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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 02 2014 01:04 GMT
#1261
idk. alak is pretty closed to confirmed to being not scum so i really don't think it mattered what mafia decided to do with their votes. i'll go look in a bit
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 02 2014 01:11 GMT
#1262
Not only have I been townie, but as far as I know, I was elected Bird God yesterday. I highly doubt hosts would allow Bird God to be mafia.
Fe fi fo fum.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 02 2014 01:12 GMT
#1263
bird gods have nothing on 4th dimensional townies
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 02 2014 01:39 GMT
#1264
assuming scum can convert townies, they should be able to convert __________ townies.

I am willing to bet that scum role PMs do not allow for the conversion of Bird Gods.

#getsquawkt
Fe fi fo fum.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 02 2014 01:40 GMT
#1265
i dunno kita. I really dont. i have a feeling that D2 is going to feel exactly like a normal game's D1
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 02 2014 01:57 GMT
#1266
On April 02 2014 09:30 austinmcc wrote:
Halfway around, but just discovered U.R.F. mode on LoL.


This is very town.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 02 2014 02:05 GMT
#1267
I think with Slam's claim lining up we will find our scum among someone who pushed for Rayn but voted on Slam. Here is why: They don't want to be the ones championing a lynch day 1 especially if there is just a few of them at the start. They would however want a misslynch and they know Slam's alignment isn't scum so even if hes fake hes not on their team. So him getting lynched isn't the worst thing.

My top candidate is still Vivax as I pointed this out during the night he nudged along/buried rayn but voted on Slam instead. That post is below (I don't know how to link to a post yet cause I'm a n00b Can someone tell me for future reference?)

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 01 2014 07:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 07:17 austinmcc wrote:
re: vivax

It's not just the amount of posting or that he's found a thing, but ... if he was lurky he'd be lurky. If he were causing havoc he'd be posting more and about stranger stuff. If he were just trying to comment and get by then he would be doing that without speaking a bunch on toad and hopeless.

His actions look more to me like a townie who has a train of thought to pursue, and don't really fit any pattern of scum behavior that I'd particularly expect.



I understand that he hasnt been super lurky my biggest concern was that he made a huge post on rayn that to me seemed like he was burying the case a townie made when I first read it.

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On April 01 2014 02:13 Vivax wrote:
Rayn how did you go from probably scum to strong townie, brave etc. on poofter?

On March 31 2014 16:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
austin looks really good. I am surprised i get what he is saying.

tehpoofer actually is probably scum. He tells me to do scumhunting. Surprise surprise i think i have done the most scumhunting in this game hands down. He has talked about nothing than me, he bases his read on me on one game (rofl), noone agrees with him on his read, yet his meta read must be correct. ^^ I could write a bigger case but i don't wanna do that right now. Basically he keeps flip-flopping over same things over and over again, when i tell him why they are wrong he forgets them for a while and then they suddenly just reappear. He is saying maybe two things and nothing else in this game.


I agree with whoever said (austin?) that Hopeless is town. While i think his play is completely useless and idiotic he is town.

JJD also looks okayish.

so kita and tehpoofer are most likely scum. maybe gumshoe.


On April 01 2014 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
bah i promised to tell you who is scum so no selfvoting:
##unvote
vote kitaman27


Strong townies:
Toadesstern - town
austinmcc - had a good post about Hopeless, i totally agree with the thought process and conclusion. Hopeless would be an easy target for scum to go after, austin has not been in thread so he would probably go after him.
Hopeless1der - sadly he is town, and a strong read. will not help most likely
thrawn2112 - has only good posts and is making a lot of sense. most likely to solve this game. seems to be one of the few people with any brain.
kushm4sta - dumb but town.
Djodref - claimed blue.
Tehpoofter - brave. says stuff he wants to. while dumb conclusions they make sense for town!poofer to say more than mafia!poofer.

Weaker town:
JarJarDrinks - focuses on things he usually focuses on as town. will most likely be called scum at some point because people don't know what he does as town, or rather don't understand. thrawn focus on people who go after JJD and see why they do. If JJD is town (he more likely is) he is easy mislynch because people just don't get why he says stuff he does. you will get it, noone else will most likely.
Amiko - would have liked to hear more from him. he does stuff that's weird and focuses on weird stuff but he is kinda brave and doesn't hesitate to give his opinions on things. looks townie.
Vivax - thinks kita is scum.

