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On March 06 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2014 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Boone is a hard read on Forum mafia. She's very good at Video Mafia, but one thing I've noticed about her play in Video Mafia is that it's based EXCLUSIVELY on body reads. She has NEVER in my experience with her made a read based on what people have said, logic, contradictions, anything. She has SPECTACULAR reads....when they're made based on body reads.
That being said, I'm willing to give her more time to prove to at least me that she's just out of her medium here.
##Unvote
##Vote: Killing Why are you voting for Killing over ggtemplar? Money question. Some not so townie people are going after killing but almost no scummy people wanting to lynch templar right now (oats, VE, killing, austin - noone is going after him). That's the way I see it.
So wait, you're now calling me one of the scummy people not going after Templar?
What IS your read of me JAT?
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On March 06 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2014 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Boone is a hard read on Forum mafia. She's very good at Video Mafia, but one thing I've noticed about her play in Video Mafia is that it's based EXCLUSIVELY on body reads. She has NEVER in my experience with her made a read based on what people have said, logic, contradictions, anything. She has SPECTACULAR reads....when they're made based on body reads.
That being said, I'm willing to give her more time to prove to at least me that she's just out of her medium here.
##Unvote
##Vote: Killing Why are you voting for Killing over ggtemplar? Money question. Some not so townie people are going after killing but almost no scummy people wanting to lynch templar right now (oats, VE, killing, austin - noone is going after him). That's the way I see it.
you really think oats is mafia?
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This is retarded-
On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.
So is this-
On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.
If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.
On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.
Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.
On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen. Show nested quote + For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote. Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.
Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.
If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.
On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.
Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.
On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.
That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.
When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.
Also, I agree with this 100%:
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot
and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad
Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.
On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.
On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies. I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day. At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.
After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?
I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.
Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
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On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.
Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.
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On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.
I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.
Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?
Here are my updated reads:
Strong Town
Rob
Leaning Town:
Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion
Neutral
Grack
Oats
VE
Leaning Maf
Alakazam
Rayn
Strong Maf
Boone
I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify
There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.
Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.
Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this
VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin
Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.
Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.
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On March 06 2014 04:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2014 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Boone is a hard read on Forum mafia. She's very good at Video Mafia, but one thing I've noticed about her play in Video Mafia is that it's based EXCLUSIVELY on body reads. She has NEVER in my experience with her made a read based on what people have said, logic, contradictions, anything. She has SPECTACULAR reads....when they're made based on body reads.
That being said, I'm willing to give her more time to prove to at least me that she's just out of her medium here.
##Unvote
##Vote: Killing Why are you voting for Killing over ggtemplar? Money question. Some not so townie people are going after killing but almost no scummy people wanting to lynch templar right now (oats, VE, killing, austin - noone is going after him). That's the way I see it. So wait, you're now calling me one of the scummy people not going after Templar? What IS your read of me JAT?
Undecided. The amount of townreads has been rising for me recently and you are not one of them so that's why you are grouped with the remaining not townie people. I won't lynch you today though and maybe you can convince me N1 of your townieness?
Oats is also no townread so he is in the pool of scummy people.
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I think too dumb to be scum is a really dangerous tell to use btw.
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I am 99% certain I will not unvote ggtemplar
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On March 06 2014 03:59 austinmcc wrote:
oats, what useful stuff has alak posted? Like can you grab 2-3 posts of his that were useful? I want to peer into your soul here, because I've found him to not be useless, but ... I don't think slam has particularly pushed town forward or anything.
On March 04 2014 14:49 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 12:54 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys. Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign. Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads? Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia. In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players. That's not why she is scummy "Sorry for X, I see town is doing something and I made the observation, look I contribute. I'm not going to act on it, caveat caveat IF THAT IS OK WITH TOWN DO NOT LYNCH ME DO NOT LYNCH ME" That is why she is scummy.
On March 05 2014 13:33 Alakaslam wrote:
K rayn when you are back
Why GGTEMPLAR vs BOONETOWN?
What has boonetown done that she is not scummy to you or ggtemp that he is more scummy?
I miss my custom autocorrects for ppl's names.
See there is this thing, I must not vote ggtemplar unless I am convinced he is scum
he put the flattering portrait that failed
He called me monocle scum
On March 05 2014 18:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Well here is where the hypocrisy speech of motivation comes in.
Boone, if you are town, best thing to do is either defend, or, if your position is indefensible, start forming scum reads and put them out there. Because if you are town, your flip will confirm everything you said- which has a huge impact if you had suspicions. There is even slang associated with this phenomena; "the dead hate Alakaslam" etc.
I think these are all pretty ok posts, although there is somewhat less than I expected and all focusing around boone.
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omg i really hope you guys see, this is town templar. either forum mafia is not my game and i can't differentiate between the reads from forum and video at all, or this is the templar i know and love.
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Seriously JAT, why is GGTemp scum in your own words? Lynching by choosing whoever the scummy people arent voting for is a horrible way to play.
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On March 06 2014 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously JAT, why is GGTemp scum in your own words? Lynching by choosing whoever the scummy people arent voting for is a horrible way to play.
I disagree. Why are you defending him that hard? Why do you think he is town in your own words, oats?
