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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 20 2014 08:28 pigmanbear wrote: Wow this Toodming guy isnt looking good at all. Overlord speed before baneling nest?
Scarlett makes same thing, what's the problem?
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United States23455 Posts
That first push from Heart stunted Toodming's creep spread so hard. He killed like 10-20 active tumors.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
oh god please just try and set up a flank or something it is painful as a zerg to watch these engagements
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Much better game by Toodming this time. But when 3-3 finishes, he will be in trouble
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your Country52796 Posts
On February 20 2014 08:32 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 08:28 The_Templar wrote:On February 20 2014 08:24 The_Templar wrote:On February 20 2014 08:21 The_Templar wrote:Heart spawns in the top left Toodming spawns in the bottom left 2:00 Barracks followed by a refinery for Heart. Toodming going hatchery first, then gas/pool. Heart starting reaper production. 3:00 First reaper finishes for Heart, second one on the way. CC on the low ground for Heart. Toodming getting zergling speed and 6 zerglings. Queens for Toodming are late. 4:00 Heart getting a factory. Second reaper joins the first one. Toodming positioning his queens at his natural while parking his zerglings at the cliff. 5:00 Third CC for Heart. Heart starting a starport while reactoring his factory. Heart building hellions. Toodming finishing up zergling speed. Tech lab on the barracks. 6:00 Heart 36 vs TooDming 47 Toodming taking the forward third. Banshee on the way for Heart. Toodming getting another queen. Heart still building hellions, sending his first two out. 7:00 Heart 50 vs TooDming 50 Two evolution chambers on the way for Toodming, who's still making drones. Toodming getting a spore crawler next to his third hatchery. Zergling production starting. +1/1 for Toodming. Heart making a viking. 8:00 Heart 70 vs TooDming 72 Heart researching stim. Heart moving out towards the middle with a banshee and hellions, and two reapers. Heart arrives at Toodming's base but there are lots of zerglings and three queens. Heart has about 10 hellions. 9:00 Heart 80 vs TooDming 80 Lots of zerglings and some drones die. More zerglings being produced but Toodming can't get a proper surround. Third CC landing below an overlord. 10:00 Heart 92 vs TooDming 85 Spire and a baneling nest for Toodming. +1/1 being researched by Heart. Toodming getting a fourth hatchery. Viking killing an overlord. 11:00 Heart 118 vs TooDming 95 Toodming getting +2/2 and a baneling nest. Widow mine production starting. Heart moving into the third and killing all the queens while Toodming counterattacks. 12:00 Heart 138 vs TooDming 109 Banelings without speed and zerglings trying to hold off the hellions without queen support. Heart parked at the watchtower but has to lift. Mutalisks being produced now. 13:00 Heart 149 vs TooDming 117 Heart moving into the 4th where there are no drones. +2/2 and marauder/concussive shells for Heart. Another push, with widow mines, towards the third base. 14:00 Heart 156 vs TooDming 139 Hellbats being made. Toodming catches Heart's army out of position and killing a few units, chasing him to his third base. Both players on 75ish workers. Drop on Toodming's fourth base. 15:00 Heart 175 vs TooDming 166 Toodming catches two medivacs of units and kills them. Blue flame and +1 mech weapons for Heart, and more hellbats. Toodming has lots of banelings and can push heart's next push back. 16:00 Heart 179 vs TooDming 173 +3/3 for Heart. Toodming getting a hive. Heart going for another push while Toodming counters with banelings.
17:00 Heart 192 vs TooDming 189 Mutalisks harassing the natural. Heart engages on creep and gets pushed back again. Mutalisks going the rest of the army. Fifth base for Toodming.
18:00 Heart 174 vs TooDming 190 Banelings killing lots of marines in the center, but the mutalisks can't stick around. Ultralisk cavern and 3/3 for Toodming.
19:00 Heart 165 vs TooDming 167 Heart killing creep so he can land his 4th base. Adrenal glands for Toodming. Heart getting a thor.