Weak scum:
gumshoe - hasn't said anything

Kill with fire:
kitaman27
Alakaslam


Now there is a possibility Slam is scum. Remember that. The problem is if you are going to lynch me you need to lynch mafia on D2 and D3 and you can't lynch Slam. You'll most likely lose if you do because of the yak shit. D1 doesn't matter but if you lynch town on D1 you can't risk lynching Slam on D2. You just can't and that's on you then.

So lynch kita -> lynch gumshoe. Hope one of them flips yak and then lynch Slam. There is probably gonna be one more mafia after that in case Slam is not mafia (i don't think he is). If Slam is third faction with KP you are all fucked and it's good i am not in the game because i would be so mad.

This is going to be my last post. Maybe i'll rub some salt into your wounds and come back and claim 5min before the deadline, just to tell how dumb you are.


then you say your vote on Hopeless was some kind of sheepy vote on a multitude of players.
Kita is among them, this is the last thing you wrote about him before putting that vote is this:

It makes sense to me but kita is building the web for some reason. I think it's distracting and therefore scummy. I don't see what he is trying to achieve.


after having called his play scummy for a while. So you wanna say that you voted hopeless cause you trusted one of your suspects to be making the right guess?

On April 01 2014 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 01:16 Amiko wrote:
@rayn respond to my concerns please re: kitaman case

My vote on Hopeless was because of the one post i found odd and because Toad was town and if all of Toad, Foolishness and kita think Hopeless is scum, in addition to me finding a scummy post from him he is probably scum.

Then he started doing townie stuff and Slam claimed anti-town.




My problem with this and why I think its burying is because his point about how rayn switched on read left out two posts that basically shows the transition:

Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 17:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 31 2014 16:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
idk. i think tehpoofter is more involved in the thread than a lot of people. he's definitely more engaged than he was in that last game. i'm not getting the same 'newbie town' vibe that I instantly got from him last game but traces of it are still there. like i think he's town, but he might just be more confident now and that's interfering with my noob reading abilities.

and you think he is scum because his read of you is based on poor meta reasoning? lol would you expect him to have a good understanding of meta?

No my read is based on he keeps repeating same arguments over and over again while when he talks to me he sounds like he believes me. He doesn't question my conclusions, he doesn't point anything weird/contradicting out form my play. Then when i leave the thread he keeps going back to "but does it look like rayn is scumhunting". The meta read is not a problem, the problem is he "doesn't realize" he has a sample size of 1 game and other people do not read me scum because of meta. That should ring some alarm bells.


This one is him still being scummy on me but he agrees some of my argument isn't bad just that I'm drawing bad conclusions based on other people's reads.

Then this one a couple posts later in his filter


Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 19:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
meh maybe poofer is town after all. He has probably the most posts and to a relatively new player it's highly unlike he is scum.


This comes between the two quotes he showed. so the answer was there if he read the filter... like rayn did transition from scummy (although he never voted me so not THAT scummy) to well his conclusions are bad to maybe he is town and hes new.

So vivax makes his post saying it was scum instantly to brave town when really the information was there. I can easily see scum doing something like this to bury someone because unless you read rayn's filter or remembered that little one line post (like i did) you would have no reason to doubt that was the case. It could be lazy town play because he didn't read the thread or didnt read the whole filter but seems scummy to me.

(I screwed up the bolding thing but the parts I'm talking about in the quotes I tried to underline sorry I'm bad at quoting multiple posts)


As for other possibilities who were on Slam were JJD and DJO I'm going to reread their filters to see if they pushed on rayn at all.

For now:
[b]## vote Vivax
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 02 2014 02:24 GMT
#1268
So it seems no one has a problem w/ me firing my nuke @ slam? Unless someone tries to convince me otherwise I'll do it sometime tomorrow morning.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 02 2014 02:29 GMT
#1269
I would like to hear more from you on where YOU would like to fire it, slam or otherwise.

I've used those "BIC For Her" pens, they still have ink and write just fine. I think some discussion about where you/others think the nuke should head is useful, and the label on the nuke is an option.
Fe fi fo fum.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 02 2014 02:29 GMT
#1270
On April 02 2014 11:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
So it seems no one has a problem w/ me firing my nuke @ slam? Unless someone tries to convince me otherwise I'll do it sometime tomorrow morning.


why aren't you firing it at kita? during the night you said you were treating him as "confirmed scum"

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 02 2014 02:31 GMT
#1271
Oh I want to totally fire it @ slam and I'm pretty sure thats what I'm doing. But I figure I'd @ least let people chime in about it.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 02 2014 02:33 GMT
#1272
He's posted, and other people seem to be going "oh my slam not scum." You disagree with them? Fine with nuking him regardless of alignment?