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On March 06 2014 04:11 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously JAT, why is GGTemp scum in your own words? Lynching by choosing whoever the scummy people arent voting for is a horrible way to play. I disagree. Why are you defending him that hard? Why do you think he is town in your own words, oats?
i just said earlier. dude.
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On March 05 2014 18:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Since i see no reason why we should be even talking in our mason group i'll post this all here:
austinmcc:
trolls, says him and rayn are bad at reading each other and will most likely accuse each other when both town
austinmcc:
possibly mafia here, unlikely rayn/boone both mafia. Says we want possibly bring this QT into the thread at some point. Is happy to keep it as a secret for now.
austinmcc
asks if boone has played here before, says hasn't been paying attention lately (i assume this is for games played on TL)
raynpelikoneet:
Hi austin! Why no pictures in thread? Also any early reads?
boonetown
hello!!!
austinmcc
Says pictures is bad idea. no early reads, doesn't want to lynch Palmar on D1 unless he is inactive. Would kill Slam/Grack atm in order to get more legible thread but not because they are scummy.
raynpelikoneet
Did you read my posts in thread? Especially the second one?
raynpelikoneet
I have a question austin. Do you think it's a good idea to use this QT yet?
boonetown
Says she posted mason group in htread, does not feel like group is helping town atm. She thinks rayn is town. Thinks austin is not helping the town atm.
austinmcc
Thinks it's a good idea to use QT. Doesn't have an idea how to use it for now, just a nice discussion tool.
austinmcc
bitches about boone outing the group. Thinks it was a bad idea because it does not help the town to know about the group. Asks boone why reveal.
austinmcc
Says JAT not scum if anyone in here is scum. Says JAT feels genuine in his frustration and questions about the reveal.
austinmcc
Asks boone(?) do answer in here what she thinks town gains from being told about the QT. And maybe what scum gains and why town gains more than scum.
boonetown
Because she needs town to trust her, and this seemed like a great way to do so. Says all of town is against her and they are wrong. Says she can be very helpful and useful further on. She is frustrated because game is hard and because people misreepresent her. says she is looking scummier by the second and she know this... asks what to do. Says she did what she thought was the best thing to do.
austinmcc
tells boone to scumhunt and do things she thinks is best for the town. Asks boone the "why" question again.
austinmcc
asks Boone about if she thinks Palmar is still as townie as before.
boonetown
Says Palmar needs to post more to maintain his towniness, has no reason to take him off her list. Also thinks Rob is town and Templar mafia.
austinmcc
Asks if everyone going after templar bother her.
boonetown
Not really.
Asks about austin's vote on her. (i don't understand what she's talking about - something like austin didn't follow the thread sentiment but voted for her and that's contradicting)
boonetown
clarifies that austin did not vote for her but also didn't defend her.
austinmcc
says the situations are different. says GG is being called mafia for doing nothing and boone is called mafia for doing things people find scummy.
austinmcc
explains why boone is being voted for. asks boone about her opinion on templar.
austinmcc
Rephrases; Does boone think austin should have same reaction to boone/templar being called scum.
boonetown
defends herself based on "if the two of us or all of us in this group are town then this is useful group" and that's why austin should have been interested in knowing why people jumped on her.
boonetown
doesn't understand why people call her scum, asks austin to elaborate.
austinmcc
Posted about liking VE, not wanting to rng yet. Posted some responses to people which templar has not done. In comparsion boone is called scum for her actions, templar because he hasn't done anything.
austinmcc
Says he would like to know the alignment's of everyone in this QT.
Clarifies what something might tell about someone (really fucking useless post i don't get anything about it).
raynpelikoneet
austin i have no idea what you are doing right now..
raynpelikoneet
There is literally no fucking reason to use this QT until there is a confirmed town in here. That's not possible on D1, so don't use this thing, post your shit in thread.
and that's our QT so far.
Crapcrapcrap checking if deadline, then unvote
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On March 06 2014 04:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2014 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously JAT, why is GGTemp scum in your own words? Lynching by choosing whoever the scummy people arent voting for is a horrible way to play. I disagree. Why are you defending him that hard? Why do you think he is town in your own words, oats? i just said earlier. dude.
You said his "burst of activity" makes him town. Wow, such detailed read.
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On March 06 2014 04:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Temp is town as fuck
Please elaborate.
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Vote Count!
GGTeMpLaR (3): Dandel Ion, justanothertownie, raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster, Killing, Alakaslam, boonetown, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam
boonetown (2): Alakaslam, Dandel Ion, GGTeMpLaR, Alakaslam, Palmar, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Alakaslam, VisceraEyes
VisceraEyes (1): Grackaroni, Palmar, Alakaslam, Dandel Ion
Dandel Ion: (1): IAmRobik
austinmcc (1): boonetown
Killing (1) Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion
Rayn (0): GGTeMpLaR
GGTeMpLaR is the current lynch target. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Everyone is required to vote.
Not voting (4): GGTeMpLaR, Killing, austinmcc, Alakaslam
If any votes are missing or incorrect please let us know!
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trololol are all the scum not voting? 
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I also said that his reaction test felt real and it lead to reads on people which is good. Also lately he has ben trying to figure out the game.
Your turn JAT, why is ggtemp scum?
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Voting Killing. As misguided as Temp is, that last post reads as pretty townie, so Killing it is. Rob's post on his contradiction regarding Boone is the strongest evidence in the thread imo, and everyone should have a look.
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