TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 164

On November 16 2013 05:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Random Musings: The Bus-Ride to Work

1) I envision a town in which I'm the mayor and Yamato is my Pardoner. Why? Because we get all the benefits of VE lynching scum on D1, in all likelihood getting shot N1 and all that jazz, and none of the pitfalls of having scum in the office of either Mayor OR Pardoner.

I know what you're thinking: "But VE! Surely you jest! Yamato has made it abundantly clear that he's not afraid of using the Pardoner role - he's clearly the worst candidate for it by far!"

I'll go on the record here (again) and explain my stance on the Pardoner role (again). The Pardoner mechanic is just another mechanic that town has at its disposal to get information and that scum has at its disposal to confound town. And while it's generally accepted logic that preventing a lynch, ANY lynch is a bad idea, I hesitate to say that the role is, strictly speaking, anti-town. Like, if you believe that Yamato is town then you have to believe that IF he uses the role, it will be for a reason that he has deemed pro-town. Maybe he's wrong, maybe he's right, maybe he's scum lying to your face - but you get just as much information from that action out of Yamato as you get from the flip of a player. It's not info you can take to the bank and lynch people over, but it's certainly info that you can use to help solve the game.

I'm not immediately repulsed by Yamato saying he's not afraid to use the power, and it gives me warm fuzzies about his alignment that he said it at all. I don't think he'll use the power all willy-nilly and I'm totally fine with him having it.

2) I will not be stating my lynch choice outright. I will give an array of candidates and will lynch into this list, but my actual target will remain unknown. I feel like in this way scum will be less inclined to help me along if my lynch choice is bad or oppose me if my lynch choice is good. It takes actionable info away from scum, but still allows town to get a feel for where I stand so they can choose to vote me or not. Right now (before catching up) that list is this:

Grackaroni, StorrZerg, Sharrant, and Skanjab1s

3) I'm reading over the thread after this post: I haven't caught up from when I left last night and a lot has happened. If I miss a question directed at me or something just bear with me and ask it again.

4) There was a limited amount of venom and hatred in the thread at the time I left. There was a lot of aggravation and frustration but that's to be expected, but a fairly small amount of actual general poor behavior. I liked that and I hope that it continues through my readthrough of the thread and beyond.

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Actual content to follow. Stay tuned.

On November 18 2013 05:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I've given my thoughts on Holyflare before as per your request.

To give you a bit more substance, I'll go into it a bit deeper. He started his mayoral election a little bit into Day 1 and got some flak for it from Pandain and Yamato, but it doesn't really phase him. After that, he opens up the offensive on Rayn which ended up producing pretty much the longest shitflinging this thread has seen. However, his initial reasons were sound and ones I shared. His comment of ignoring Risen sparked my interest as well, and he didn't tunnel him. The same post that accuses Rayn also includes a read on Hopeless.

In the middle there's some trolly posts, which although seemingly insignificant indicate he's fooling around and enjoying himself. He's feeling comfortable and seems to be trying to figure the game out. Accuses Matt, and later continues on Rayn. This post in particular I actually find telling for his alignment.

Scum knows that the people they're accusing are actually town, but HF sees an opportunity to bring up his suspect and wants to claim credit for it. He's happy to have it scrutinized. He wants to talk about his case.

As the game goes on, his read on Rayn changes around the same time mine does. As scum, emulating a town mindset is one of the toughest things there is. The fact that his thoughts regarding Rayn emulated mine so strongly makes it difficult for me to think he's scum. His comments started all focussing around defending himself from Rayn, in contrast to his earlier game where he participated in a lot of discussions. He feels attacked and it's stifling his game. He's not comfortable under the pressure, which is one thing that has me worried. You could explain it as feeling forced to defend yourself, or it's scum that feels cornered. On its own, I would consider it a mildly scummy thing to go into defensive mode, but considering the rest of the factors I feel town on HF. I'd feel much better once he starts giving original thoughts on other players, though.