town and I also have the sentence "You win with town." in my rolepm.
On April 08 2014 04:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I am town and I also have the sentence "You win with town." in my rolepm.

Mine definitely doesn't say that I'm town, but it says that I win with town. I just assumed that makes me town.
On April 08 2014 04:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
op says stuff is color-coded normally

so everything that flips green/blue is town

"you win with town" means you're town

this is dumb


Step 3: HF's brain does these things
On April 08 2014 04:30 Holyflare wrote:
yes my pm says win with town and it doesn't say i'm town and i'm blue so i assumed it was 3p because there have been greens that said they were town and had a power too (i checked and gumshoes doesnt by he has a power and keirathis does and he also had power)
Checks role PMs, which didn't say people were town, only that they won with town, and ... either read them entirely wrong or lies.

On April 08 2014 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
So you honestly thought that you were 3p, amiko is claimed 3p, and scum shot 3 3ps on night one?

And that makes sense to you?


scum shot 3 towny looking people and i assumed they were 3p yeh x_x
Believed that there are 18 trillion 3Ps, (because every flipped blue so far would be 3P - marv, foolishness, kitaman, BLAZINDHAND who had the same thing, Holyflare himself, and Amiko, meaning Holyflare believed there were at least 6 3Ps in the game, and 5 of them just random 3Ps who also win with town (4 flipped people plus himself))


How is this where your brain goes? If you see THIS MANY ROLE PMS THAT SAY "you win with town" and you have PLAYED GAMES ON TL MAFIA BEFORE, how do you conclude those people are all third parties. ESPECIALLY when your conclusion (greens are town, blues are 3Ps) is not color-coded to the OP OR ANY OTHER TL MAFIA GAME, and when your conclusion RELIES ON MISREADING THE GREEN ROLE PMS THAT, IN FACT, STATE THE SAME THING AS THE BLUE ROLE PMS
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:14 GMT
#3698
On April 08 2014 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:03 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
look austin i don't care, i'm talking about the past "it would have been retarded to claim" is implied to be retarded to claim at the start of the day 1 i'm not talking about now
You DID claim D1 with all your questions.

You stood up in front of 29 people and said "I really like animals that live in water, and swim, and have gills, animals that we can cook and eat, animals that are grouped into a category that starts with the letter F"

29 people just looked at you

You stood up in front of 29-x people the next day and said "It would be stupid for anyone to say they liked Fish. Because people who like Fish in the past have been mafia."



We all KNEW you meant you liked fish on D1. And we just looked at you, we didn't call you mafia. So it's entirely illogical for you to think, today, that saying you like fish makes people think you're mafia.





BUT THAT'S EVEN BESIDE THE POINT BECAUSE MY REAL PROBLEM IS BEFORE THIS WHOLE BIT.



no, i'm saying i got my role pm, it was blue, it doesn't say i'm town at all it just says i win with town so i'm like, that's weird wording but whatever what game shall i make it that's town favoured? i see palmar say it doesn't say his alignment, i think to myself! hey mine doesn't say that either, maybe i'm just like palmar! it doesn't say i'm town so maybe i'm 3p! check op - it says there are some 3p's where it says win with town, ok whatever i guess i am 3p!

in the meantime i go to awards thread and look for top town rated themed games, see lemming as mafia rated top game role, see games i dont really want to use here because it could go wrong, ask around in thread more and more, decide pm game!

lynch gumshoe, gumshoe has power, gumshoe is green, confirms my thoughts that i'm 3p because green people have powers too! keirathi, marv, foolishness and kita die! hey their powers are all weird not totally towny powers and they are all blue, maybe it's a super game with lots of 3p's! (drunk out of my mind on weekend too so not really paying attention)! game is pm game now, pm nobody, get pm'd by town heros, make good list of scum

here we are
Except the green role that you thought was town doesn't ever say "You are town," it only says "You win with the town."
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:20 GMT
#3699
You played in Hogwarts. Blue and green roles were town.

Back to basics had no 3rd parties and some of the flips aren't in the main host filter so I'm lazy and not looking to see whether there were blues but there probably were.

You played in TL XIII. Blues and Greens were town. 3Ps, the assassins, were black.

Played in World Heavyweight Championship. Green and blue were both town.

Played in II Titanic. Blues and Greens were town. 3P, sebastian, was black.

I can keep going, but I imagine that I'm going to find only games where Blue meant you were town, and all 3Ps were in Black. Cuz that's...how it always is.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 07 2014 20:22 GMT
#3700
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!
Fe fi fo fum.
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