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On March 26 2014 19:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Where did i create a trap?
On March 26 2014 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 15:56 Holyflare wrote:On March 26 2014 15:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 26 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote: I think you're misconstruing the timeline of events here
he says he can read you town based off of one alignment null post ----> i ask him why ----> he says just because and then elaborates some bs about smileys that isn't true in any of your games and doesn't apply to your first post at all ---> then says it must be true based off of one games reading when you were mafia but in a bad game ----> then says he hasn't read any of your town games so doesn't actually know whether what he says is true or not What does this have to do with anything i have said? I have never elaborated on if i think that's a legit way to form a read or not. I have said it's not scummy because i know that's how Robik reads people when he is town. He thinks it's a good way to form reads and so far he has been about 90% correct in his reads formed that way. so WHY NOT SAY THIS 4 PAGES BACK INSTEAD OF SAYING IT'S SHIT LOGIC how the fuck do i know how robik plays and when he points out that he hasn't read any of your town games i just take that lying down? no i push that you could have said anything to stop me doing this but you perpetuated that it was a bad case, shit logic, don't want to talk to me etc etc why? Because i wanted to see other people's opinions on this and i caught mafia!thrawn.
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oh 1 wasn't true? Damn. I was really hoping it was.
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On March 26 2014 19:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 26 2014 15:56 Holyflare wrote:On March 26 2014 15:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 26 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote: I think you're misconstruing the timeline of events here
he says he can read you town based off of one alignment null post ----> i ask him why ----> he says just because and then elaborates some bs about smileys that isn't true in any of your games and doesn't apply to your first post at all ---> then says it must be true based off of one games reading when you were mafia but in a bad game ----> then says he hasn't read any of your town games so doesn't actually know whether what he says is true or not What does this have to do with anything i have said? I have never elaborated on if i think that's a legit way to form a read or not. I have said it's not scummy because i know that's how Robik reads people when he is town. He thinks it's a good way to form reads and so far he has been about 90% correct in his reads formed that way. so WHY NOT SAY THIS 4 PAGES BACK INSTEAD OF SAYING IT'S SHIT LOGIC how the fuck do i know how robik plays and when he points out that he hasn't read any of your town games i just take that lying down? no i push that you could have said anything to stop me doing this but you perpetuated that it was a bad case, shit logic, don't want to talk to me etc etc why? Because i wanted to see other people's opinions on this and i caught mafia!thrawn. trap != "i want more opinions before i give my own" Why are you this bad Palmar?
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This is a game of two truths and i lie.
freudian slip man, i isn't even near 1!
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On March 26 2014 14:22 Holyflare wrote: 2 mafia so easy? Palmar rayn gg. Belt remains. Can you not play like this this game? It'll get annoying quite fast.
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On March 26 2014 19:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 14:22 Holyflare wrote: 2 mafia so easy? Palmar rayn gg. Belt remains. Can you not play like this this game? It'll get annoying quite fast.
yes well i tried not to and then rayn was an arrogant sod that laid a "trap" to get reactions out of other people
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Palmar what do you think gumshoe's alignment is and how sure you are of it?
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On March 26 2014 19:24 marvellosity wrote: oh 1 wasn't true? Damn. I was really hoping it was. oh it's true as well. rayn you're a douchebag.
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3 posts till 20k marv make it a good one
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On March 26 2014 19:30 Holyflare wrote: 3 posts till 20k marv make it a good one
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My 10k post was calling Koshi town when he tried to lynch me because of retarded shit. Then i lynched myself.
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On March 26 2014 15:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 15:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also the things you said about Robik are hilarious. I am more interested in what other people think about all this. There is nothing i want to discuss with you. Please point out to me where it is wrong. He has read 1 or 2 games of you as mafia and 1 of those is foundation where you yourself said that the game was shit and totally not your meta so in actuality he has read 1 game of mafia from you. He has read 0 town games. He calls out something about smiley's which didn't happen in any of your scum games that I looked at and seeing as he has read 0 of your town games how does he know you do not do that as town? You defend robik and say everything is shit and boo hoo i don't want to talk to holy anymore. You so funny. I don't know if you dropped this later, but you're pressing this way too hard. It seems extremely obvious to me that Robik is the type of player who will leap to hard conclusions off little to no evidence (correctly or incorrectly). I have no idea why you'd think what he's doing is outside of his normal remit
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On March 26 2014 19:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 19:16 phagga wrote:On March 26 2014 19:00 Holyflare wrote: he has 2 points on thrawn
1) thrawn's point on rayn is "too absolute" which isn't the case if he read the meta that thrawn linked as reasoning because to anyone outside you or thrawn or me it looks solid
2) didn't ask for reasoning - which is semi legit but was already posted by you ages ago
so his read is overlyjustified and based on something that he didn't read (point 1) and something that he sheeped if he read the thread (point 2), all he had to say was "i agree with rayn or hf" or w/e and it would be fine but he wrote a wall of text like that to say what already had been said Regarding 1, I still see it as a valid point. And what do you mean with "because to anyone outside you or thrawn or me it looks solid"? I don't get what you want so say with this. Regarding 2, you mean this post, right? I missed that, my fault. Number 1 is because thrawn EXPLAINS why he thinks like that with a quote from titanic and obs qt posts from another game which to anyone that isn't rayn or thrawn or me (you don't know what happened or anything) looks like a legitimate thing to say and if you had read it you would be unassuming and accept that as the blind truth. So why didn't you?
