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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:24 GMT
#381
On March 26 2014 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 18:14 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:09 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar you just need to vote for thrawn.


still haven't heard why you wrote ahahaha

I'll be honest with you because you keep bringing this up again and again.
I don't need to convince anyone but marv because he is the one who will be listened to anyways.
So i am waiting for him to come here.


why not just post it so we can all read it...?

Because it doesn't mean shit. Why would i want to convince someone who is acting dumb and still has his vote on me despite agreeing with me on my lynch target? Or someone who has a case on me and who i think is mafia? The only people i can now convince are people who think i am mafia, and i don't give a fuck about people who think i am mafia. Noone else has said what they do think about my case so they don't need convincing (as they have not said they disagree).

I would rather convince other people, like marv who can sway every single vote.


my vote location is irrelevant, i obviously have come around to your idea of thrawn because i spent time checking his post to see if it add up which it didn't so stop being a dick again and explain it marv has eyes he will see it regardless of where you post it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:27 GMT
#382
you don't even know his alignment either, unless you are implying you do
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 09:34 GMT
#383
Everything in thrawn's post just enforces my case.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 26 2014 09:36 GMT
#384
On March 26 2014 14:50 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn I know that you have a lower opinion of my ability to read people than you do of HF's opinion. plus, calling holyflare "retarded like he was in las game" does not even make sense because last game holyflare caught mafia instantly

so you're givnig holyflare a town read based on a statement about his play last game which isn't accurate, and a "i think thrawn is smarter than HF so thrawn must be scum" argument when I know you repect HF's reads more than you do mine.

and like hf is saying, nothing you have said about robik has made any sense.

so what is going on?

You're vote was based on this, right?

Why is "ability to read people" == "smart"? I can't follow this argument at all. This is way to absolute.

Regarding Robik:

Rayn writes this post:

2) My "town wins this belt" post was indeed a town claim. I was happy rolling town and i don't give a fuck who else is town because i just find two mafia and then town wins the belt. I am also amused that Robik has called my alignment correctly out three times based on my usage / usagelessness. I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative but i am really interested in seeing is so some sort of psychic or what because i have a townread on him in this game. I don't believe Robik yet, i mean, i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong.


He never claims that this post is any reasoning on why he thinks that robik is town. However, you then ask him for a simple yes/no answer, explicitly not asking for reasons, and afterwards use that answer to claim that rayn is reading robik town because of the above post, although that is clearly not true.

And no, rayn did not give his reasons for townreading robik when HF grilled him, he gave it when I asked him for it. Which you never did, instead you just made an assumption and voted rayn.

##vote: thrawn2112
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:38 GMT
#385
what the hell do you mean by "this is way too absolute"?
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 26 2014 09:40 GMT
#386
Holyflare: rayn is always and under every circumstance gonna value your opinion/ability higher than thrawns.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:41 GMT
#387
On March 26 2014 18:40 phagga wrote:
Holyflare: rayn is always and under every circumstance gonna value your opinion/ability higher than thrawns.


well that is true?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 09:42 GMT
#388
This is the TLDR thrawn gives:

then read it again. he's making stuff up and not making any sense.

the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content...


If you read the content of his case and see if it matches up with the "TLDR;" he writes at the start of his post you'll notice:

red) i am not making up stuff anywhere and thrawn does not explain where i do it
blue) this is a part of my case. thrawn makes judgement calls on incomplete information. what i say is not scummy just because thrawn does not understand that. ne never cares what my intention of saying things i say is (which i have pointed out). also read my case why this is scummy for thrawn.
green) I didn't find this notable in the first place, it's just "this happened", does not say why i am mafia in any reasonable way, but what you pointed out in fact proves this in fact did not even happen as thrawn says it did.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 26 2014 09:42 GMT
#389
Is it? That would surprise me. So do you agree with thrawns argument there?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:43 GMT
#390
On March 26 2014 18:42 phagga wrote:
Is it? That would surprise me. So do you agree with thrawns argument there?


yes he even linked evidence to say why he thought that
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 09:45 GMT
#391
On March 26 2014 18:40 phagga wrote:
Holyflare: rayn is always and under every circumstance gonna value your opinion/ability higher than thrawns.

No necessarily true.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:46 GMT
#392
On March 26 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 18:40 phagga wrote:
Holyflare: rayn is always and under every circumstance gonna value your opinion/ability higher than thrawns.

No necessarily true.


well no not 100% of the time but thrawn doesn't say that to be the case
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:46 GMT
#393
phagga looking weird for picking out these reasons for thrawn being mafia though
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 26 2014 09:48 GMT
#394
On March 26 2014 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:40 phagga wrote:
Holyflare: rayn is always and under every circumstance gonna value your opinion/ability higher than thrawns.

No necessarily true.


well no not 100% of the time but thrawn doesn't say that to be the case

But he never considers the possibility of it not being true.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 09:48 GMT
#395
On March 26 2014 18:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 18:42 phagga wrote:
Is it? That would surprise me. So do you agree with thrawns argument there?


yes he even linked evidence to say why he thought that

That "evidence" is a pile of shit. If a random noob makes more sense than marv i value their opinion more than marv's. That's a pile of shit because everyone who has any idea of how i play does not buy that shit thrawn says as town, not even he himself.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:49 GMT
#396
because he defends you for not explaining your reasons when I ask and has eventually town read you but then uses the same argument for thrawn who is then mafia after you already explained your reasons and my reasons why he might be mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:50 GMT
#397
On March 26 2014 18:48 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:40 phagga wrote:
Holyflare: rayn is always and under every circumstance gonna value your opinion/ability higher than thrawns.

No necessarily true.


well no not 100% of the time but thrawn doesn't say that to be the case

But he never considers the possibility of it not being true.



what...? he says you'd value holy's opinion the majority of the time over mine which is mostly true, he never talks in absolutes?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 09:51 GMT
#398
On March 26 2014 18:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 18:43 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:42 phagga wrote:
Is it? That would surprise me. So do you agree with thrawns argument there?


yes he even linked evidence to say why he thought that

That "evidence" is a pile of shit. If a random noob makes more sense than marv i value their opinion more than marv's. That's a pile of shit because everyone who has any idea of how i play does not buy that shit thrawn says as town, not even he himself.


well no it's not a "pile of shit" it's you categorically stating that you follow my reads because bussing/right and then also stating that thrawn is a noob sooo no it's not a pile of shit
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 26 2014 09:51 GMT
#399
On March 26 2014 18:49 Holyflare wrote:
because he defends you for not explaining your reasons when I ask and has eventually town read you but then uses the same argument for thrawn who is then mafia after you already explained your reasons and my reasons why he might be mafia

I didn't defend him for not explaining his reasons, I said he's unnecessarily antagonizing you => it's wrong what he was doing there.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 09:52 GMT
#400
On March 26 2014 18:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 18:48 phagga wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 18:40 phagga wrote:
Holyflare: rayn is always and under every circumstance gonna value your opinion/ability higher than thrawns.

No necessarily true.


well no not 100% of the time but thrawn doesn't say that to be the case

But he never considers the possibility of it not being true.



what...? he says you'd value holy's opinion the majority of the time over mine which is mostly true, he never talks in absolutes?

Yes and that's not true and everyone knows that, including you and thrawn. Unless you have no idea how i play which i don't believe.
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