20:00 Heart 181 vs TooDming 192 Drop on the fourth of toodming kills a spore crawler. Pathogen glands beomg researched, and ultralisk armor. Mutalisks getting to a somewhat exposed fourth, heart doesn't save enought marines to defend. Heart pushing for the 5th.
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That is a really bad place to engage in. I always see terrans get smashed on that high ground. No room to kite
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Argh. My Protoss brain doesn't know who is winning....
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On February 20 2014 08:37 Mozdk wrote: Argh. My Protoss brain doesn't know who is winning.... Heart, probably. Not a crushing lead, but he looks solid atm.
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United States23455 Posts
On February 20 2014 08:37 Squat wrote: That is a really bad place to engage in. I always see terrans get smashed on that high ground. No room to kite It's better for TvP, because you can deny mining and you have high ground advantage to use vikings v colossi and ghosts v templar. Plus you can kite back to that narrow bridge which sucks for chargelots.
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your Country52796 Posts
On February 20 2014 08:36 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 08:32 The_Templar wrote:On February 20 2014 08:28 The_Templar wrote:On February 20 2014 08:24 The_Templar wrote:On February 20 2014 08:21 The_Templar wrote:Heart spawns in the top left Toodming spawns in the bottom left 2:00 Barracks followed by a refinery for Heart. Toodming going hatchery first, then gas/pool. Heart starting reaper production. 3:00 First reaper finishes for Heart, second one on the way. CC on the low ground for Heart. Toodming getting zergling speed and 6 zerglings. Queens for Toodming are late. 4:00 Heart getting a factory. Second reaper joins the first one. Toodming positioning his queens at his natural while parking his zerglings at the cliff. 5:00 Third CC for Heart. Heart starting a starport while reactoring his factory. Heart building hellions. Toodming finishing up zergling speed. Tech lab on the barracks. 6:00 Heart 36 vs TooDming 47 Toodming taking the forward third. Banshee on the way for Heart. Toodming getting another queen. Heart still building hellions, sending his first two out. 7:00 Heart 50 vs TooDming 50 Two evolution chambers on the way for Toodming, who's still making drones. Toodming getting a spore crawler next to his third hatchery. Zergling production starting. +1/1 for Toodming. Heart making a viking. 8:00 Heart 70 vs TooDming 72 Heart researching stim. Heart moving out towards the middle with a banshee and hellions, and two reapers. Heart arrives at Toodming's base but there are lots of zerglings and three queens. Heart has about 10 hellions. 9:00 Heart 80 vs TooDming 80 Lots of zerglings and some drones die. More zerglings being produced but Toodming can't get a proper surround. Third CC landing below an overlord. 10:00 Heart 92 vs TooDming 85 Spire and a baneling nest for Toodming. +1/1 being researched by Heart. Toodming getting a fourth hatchery. Viking killing an overlord. 11:00 Heart 118 vs TooDming 95 Toodming getting +2/2 and a baneling nest. Widow mine production starting. Heart moving into the third and killing all the queens while Toodming counterattacks. 12:00 Heart 138 vs TooDming 109 Banelings without speed and zerglings trying to hold off the hellions without queen support. Heart parked at the watchtower but has to lift. Mutalisks being produced now. 13:00 Heart 149 vs TooDming 117 Heart moving into the 4th where there are no drones. +2/2 and marauder/concussive shells for Heart. Another push, with widow mines, towards the third base. 14:00 Heart 156 vs TooDming 139 Hellbats being made. Toodming catches Heart's army out of position and killing a few units, chasing him to his third base. Both players on 75ish workers. Drop on Toodming's fourth base. 15:00 Heart 175 vs TooDming 166 Toodming catches two medivacs of units and kills them. Blue flame and +1 mech weapons for Heart, and more hellbats. Toodming has lots of banelings and can push heart's next push back. 16:00 Heart 179 vs TooDming 173 +3/3 for Heart. Toodming getting a hive. Heart going for another push while Toodming counters with banelings. 17:00 Heart 192 vs TooDming 189 Mutalisks harassing the natural. Heart engages on creep and gets pushed back again. Mutalisks going the rest of the army. Fifth base for Toodming. 18:00 Heart 174 vs TooDming 190 Banelings killing lots of marines in the center, but the mutalisks can't stick around. Ultralisk cavern and 3/3 for Toodming. 19:00 Heart 165 vs TooDming 167 Heart killing creep so he can land his 4th base. Adrenal glands for Toodming. Heart getting a thor. 20:00 Heart 181 vs TooDming 192 Drop on the fourth of toodming kills a spore crawler. Pathogen glands beomg researched, and ultralisk armor. Mutalisks getting to a somewhat exposed fourth, heart doesn't save enought marines to defend. Heart pushing for the 5th. 22:00 Heart 187 vs TooDming 189 Toodming losing a lot of banelings. Toodming loses the 5th but kills the fourth base. Ultralisks nearly finished. Heart rebuilding his 4th base.
