Ok, I read Vivax's filter from Night 1 again. So he bascially names Toad, gumshoe, geript, (JJD) and myself as scummy. If we assume that scum tried to keep the risk of getting shot at a minimum, someone from Vivax's town list would have to be scum. Is that what you are hinting at Holyflare?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 02 2014 17:04 GMT

#2322

On March 03 2014 01:51 Ange777 wrote:
About Vivax: I myself wouldn't have guessed that Vivax was actually going to shoot Toad. So it could have been a risk scum was willing to take. Even if I take this into consideration I don't see how this would change my reads on them. Or am I missing something said by Vivax that would actually influence this?

Why haven't you cast your vote yet HF? What do you think about my reads?

honestly? because i've been super duper lazy and i'm pretty sure we win if we just lynch into those 4 you mentioned so i've kinda ignored this game

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 02 2014 17:08 GMT

#2323

On March 03 2014 02:03 Ange777 wrote:
Ok, I read Vivax's filter from Night 1 again. So he bascially names Toad, gumshoe, geript, (JJD) and myself as scummy. If we assume that scum tried to keep the risk of getting shot at a minimum, someone from Vivax's town list would have to be scum. Is that what you are hinting at Holyflare?

something like that

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 02 2014 17:10 GMT

#2324

like if we assume they didnt rb vivax and those were the names then it is likely that jjd, gumshoe (only briefly mentioned so not confident he should be here), geript are town because that minimises the risk of toad being shot and so scum is someone like cav, chyz, someone on wagon

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

March 02 2014 17:10 GMT

#2325

For those claiming Jar would not let the shot go through, here are Qoutes form Vivax on night 1.

Cuz I'm running out of alternatives for ppl being scum. I'm basically at gum, geript, Toad, JJD atm and I explained why JJD is somewhat unlikely.

The one you want me to touch upon is that I think JJD wouldn't go all out and simply call her town when being poked for it

Gumshoe I'm not scum and if you didn't realize it by now regardless of the claim then I fear that your JJD read is equally bad

Gum, JJD just brought up a strong point which illustrates why you brought yourself into a situation where you could only bus if you are scum.

If anything, Vivax was more likely to shoot me (which is exactly what I wanted) rather then Jar Jar. It was a pretty safe bet for him to let the shot go through.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 02 2014 17:12 GMT

#2326

oh he ruled out jjd :/?

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

March 02 2014 17:13 GMT

#2327

On March 03 2014 02:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:

Show nested quote +

Whaaa....? What about Moc? And Me? And Suki?

Did you forget your persona this game and think you were town for a second?

Shut the fuck up XD I've had nam flash backs concerning Basterd mafia, its shook my faith, but your doing a good job keeping me resolved : P

Ange777

Germany1164 Posts

March 02 2014 17:14 GMT

#2328

He didn't rule him out completely but posted the following: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444078&currentpage=97#1932

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

March 02 2014 17:16 GMT

#2329

Like, Toad was able to infer from less that Vivax wasnt going to shoot him (poor guy) the fact that Vivax openly expressed doubts about Jar Jar bieng scum seems more than enough motivation for him to let the shot through. Also Jar Jar, you claim I shot rayn cause he was onto me, Vivax was equally suspicious, more so in fact and hes confirmed town...Why the hell would I let him live? WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW.

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

March 02 2014 17:18 GMT

#2330

On March 03 2014 02:14 Ange777 wrote:
He didn't rule him out completely but posted the following: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444078&currentpage=97#1932

Ange, if you were scum, do you think Vivax would shoot you going by that post?

JarJarDrinks

United States1302 Posts

March 02 2014 17:19 GMT

#2331

I actually didn't realize vivax was that sure of me. Good shit vivax, ur an intelligent player.

But I just realized, unless my math is off. We get 4 lynches not 3. So I don't really care much cause no way gumshoe makes it to endgame.

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

March 02 2014 17:23 GMT

#2332

On March 03 2014 02:19 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I actually didn't realize vivax was that sure of me. Good shit vivax, ur an intelligent player.

But I just realized, unless my math is off. We get 4 lynches not 3. So I don't really care much cause no way gumshoe makes it to endgame.

yesssssss, goooooood sleep now sweet prince ( : you've fought long and hard enough. Let the current carry you away to scum heaven :D

Ange777

Germany1164 Posts

March 02 2014 17:26 GMT

#2333

You mean the post where Vivax attacked me? No, I assumed he was faking more scum reads to enlarge the range of possible targets for scum. I know my play this game hasn't been overwhelming but I think it's quite clear that I am town and I do think that Vivax has a town read on me as well.

If you do mean the post I linked, I definitely wouldn't have assumed he might shoot me because he didn't even mention me at all.

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

March 02 2014 17:26 GMT

#2334

On March 03 2014 02:26 Ange777 wrote:
You mean the post where Vivax attacked me? No, I assumed he was faking more scum reads to enlarge the range of possible targets for scum. I know my play this game hasn't been overwhelming but I think it's quite clear that I am town and I do think that Vivax has a town read on me as well.

If you do mean the post I linked, I definitely wouldn't have assumed he might shoot me because he didn't even mention me at all.

I meant if you were Jar Jar XD