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On March 02 2014 16:05 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 08:43 gumshoe wrote:On March 02 2014 02:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 01 2014 00:21 gumshoe wrote: Oh and hes been absent since lynch as others have pointed out 0_o seriously guys, if Vax shoots me tonight Jar Jar better be bloody dead by night 3. Oh really Vet? Oh I missed this XD easy question to answer. Say Vivax does shoot me, then we get no mishots and we have too confirmed townies, I was just trying to bait his shot. I was also trying to imply that I was blue via my confidence that Vivax's shot wouldnt go off, in hopes scum would shoot me minus an rb. To be honest, I really doubted VIvax's claim ) : I was vet, I thought there was a cop cause of the god father and 3 blues(one bieng vig, another dt) seems really op for 10/3. Basically getting shot was win win, just so long as I wasnt role blocked, which is why I couldnt just come out and say I was vet. With Vivax's shot gone, the rber dead, and scum basically trying to use me as thier endgame mislynch, there was no reason not to claim. So I did, because unless theres a reason not to I am always as transparent as possible when town. Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 08:52 gumshoe wrote:On March 02 2014 08:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 02 2014 08:46 gumshoe wrote: I mean Jar, I need you to acknowledge that I just demolished your fake vt argument. I had clear reasons for everything I did N1, and I'm glad you gave me the chance to air them ( : Why did you claim? Because there was no reason not to. Rb is dead, I know for a fact scum wont shoot me because they NEED me to get mislynched. If I can afford to be transparent I always will be. you're contridicting yourself
NOW they won't shoot me, I was trying to crumb blue night one by implying I knew Vivax wasn't vig( via knowledge of my own role) at the same time I wouldn't mind getting shot by Vivax cause double confirmed. That's why I didn't claim night 1. but because rayn was shot, it implies they're trying to make me look bad and need me to get a mislynch, and vigs shot is gone so my bullet ain't coming from there either.
I would not reveal my role if I was not confident that it would have more use as a claim then as a power. like how rayn revealed parity cop d1 in a game we recently played because the likelihood of it getting as much value as the claim itself was minimal.Oh and your nitpicking shit that doesn't matter again cause "look guys, an inconsistency this guy has to be scum!"
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On March 02 2014 16:36 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 12:07 Cavalinho wrote:On March 02 2014 08:28 gumshoe wrote: Their are still some unanswered questions, like why Cava yolod onto Moc to save suki, or how Geript called Toad was scum from virtually nothing (dude seriously deserves mvp if hes town, which he likely is.) and why toad let the vig shot through and claimed an undetermined read on Cava. Wether or not Chyz is noobie scum that got hard bussed by his gf does not deserve to be regarded amongst these other mysteries. No, it was totally answered. Go filter dive and stop wasting my time. No, I actually really want to revisit this. What is the purpose of this statement if you're being rhetorical? It seems like the whole purpose behind it is to open up the possibility of more lynches.
The whole purpose behind it is to close a lynch. Chyz is 100 percent town. You are not. I do not need to open up your lynch. It is a book sprung open for all to see going on days now. As for Geript, I retract my statement, he too is 100 percent town because he is defending people, you and jar jar have been doing nothing but trying to throw the lynch off of yourselves. Which is what scum need to do, to clear anyone in this situation is disadvantageous to them especially cause there's no one left in the game they want to defend. Geript defending jar jar and still wanting longer days makes no sense if he's scum, because both hurt his odds of back to back mislynches. Sorry I ever doubted you Geript ) : your just really good at this game XD.
As for you cav, it's this simple, mafia went all out to save their gf, you and jar were on Moc, your both going to die if that's what it takes, we are going to win.
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On March 03 2014 00:15 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 16:36 Cavalinho wrote:On March 02 2014 12:07 Cavalinho wrote:On March 02 2014 08:28 gumshoe wrote: Their are still some unanswered questions, like why Cava yolod onto Moc to save suki, or how Geript called Toad was scum from virtually nothing (dude seriously deserves mvp if hes town, which he likely is.) and why toad let the vig shot through and claimed an undetermined read on Cava. Wether or not Chyz is noobie scum that got hard bussed by his gf does not deserve to be regarded amongst these other mysteries. No, it was totally answered. Go filter dive and stop wasting my time. No, I actually really want to revisit this. What is the purpose of this statement if you're being rhetorical? It seems like the whole purpose behind it is to open up the possibility of more lynches. The whole purpose behind it is to close a lynch. Chyz is 100 percent town. You are not. I do not need to open up your lynch. It is a book sprung open for all to see going on days now. As for Geript, I retract my statement, he too is 100 percent town because he is defending people, you and jar jar have been doing nothing but trying to throw the lynch off of yourselves. Which is what scum need to do, to clear anyone in this situation is disadvantageous to them especially cause there's no one left in the game they want to defend. Geript defending jar jar and still wanting longer days makes no sense if he's scum, because both hurt his odds of back to back mislynches. Sorry I ever doubted you Geript ) : your just really good at this game XD. As for you cav, it's this simple, mafia went all out to save their gf, you and jar were on Moc, your both going to die if that's what it takes, we are going to win.