23:00 Heart 131 vs TooDming 169 Toodming manages to kill the army but loses his third base, killing a reinforcement army from heart. Four bases, one barely mining vs 3 and a fourth on the way.
24:00 Heart 136 vs TooDming 169 Heart going to try to take a 4th base. Infestors on the way for Toodming. Heart getting a PF on his fourth base. Toodming parking his army in the center of the map.
25:00 Heart 160 vs TooDming 189 Mutalisks see a well-defended fourth base. Toodming trying to bait out widow mines with a few zerglings but fails. More ultralisks/infestors on the way.
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On February 20 2014 08:38 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 08:37 Squat wrote: That is a really bad place to engage in. I always see terrans get smashed on that high ground. No room to kite It's better for TvP, because you can deny mining and you have high ground advantage to use vikings v colossi and ghosts v templar. Plus you can kite back to that narrow bridge which sucks for chargelots. Unlike zealots though, banes explode.
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your Country52796 Posts
On February 20 2014 08:39 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 08:36 The_Templar wrote:On February 20 2014 08:32 The_Templar wrote:On February 20 2014 08:28 The_Templar wrote:On February 20 2014 08:24 The_Templar wrote:On February 20 2014 08:21 The_Templar wrote:Heart spawns in the top left Toodming spawns in the bottom left 2:00 Barracks followed by a refinery for Heart. Toodming going hatchery first, then gas/pool. Heart starting reaper production. 3:00 First reaper finishes for Heart, second one on the way. CC on the low ground for Heart. Toodming getting zergling speed and 6 zerglings. Queens for Toodming are late. 4:00 Heart getting a factory. Second reaper joins the first one. Toodming positioning his queens at his natural while parking his zerglings at the cliff. 5:00 Third CC for Heart. Heart starting a starport while reactoring his factory. Heart building hellions. Toodming finishing up zergling speed. Tech lab on the barracks. 6:00 Heart 36 vs TooDming 47 Toodming taking the forward third. Banshee on the way for Heart. Toodming getting another queen. Heart still building hellions, sending his first two out. 7:00 Heart 50 vs TooDming 50 Two evolution chambers on the way for Toodming, who's still making drones. Toodming getting a spore crawler next to his third hatchery. Zergling production starting. +1/1 for Toodming. Heart making a viking. 8:00 Heart 70 vs TooDming 72 Heart researching stim. Heart moving out towards the middle with a banshee and hellions, and two reapers. Heart arrives at Toodming's base but there are lots of zerglings and three queens. Heart has about 10 hellions. 9:00 Heart 80 vs TooDming 80 Lots of zerglings and some drones die. More zerglings being produced but Toodming can't get a proper surround. Third CC landing below an overlord. 10:00 Heart 92 vs TooDming 85 Spire and a baneling nest for Toodming. +1/1 being researched by Heart. Toodming getting a fourth hatchery. Viking killing an overlord. 11:00 Heart 118 vs TooDming 95 Toodming getting +2/2 and a baneling nest. Widow mine production starting. Heart moving into the third and killing all the queens while Toodming counterattacks. 12:00 Heart 138 vs TooDming 109 Banelings without speed and zerglings trying to hold off the hellions without queen support. Heart parked at the watchtower but has to lift. Mutalisks being produced now. 13:00 Heart 149 vs TooDming 117 Heart moving into the 4th where there are no drones. +2/2 and marauder/concussive shells for Heart. Another push, with widow mines, towards the third base. 14:00 Heart 156 vs TooDming 139 Hellbats being made. Toodming catches Heart's army out of position and killing a few units, chasing him to his third base. Both players on 75ish workers. Drop on Toodming's fourth base. 15:00 Heart 175 vs TooDming 166 Toodming catches two medivacs of units and kills them. Blue flame and +1 mech weapons for Heart, and more hellbats. Toodming has lots of banelings and can push heart's next push back. 16:00 Heart 179 vs TooDming 173 +3/3 for Heart. Toodming getting a hive. Heart going for another push while Toodming counters with banelings. 