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Original Message From CHUPAZI duplakfish: "You are Prisoner Hirohito, a multi-form shape-shifting alien, on the run from the Americans after they threatened to Nuke your cities. Being a shape-shifting alien allows you to evade all checks, so you are immune to all cop checks and will show up as town. You are also immune to conversions and your win condition cannot change.
You win with either the Town or the Hitler, but you must be alive at the end of the game to do so because you are a Survivor.
Fake Claim:
You are Winston Churchill, son of Lord Churchill, but you prefer to be called ""Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All."" Thankfully “Josef Stalin” is in this game otherwise the “Peasants” wouldn’t be able to understand you because you’re not a Russian speaker. Hopefully, nothing will happen to him because you won’t be able to communicate effectively if he were to disappear. (Not really, you can still talk even if something happens to “Josef Stalin,” aka the Veteran, lol.)
You win with the Town." At least I can WIFOM it
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On April 02 2014 08:52 kitaman27 wrote: slam, why not post that yesterday when I asked and hosts said you could? Why wait until you're a nuke target.
I'm kinda inclined to suggest firing the nuke into the mafia suspects to be honest, rather than going after likely third party. Not sure I'd trust his claim since he seemed so upset about it and survivor isn't really rage inducing, but until we flip our first mafia he isn't really a priority.
Reading now for top to suspects. I didn't notice as I was pissed, not reading. I am unaware that you did that.
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Either way Kita, I just broke the rules so you don't have to worry about it.
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kitaman27
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Hmm, you're allowed to post roles I believe.
On August 04 2013 08:59 Alakaslam wrote: he swears like his role is no fun.
I think that means he is survivor.
This was the only reference to a survivor that I could find from slam in past games. I suppose it supports the idea that he views the role to be boring to play.
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On April 02 2014 08:57 kitaman27 wrote:Hmm, you're allowed to post roles I believe. Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 08:59 Alakaslam wrote: he swears like his role is no fun.
I think that means he is survivor. This was the only reference to a survivor that I could find from slam in past games. I suppose it supports the idea that he views the role to be boring to play. Yeah, but not time stamps or the sender and I know why.
That at least makes it WIFOM. Otherwise town just massclaims (a la rayn) and it is essentially over
Of course scum has fakeclaims so maybe I am alright. I am kind of banking on that but I would understand a ban.
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kitaman27
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On April 02 2014 08:54 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 08:52 kitaman27 wrote: slam, why not post that yesterday when I asked and hosts said you could? Why wait until you're a nuke target.
I'm kinda inclined to suggest firing the nuke into the mafia suspects to be honest, rather than going after likely third party. Not sure I'd trust his claim since he seemed so upset about it and survivor isn't really rage inducing, but until we flip our first mafia he isn't really a priority.
Reading now for top to suspects. I didn't notice as I was pissed, not reading. I am unaware that you did that.
On April 01 2014 05:28 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 04:57 kitaman27 wrote: Slam, suppose town was willing to make a deal with you.
A deal works both ways.
We give you lynch immunity so that you survive until endgame. Mafia will not shoot you over town. You will therefore be guaranteed to win.
You give us your role name and role and if we feel that you can use it to find mafia, you help us out. Mods have confirmed you can share your role. You would be allowed to post slammy stuff to your hearts content and nobody would have a problem. I'd even be willing to join in. Think of how much fun that would be!
Sound good? I offered this to town a long time ago and they shat on it. Too late I understand there are exceptions
Well you responded directly to the request saying too late. Are you saying you forgot?
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kitaman27
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meh actually don't care to be honest. Even if I don't think you may have omitted something from that post, your play doesn't seem scum motivated. A recruiter type role is the only real possibility to be worried about, but the cyberman flavor seems more likely for the recruiting mechanic unless there are two. Still think we should go after mafia regardless of what third party type alignment you might be, even if jarjar holds the nuke and thinks I'm mafia XD
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kitaman27
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On April 02 2014 09:09 kitaman27 wrote: meh actually don't care to be honest. Even if I do think you may have omitted something from that post, your play doesn't seem scum motivated. A recruiter type role is the only real possibility to be worried about, but the cyberman flavor seems more likely for the recruiting mechanic unless there are two. Still think we should go after mafia regardless of what third party type alignment you might be, even if jarjar holds the nuke and thinks I'm mafia XD
EBWOP
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kitaman27
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On April 02 2014 06:06 austinmcc wrote: I know the scum narrative is very loose, but do you think the way I interpret his posts is sensible kita? Is there a particular point where I'm not seeing what you're seeing and you think I'm coming out wrong because of that?