These questions should read relatively discussiony, but I think this is worth talking about, and there's been something of a shift in general thought away from slam being scum. So I'm interested in your read on him, and specifically whether, if you don't think he's the uberscum, why him over someone else.
Fe fi fo fum.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 02 2014 02:38 GMT
#1273
On April 02 2014 11:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 11:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
So it seems no one has a problem w/ me firing my nuke @ slam? Unless someone tries to convince me otherwise I'll do it sometime tomorrow morning.


why aren't you firing it at kita? during the night you said you were treating him as "confirmed scum"

Well I'm hoping that kita gets lynched. I think he's really likely to be scum but like 90%. I probably shouldn't have said confirmed scum but I wanted to let it be known that he's a real strong scumread for me. Slam is 100% not town.

Plus, if slam is survivor, I think it's better to take his lynch off the table since votes on or not on him wont tell us as much as votes on or not on Kita.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 02 2014 02:39 GMT
#1274
On April 02 2014 11:33 austinmcc wrote:
He's posted, and other people seem to be going "oh my slam not scum." You disagree with them? Fine with nuking him regardless of alignment?
I think he's more likely to be survivor but I still think there's a chance he's scum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 02 2014 02:43 GMT
#1275
On April 02 2014 11:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 11:33 austinmcc wrote:
He's posted, and other people seem to be going "oh my slam not scum." You disagree with them? Fine with nuking him regardless of alignment?
I think he's more likely to be survivor but I still think there's a chance he's scum.
Why more likely survivor now?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 02 2014 02:43 GMT
#1276
Also, still 0 chance he's town?
Fe fi fo fum.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 02 2014 02:44 GMT
#1277
what do you think about nuking gumshoe?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 02 2014 02:45 GMT
#1278
On April 02 2014 11:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 11:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 02 2014 11:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
So it seems no one has a problem w/ me firing my nuke @ slam? Unless someone tries to convince me otherwise I'll do it sometime tomorrow morning.


why aren't you firing it at kita? during the night you said you were treating him as "confirmed scum"

Well I'm hoping that kita gets lynched. I think he's really likely to be scum but like 90%. I probably shouldn't have said confirmed scum but I wanted to let it be known that he's a real strong scumread for me. Slam is 100% not town.

Plus, if slam is survivor, I think it's better to take his lynch off the table since votes on or not on him wont tell us as much as votes on or not on Kita.


I agree that lynching slam is not a good move because its not alignment indicative to vote on him. I Wouldn't mind the slam shot unless we get something more confirmed. It seems like you can wait until closer to your deadline to see if something else comes up like maybe if we have a probable 1 scum 1 town in two people situation we can do like a lynch one shoot one type thing.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 02 2014 02:51 GMT
#1279
On April 02 2014 11:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
what do you think about nuking gumshoe?
I have defaulted to the absolutely terrible and not actually good for anyone in any game "maybe he will get modkilled" mode.

If it were a shot and not a nuke, you could hold it and only fire if you were sure he wasn't going to get modkilled and hadn't done anything of note.

Since it's a nuke, that's not an option. Despite knowing it's a terrible state of mind, I'm currently on the "maybe modkill" plan.

i WILL note that gumshoe has been active all up in cell mini, and 0 active here. This makes me a sad panda, and makes me more amenable to Bad Things™ happening to him. So it's an option but I like the idea of discussing slam or others, on which people might have different opinions (it's difficult to think anything about gumshoe other than "lol he so afk, why do this we sad"), and gumshoe can again be a stupid backup.
Fe fi fo fum.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 02 2014 02:52 GMT
#1280
On April 02 2014 11:43 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 11:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On April 02 2014 11:33 austinmcc wrote:
He's posted, and other people seem to be going "oh my slam not scum." You disagree with them? Fine with nuking him regardless of alignment?
I think he's more likely to be survivor but I still think there's a chance he's scum.
Why more likely survivor now?
What do you mean? I'm pretty sure I've never said I thought he was more likely to be scum then survivor.
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