17:00 Heart 192 vs TooDming 189 Mutalisks harassing the natural. Heart engages on creep and gets pushed back again. Mutalisks going the rest of the army. Fifth base for Toodming. 18:00 Heart 174 vs TooDming 190 Banelings killing lots of marines in the center, but the mutalisks can't stick around. Ultralisk cavern and 3/3 for Toodming. 19:00 Heart 165 vs TooDming 167 Heart killing creep so he can land his 4th base. Adrenal glands for Toodming. Heart getting a thor. 20:00 Heart 181 vs TooDming 192 Drop on the fourth of toodming kills a spore crawler. Pathogen glands beomg researched, and ultralisk armor. Mutalisks getting to a somewhat exposed fourth, heart doesn't save enought marines to defend. Heart pushing for the 5th. 22:00 Heart 187 vs TooDming 189 Toodming losing a lot of banelings. Toodming loses the 5th but kills the fourth base. Ultralisks nearly finished. Heart rebuilding his 4th base. 23:00 Heart 131 vs TooDming 169 Toodming manages to kill the army but loses his third base, killing a reinforcement army from heart. Four bases, one barely mining vs 3 and a fourth on the way. 24:00 Heart 136 vs TooDming 169 Heart going to try to take a 4th base. Infestors on the way for Toodming. Heart getting a PF on his fourth base. Toodming parking his army in the center of the map. 25:00 Heart 160 vs TooDming 189 Mutalisks see a well-defended fourth base. Toodming trying to bait out widow mines with a few zerglings but fails. More ultralisks/infestors on the way. 26:00 Heart 186 vs TooDming 193 Heart pushing again. Toodming re-taking his third. Heart going for a 5th base, Toodming counterattacks for the 4th and kills the base. Heart going for the 5th of Toodming but it's defended.
27:00 Heart 193 vs TooDming 200 Lots more banelings on the way for Toodming. Another engagement in the center, but lots of infestors and killed by widow mines.
28:00 Heart 109 vs TooDming 168 Heart chased to his 4th. 12 more mutalisks on the way. Heart GG's! Toodming ties it up, 1-1!
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United States23455 Posts
Poll: Recommend Toodming vs Heart Game 2?★★★- Good game (5) 45% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (4) 36% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 9% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 9% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Toodming vs Heart Game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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wow, didn't expect that after the first game
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China6323 Posts
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
When bunch of infestors died on minefield i thought that there is a chance. Nah, slowpoke ultras ftw.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
Ultras are so fucking badass.
That was actually impressive by Tm, I think the reason the midgame looked so tough is because he was keeping up with his transitions and made 3/3 and ultras
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Much better game from Toodming, guess Habitation wasn't a good representation of what he can do.
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That was a beautiful game, interesting twists.
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Canada8157 Posts
On February 20 2014 08:42 KelsierSC wrote: Ultras are so fucking badass.
That was actually impressive by Tm, I think the reason the midgame looked so tough is because he was keeping up with his transitions and made 3/3 and ultras
he got 2/2 super early, that's where all the investements were
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