Nevermind on that one. I've actually removed djo from my ever shrinking possible mafia lynch. Originally, I was thinking that he took the position he did knowing more information than he should about rayn and my alignments, but I don't think that applies as well as I thought. There was something else that I found townie from him that I won't go into.
Well I'm down to hopeless and vivax, though not a strong feeling like I did on rayn (although apparently that wasn't a good thing). I may look into some of the people I've been ignoring like poofter. Usually I only spend time on people if something jumps out at me, but right now a ton of things aren't jumping out.
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kitaman27
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yeah. i haven't read any filters or anything yet though
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Halfway around, but just discovered U.R.F. mode on LoL.
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kitaman27
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On April 02 2014 09:29 thrawn2112 wrote: yeah. i haven't read any filters or anything yet though
What do you think about austin's absence at the lynch? Him moving off his 1-person vote and onto slam/gumshoe at like 30 min before the lynch likely would have started the swing.
Do you buy his claim that he wasn't around at that time?
I'm actually kinda inclined to believe it based on the length of the phone call he gave us out of all things, but what are your thoughts?
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I believe it.
But it's not like it has much of anything to do with his alignment, because he could be telling the truth as either alignment. And there's nothing he's done all game that's made me think he's mafia so right now austin is a super green read. Most recent;y the way he went about doing the town/scum djo thing and the conclusions he drew from his own efforts were really townie and probably hard to fake as mafia
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kitaman27
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Ya, I guess even if he is telling the truth about not being around doesn't necessarily make him mafia/town. I'm on the same page without really seeing anything wrong from him (aside from his anti-town behavior by informing me about urf mode and wasting the next 4 hours of mine). His play seems pretty similar to the shadow game where he likes to interact 1 on 1 with players to get thoughts, which matches his town behavior.
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and about not being around for the lynch? eh. either he's telling the truth or he's not, so whatever. that's literally all you can say about it. so you have to look at everything else he's done, and those things indicate that he's town
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kitaman27
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You still think kush is sketchy?
When I went to look at him originally, I found these quotes from persona and golden sun where he was town, which seems to match the same mentality this game.
On September 16 2013 20:56 kushm4sta wrote: OP might not be survivor but he is probably 3p of some type. All the scum are going to be dying to kill him because he is an easy lynch with obvious reasons for wanting to lynch him.
On September 17 2013 23:05 kushm4sta wrote: If i was cop I would defend a survivor in TWO SECONDS because it's a dumb lynch if he's a survivor.
On August 21 2013 03:48 kushm4sta wrote: yawn, boring discussion about survivors. scum love this shit.
It lines up with his position of not lynching slam and suggesting that we look at those that do since mafia are likely to go after third party targets. His post length seems to be what I would expect from a town kush as well.
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Why did you ask me? It didn't look like you were scumreading austin and I'm pretty sure it doesn't look like I'm scumreading austin.
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On April 02 2014 09:47 kitaman27 wrote:You still think kush is sketchy? When I went to look at him originally, I found these quotes from persona and golden sun where he was town, which seems to match the same mentality this game. Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 20:56 kushm4sta wrote: OP might not be survivor but he is probably 3p of some type. All the scum are going to be dying to kill him because he is an easy lynch with obvious reasons for wanting to lynch him. Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 23:05 kushm4sta wrote: If i was cop I would defend a survivor in TWO SECONDS because it's a dumb lynch if he's a survivor. Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 03:48 kushm4sta wrote: yawn, boring discussion about survivors. scum love this shit. It lines up with his position of not lynching slam and suggesting that we look at those that do since mafia are likely to go after third party targets. His post length seems to be what I would expect from a town kush as well.
so my read on kush is kinda fucked
1) going into N1 i was more interested in hearing from him. i town read him early, but he hadn't done much so I needed to see him post more. AND since I was townreading so many other people and felt more confident about those reads, I thought he muight just be scum because of PoE
2) i thought that the hidden vote mechanic must come from mafia
3) kush claims the hidden vote
4) now I think kush is town again lol
it was the way he claimed it that made me think he's town. he wasn't defensive about it and didn't seem to understand that people would find him suspicious for using a hidden vote to lynch town rayn. if he was scum he probably would have not claimed it or the claim would have been at least a bit defensive
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kitaman27
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On April 02 2014 09:48 thrawn2112 wrote: Why did you ask me? It didn't look like you were scumreading austin and I'm pretty sure it doesn't look like I'm scumreading austin.
You were the guy who showed up when I asked
Are you still thinking that the mafia were on the rayn lynch if kush is town? Hope is someone I want to reread, but I actually think amiko might be one of my strongest town read at the moment, so I really don't think that list is very strong.
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