Okay. Then why would you make a rhetorical statement doubting someone that's 100% town?
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And for the record, JJD fits your own desription of what mafia is. He's pushing on both you and TheChyz, who is, by your own admission, 100% town.
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On March 03 2014 00:35 Cavalinho wrote: And for the record, JJD fits your own desription of what mafia is. He's pushing on both you and TheChyz, who is, by your own admission, 100% town.
THAT IS WHY I AM VOTING HIM CURRENTLY. One of you is scum. GGGGGG.
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On March 03 2014 00:33 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 00:15 gumshoe wrote:On March 02 2014 16:36 Cavalinho wrote:On March 02 2014 12:07 Cavalinho wrote:On March 02 2014 08:28 gumshoe wrote: Their are still some unanswered questions, like why Cava yolod onto Moc to save suki, or how Geript called Toad was scum from virtually nothing (dude seriously deserves mvp if hes town, which he likely is.) and why toad let the vig shot through and claimed an undetermined read on Cava. Wether or not Chyz is noobie scum that got hard bussed by his gf does not deserve to be regarded amongst these other mysteries. No, it was totally answered. Go filter dive and stop wasting my time. No, I actually really want to revisit this. What is the purpose of this statement if you're being rhetorical? It seems like the whole purpose behind it is to open up the possibility of more lynches. The whole purpose behind it is to close a lynch. Chyz is 100 percent town. You are not. I do not need to open up your lynch. It is a book sprung open for all to see going on days now. As for Geript, I retract my statement, he too is 100 percent town because he is defending people, you and jar jar have been doing nothing but trying to throw the lynch off of yourselves. Which is what scum need to do, to clear anyone in this situation is disadvantageous to them especially cause there's no one left in the game they want to defend. Geript defending jar jar and still wanting longer days makes no sense if he's scum, because both hurt his odds of back to back mislynches. Sorry I ever doubted you Geript ) : your just really good at this game XD. As for you cav, it's this simple, mafia went all out to save their gf, you and jar were on Moc, your both going to die if that's what it takes, we are going to win. Okay. Then why would you make a rhetorical statement doubting someone that's 100% town?
Because he hasn't been defending Jar that long, it clicked recently. Keep asking pointless questions, see where it gets you.
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On March 03 2014 00:06 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 16:05 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 02 2014 08:43 gumshoe wrote:On March 02 2014 02:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 01 2014 00:21 gumshoe wrote: Oh and hes been absent since lynch as others have pointed out 0_o seriously guys, if Vax shoots me tonight Jar Jar better be bloody dead by night 3. Oh really Vet? Oh I missed this XD easy question to answer. Say Vivax does shoot me, then we get no mishots and we have too confirmed townies, I was just trying to bait his shot. I was also trying to imply that I was blue via my confidence that Vivax's shot wouldnt go off, in hopes scum would shoot me minus an rb. To be honest, I really doubted VIvax's claim ) : I was vet, I thought there was a cop cause of the god father and 3 blues(one bieng vig, another dt) seems really op for 10/3. Basically getting shot was win win, just so long as I wasnt role blocked, which is why I couldnt just come out and say I was vet. With Vivax's shot gone, the rber dead, and scum basically trying to use me as thier endgame mislynch, there was no reason not to claim. So I did, because unless theres a reason not to I am always as transparent as possible when town. On March 02 2014 08:52 gumshoe wrote:On March 02 2014 08:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 02 2014 08:46 gumshoe wrote: I mean Jar, I need you to acknowledge that I just demolished your fake vt argument. I had clear reasons for everything I did N1, and I'm glad you gave me the chance to air them ( : Why did you claim? Because there was no reason not to. Rb is dead, I know for a fact scum wont shoot me because they NEED me to get mislynched. If I can afford to be transparent I always will be. you're contridicting yourself NOW they won't shoot me, I was trying to crumb blue night one by implying I knew Vivax wasn't vig( via knowledge of my own role) at the same time I wouldn't mind getting shot by Vivax cause double confirmed. That's why I didn't claim night 1. but because rayn was shot, it implies they're trying to make me look bad and need me to get a mislynch, and vigs shot is gone so my bullet ain't coming from there either. I would not reveal my role if I was not confident that it would have more use as a claim then as a power. like how rayn revealed parity cop d1 in a game we recently played because the likelihood of it getting as much value as the claim itself was minimal.Oh and your nitpicking shit that doesn't matter again cause "look guys, an inconsistency this guy has to be scum!" What do you mean NOW they wont shoot you? Why would they have shot you last light but not tonight?