This is stupid, I would never accept something like this as a blind truth. The world isn't black and white. And yes I did read the quotes, does not change the fact that people are normally not that stubborn to always do one thing no matter what happens. Rayn not evaluating thrawns opinion/read because it differs from yours would be stupid and scummy in most cases.
Number 2 is rayn talking about thrawn not asking questions about his town read which he stated numerous times but you made extremely lengthy
so in total your first reason for voting thrawn is something that shows that you have not read the game or your scum read and the second reason implies you are sheeping without reading the game or you are writing at length about points that were already said
which is quite scummy
Yeah, actually, I even implied the same point earlier myself, here. I don't really know why I thought i needed to explain that point again, it just seemed important when I went through thrawns filter. But I agree it was unnecessary
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On March 26 2014 15:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Remind of this post when marv comes back to thread. I'll prove you i am town then. Reminder
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On March 26 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 15:19 Holyflare wrote:On March 26 2014 15:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also the things you said about Robik are hilarious. I am more interested in what other people think about all this. There is nothing i want to discuss with you. Please point out to me where it is wrong. He has read 1 or 2 games of you as mafia and 1 of those is foundation where you yourself said that the game was shit and totally not your meta so in actuality he has read 1 game of mafia from you. He has read 0 town games. He calls out something about smiley's which didn't happen in any of your scum games that I looked at and seeing as he has read 0 of your town games how does he know you do not do that as town? You defend robik and say everything is shit and boo hoo i don't want to talk to holy anymore. You so funny. I don't know if you dropped this later, but you're pressing this way too hard. It seems extremely obvious to me that Robik is the type of player who will leap to hard conclusions off little to no evidence (correctly or incorrectly). I have no idea why you'd think what he's doing is outside of his normal remit
because i had never played with him and it's retarded and rayn knew it was retarded and didn't bother to point it out and just said "shit logic" "u bad" when all he had to do was do what you just did and point out that i was wrong to assume something like that, he perpetuated the argument by antagonising me.
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EBWOP "stupid and/or scummy"
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On March 26 2014 19:18 thrawn2112 wrote: ##unvote
stop the ninja voting/unvoting and explain your reasoning...
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yes my 20k post isn't going to be impressive because cba. :D
On March 26 2014 19:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:On March 26 2014 15:19 Holyflare wrote:On March 26 2014 15:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also the things you said about Robik are hilarious. I am more interested in what other people think about all this. There is nothing i want to discuss with you. Please point out to me where it is wrong. He has read 1 or 2 games of you as mafia and 1 of those is foundation where you yourself said that the game was shit and totally not your meta so in actuality he has read 1 game of mafia from you. He has read 0 town games. He calls out something about smiley's which didn't happen in any of your scum games that I looked at and seeing as he has read 0 of your town games how does he know you do not do that as town? You defend robik and say everything is shit and boo hoo i don't want to talk to holy anymore. You so funny. I don't know if you dropped this later, but you're pressing this way too hard. It seems extremely obvious to me that Robik is the type of player who will leap to hard conclusions off little to no evidence (correctly or incorrectly). I have no idea why you'd think what he's doing is outside of his normal remit because i had never played with him and it's retarded and rayn knew it was retarded and didn't bother to point it out and just said "shit logic" "u bad" when all he had to do was do what you just did and point out that i was wrong to assume something like that, he perpetuated the argument by antagonising me. I think this is just a bona fide breakdown in communication between you two, because that is not how I'm reading it as I go through the thread. rayn is behaving and arguing like rayn, not like mafiarayn. He's making assumptions and starting from a base that you are not, you're getting mad about it, rayn keeps arguing because rayn will always argue, etc etc.
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On March 26 2014 16:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 14:50 thrawn2112 wrote: rayn I know that you have a lower opinion of my ability to read people than you do of HF's opinion. plus, calling holyflare "retarded like he was in las game" does not even make sense because last game holyflare caught mafia instantly
so you're givnig holyflare a town read based on a statement about his play last game which isn't accurate, and a "i think thrawn is smarter than HF so thrawn must be scum" argument when I know you repect HF's reads more than you do mine.
and like hf is saying, nothing you have said about robik has made any sense.
so what is going on? this is a legit good post for thrawn to make and he backed it up with research as well actually the post was terrible.
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