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On March 03 2014 00:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 00:06 gumshoe wrote:On March 02 2014 16:05 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 02 2014 08:43 gumshoe wrote:On March 02 2014 02:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 01 2014 00:21 gumshoe wrote: Oh and hes been absent since lynch as others have pointed out 0_o seriously guys, if Vax shoots me tonight Jar Jar better be bloody dead by night 3. Oh really Vet? Oh I missed this XD easy question to answer. Say Vivax does shoot me, then we get no mishots and we have too confirmed townies, I was just trying to bait his shot. I was also trying to imply that I was blue via my confidence that Vivax's shot wouldnt go off, in hopes scum would shoot me minus an rb. To be honest, I really doubted VIvax's claim ) : I was vet, I thought there was a cop cause of the god father and 3 blues(one bieng vig, another dt) seems really op for 10/3. Basically getting shot was win win, just so long as I wasnt role blocked, which is why I couldnt just come out and say I was vet. With Vivax's shot gone, the rber dead, and scum basically trying to use me as thier endgame mislynch, there was no reason not to claim. So I did, because unless theres a reason not to I am always as transparent as possible when town. On March 02 2014 08:52 gumshoe wrote:On March 02 2014 08:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 02 2014 08:46 gumshoe wrote: I mean Jar, I need you to acknowledge that I just demolished your fake vt argument. I had clear reasons for everything I did N1, and I'm glad you gave me the chance to air them ( : Why did you claim? Because there was no reason not to. Rb is dead, I know for a fact scum wont shoot me because they NEED me to get mislynched. If I can afford to be transparent I always will be. you're contridicting yourself NOW they won't shoot me, I was trying to crumb blue night one by implying I knew Vivax wasn't vig( via knowledge of my own role) at the same time I wouldn't mind getting shot by Vivax cause double confirmed. That's why I didn't claim night 1. but because rayn was shot, it implies they're trying to make me look bad and need me to get a mislynch, and vigs shot is gone so my bullet ain't coming from there either. I would not reveal my role if I was not confident that it would have more use as a claim then as a power. like how rayn revealed parity cop d1 in a game we recently played because the likelihood of it getting as much value as the claim itself was minimal.Oh and your nitpicking shit that doesn't matter again cause "look guys, an inconsistency this guy has to be scum!" What do you mean NOW they wont shoot you? Why would they have shot you last light but not tonight?
A) I crumbed blue last night based off my knowledge that Vivax isn't vig. Vivax's shot proves I'm full of it, making a shot on me less likely, b) They shot Rayn, the guy who said I'm "scary" and they prioritised him over Vivax, who is now confirmed town, which means they are trying to throw suspicion onto me. C) They NEED mislynches, my mislynch is a requirement for thier win now. They will never shoot me. This is my thought process, if you cant see it thats purely because you refuse not to.
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ebwop at the end, just to, not not to.
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Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not.
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On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote: Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not.
I think both of us are town and JJD is just trying to push us to lynch each other.
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On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote: Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not. If you believe that vivax might have shot you then don't you think he would have been roleblocked if I was scum? Cause if you get shot, I'm obviously the next lynch.
I still haven't seen one good reason why they let the vig shoot that could possibly mean I'm scum.
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On March 03 2014 01:05 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote: Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not. I think both of us are town and JJD is just trying to push us to lynch each other. How the F am I trying to push anyone to lynch you. I haven't called you scum @ all. I even told vivax to remove you off his lynch list.
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I think it's dumb to think you're scum for the same reason it's dumb to think I am. I can't image an entire scum team piling their votes up together. I think there's either 1 bus on the suki wagon or Chyz is scum cause of reasons already stated.
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On March 03 2014 01:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote: Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not. If you believe that vivax might have shot you then don't you think he would have been roleblocked if I was scum? Cause if you get shot, I'm obviously the next lynch. I still haven't seen one good reason why they let the vig shoot that could possibly mean I'm scum.
What 0_o What does my alignment have to do with yours? Jar Jar, we could both be town, it's possible, I strongly believe your scum, but I've been wrong before (see basterd mafia.). The fact that you honestly bilieve that one of us HAS to be scum is revealing. Besides, you were likely to get lynched today anyways XD you dont need my flip for that.
Also, are you actually fighting my honest motivation with your hypothetical scum one? I thought you were desperate before but this takes the cake. As for the vig shot, it's simple, when your in a bad spot, you have to take a risk to win, scum NEEDED that shot to hit a townie, it didn't, end of story.
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On March 03 2014 01:12 JarJarDrinks wrote: I think it's dumb to think you're scum for the same reason it's dumb to think I am. I can't image an entire scum team piling their votes up together. I think there's either 1 bus on the suki wagon or Chyz is scum cause of reasons already stated.
Positioning might have not left them a choice, you said yourself, if I was scum, I wouldnt be able to switch onto moc to save suki because of the position I had taken, if scum were supporting Suki all game, the correct move was to stay consistent. That and the fact that the vote was 5 5 supports a scum pile on.
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I'm phoneposting, so no quotes sorry. I read through the game and went through the filters of the 4 people I felt least sure about from just reading the thread: Cav, Chyz, gumshoe and JJD.
I don't believe scum voted for suki. It's far too early for a bus and uncalled for. And with Toad voting Moc, I think it proves that they were trying to save her instead of bussing her for some town cred.
Due to that I don't think gumshoe is scum. His filter also showed how he refuted suki's case on Chyz. If he was scum he should have given her an option to move the lynch to Chyz. Instead he had his case on JJD and made a reasonable vote switch to suki. I think he is town.
For similar reasons I believe Chyz is town. Although he had Toad as a town read and tried to discredit geript's case on Toad, he had the chance to vote for Moc. He could have saved suki but he chose to keep his vote on geript which would be really stupid as scum.
Although Cav vote switched away from suki to Moc, I can see this behaviour coming from the newbie player he claims to be. And in his filter he confused Toad with WoS. Which I don't think would happen if he was scum with Toad. I am less confident in calling him town though compared to the other two, so it's more of a slightly town/maybe nullish read.
Which leaves JJD. I think I'm repeating what others already said before: He had gumshoe marked as scum with the possibility of a gumshow & suki scum team but chose to vote Moc instead of suki. I feel like I found something that exonerated the other three of being scum but there is nothing in JJD's filter that makes me feel like this. By process of elimination JJD is my last scum.
#Vote: JarJarDrinks
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On March 03 2014 01:19 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 01:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote: Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not. If you believe that vivax might have shot you then don't you think he would have been roleblocked if I was scum? Cause if you get shot, I'm obviously the next lynch. I still haven't seen one good reason why they let the vig shoot that could possibly mean I'm scum. What 0_o What does my alignment have to do with yours? Jar Jar, we could both be town, it's possible, I strongly believe your scum, but I've been wrong before (see basterd mafia.). The fact that you honestly bilieve that one of us HAS to be scum is revealing. Besides, you were likely to get lynched today anyways XD you dont need my flip for that. Also, are you actually fighting my honest motivation with your hypothetical scum one? I thought you were desperate before but this takes the cake. As for the vig shot, it's simple, when your in a bad spot, you have to take a risk to win, scum NEEDED that shot to hit a townie, it didn't, end of story. WHAT!???? where am I implying that one of us has to be scum?
You're the one who called me "100% scum"
You're the one who said "If JJD flips green, lynch me next" /paraphrasing
You're the one who refused to talk to me because you don't talk to scum"
Please explain how I went from 100% scum where you say to lynch you if you're wrong to "I strongly believe your scum, but I've been wrong before "
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I'm also not too sure about geript. If JJD is not the last scum, I'll go back to re-read his filter to see if I would change my mind but for now he is a lesser sure town read.
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On March 03 2014 01:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 01:19 gumshoe wrote:On March 03 2014 01:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:On March 03 2014 00:59 gumshoe wrote: Also Vivax might have shot me, but now thats out of the question to, the role is worthless, the claim is not. If you believe that vivax might have shot you then don't you think he would have been roleblocked if I was scum? Cause if you get shot, I'm obviously the next lynch. I still haven't seen one good reason why they let the vig shoot that could possibly mean I'm scum. What 0_o What does my alignment have to do with yours? Jar Jar, we could both be town, it's possible, I strongly believe your scum, but I've been wrong before (see basterd mafia.). The fact that you honestly bilieve that one of us HAS to be scum is revealing. Besides, you were likely to get lynched today anyways XD you dont need my flip for that. Also, are you actually fighting my honest motivation with your hypothetical scum one? I thought you were desperate before but this takes the cake. As for the vig shot, it's simple, when your in a bad spot, you have to take a risk to win, scum NEEDED that shot to hit a townie, it didn't, end of story. WHAT!???? where am I implying that one of us has to be scum? You're the one who called me "100% scum" You're the one who said "If JJD flips green, lynch me next" /paraphrasingYou're the one who refused to talk to me because you don't talk to scum" Please explain how I went from 100% scum where you say to lynch you if you're wrong to "I strongly believe your scum, but I've been wrong before "
The fact that you think my alignment (which is clear enough already) would make your lynch more likely, implies that from your perspective, one of us has to be scum. The reason I've been wavering is because cav looks pretty bad as well, toads dt read on him could have only been a green read, because a red read doesnt help him win the game. Its possible your town and hes scum, but I still think your my man XD
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