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On November 01 2013 22:36 Onegu wrote:
Jeez this case is large and I am writeing it on a tablet so its takeing longer than I thought but is comeing and we should lynch koshi.
Well I hope that the case on me isn't the only thing you will do. Unless it is really, really good. Which is unlikely. But possible. Who knows what I said?
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Yes, that is unreadable. But I read the last line and if this comes down on Koshi/marv scumteam I will be amused.
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On November 01 2013 22:39 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 18:19 Koshi wrote:I read the thread. I don't like Promethelax. On October 28 2013 13:11 Promethelax wrote:
Oats: important!!! Who said they thought you were third p because anyone can power you up? After Oats say it was me: On October 28 2013 14:00 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, point I wanted to make about koshi saying oats was 3p for being able to be levelled up by non town:
Koshi is scum.
Did you go back and read what I said Promethelax? We were joking around a bit, or at least I was, and because he said that everybody had to charge him up I said he was 3p. Because it would make sense that 3p would have a wincon/power that needed a vote from everybody. Which is a hard thing to do unless it is more endgame, or get something really strong based on the % of people that vote for him. I am obviously not saying Oats is 3p from my conversation with him. But that was my thought process, sick powers when everybody votes for him sounds 3p-ish. There is nothing scummy about this: On October 28 2013 09:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok read my role Pm.
I get powers if people type ##Refudiate Oatsmaster
Sick sick powers. And I dont have limitations like marv, everyone should type that.
EVERYONE.
Pandain looks way too serious to be scum, dunno why exactly he thinks rayn is scum.
On October 28 2013 09:24 Koshi wrote:
like everyone everyone? On October 28 2013 09:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
like everyone everyone.
On October 28 2013 09:33 Koshi wrote:
Then I conclude you are 3p. Please play with town first 2 cycles. Scum always wins...
##Refudiate Oatsmaster Now I wonder why you never went back to read this again. Where did I say that Oats can be levelled up by non-town? That doesn't even make sense? What does that even mean? Are you talking about a scum power that only scum can power up, and I just scumslipped about it? I said because Oats needed everybody to vote for him that he was 3p. It was a joke. And a bit based on my own role pm that doesn't require everybody to vote for me. Again, I realize Oats might have been overstating it, or joking around. But so was I. Your interpretation of that conversation is bullshit though. Why not first ask me what I was doing there? Why not reread the conversation between us? Why ask "who was it?" and then conclude "Ok that guy is scum". Why I am scum with Pandain? If it is not connection based. Am I scum solely for the above? If not why am I scum? I am around the next 15 hours. Please let me know why you keep repeating I am scum. First this post you just defend yourself, and soft push Prom for making a read on you. You say you dont like prom but 99% of this post is just you defending yourself. Then saying his interpretation is wrong, and that is the only reason you give for not likeing him, It makes absolutely no sense. Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 04:38 Koshi wrote:On October 29 2013 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi why do you think Pandain is not scum?
Also what does you having hrd time finding scum this game tell you? I don't think Pandain is scum because he gave me a townread. I just liked how and when he did it. There are multiple games in which I don't instantly find scum. I will point it out when I see something, I am always transparent with my reads. I'll see if I can make a quick list where I am standing. Now here he gives Pandain a town read for calling him town!?!? So if you call koshi scum then you are scum and if you call him town you are town ezpz. His reads up until this point are for shit reasons, with very little justification. Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 07:41 Koshi wrote:I am not too happy to vote OOHCHILD. I am hoping cool things will happen with Sentinel and WoS power. I know I am somewhat less involved but I didn't get feels yet in this game. This is were I am/my gameplan. Promethelax + Show Spoiler +Strange case on me by "misunderstanding" me. I replied and he gave me a town read, which is towny because he could have just put me on null. His analysis on Pandain giving up that omgus game (which I don't understand how to read btw, it has 3 pages?) was pretty strange. It was on Koshi level, which means that even I felt that it was a bit wonky. Null tbh, but I am not going to vote a 5 page filter guy today unless he starts to be really scummy. WaveofShadow + Show Spoiler +Good points for WoS are:
1) his case on Prome which is something nice to read. Just makes sense when you read it.
2) Him giving Seuss a townread without any bullshit. It gives me the vibe that WoS wants to steer town in the right direction by saying "don't look at Seuss, he has my seal of approval, I know the guy, don't waste time on him just yet".
Bad points:
Top 2 posts of page 3 in his filter are not good, he lost me there. Something about not knowing who to vote for now while being unclear about Clarity which was a hot discussion. And then building up on that saying something about rayn and I not being bros this game and some things about his Ver-skills around Clarity. I don't know what that was all about. I would say he was startled by the votes piling on Clarity and his first post on page 3 of his filter is trying to put some suspicion on 2 other guys where I am one of them but meh.
But I am pretty sure he will pick it up again. I also want to know what his super pro town power is. Pandain + Show Spoiler +[UoN]Sentinel + Show Spoiler +See what his power gives, when he kills town we revisit his filter and the case on him. If he kills scum we dance with joy and call him jeebus. Anything else and we are mad. Countdown = nuke or New Year but that doesn't start on 15. Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler +Going to give him a townread. I like his activity and his posting. Extra bonus, Seuss described Oats his town meta in his case on Oats. strongandbig + Show Spoiler +Pfff. Was pretty town in Thug and flipped red. I can read him if you all get angry and force me to read him. I don't want to atm OOHCHILD + Show Spoiler +You shouldn't be in this game. I will be kicking and screaming in the future that hosts don't allow people like this to join games. I allow smurfs if they state they are smurfs. Nothing else to say. marvellosity + Show Spoiler +townread, everybody his townread, sheeping him is considered pro-town. I might do that. Seuss [spoiler]The main thing I like about Seuss is that WoS gives him a townread. Which is pretty insane. If WoS is town there is no reason for him to give Seuss a free pass + we can trust his honest judgement. If WoS is scum, I doubt he would give his scumbuddy such a strong townread, more likely Seuss is town anyway when WoS is scum . More reads here that are utter crap, Ill sheep marv because its townie, oh crap prom said im not scum anymore so that means he isnt scum also. A bunch of one liners with little actual info or effort put into his reads, also he has zero scum reads at this point which I just find really odd and that makes very little sense. Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Tomorrow lynch should go like this:
Marv & rayn are currently townreads for most people. Marv has selected Promethelax as likely town and his trusted counselor. Pandain is eager to prove his townyness to rayn and I know rayn is confident in reading him. WoS can show off his eagerness as pro town loyalist and add his wise opinion which is respected by marv.
Then there are peasants who should add reasonable and smart opinions on the subjects of interest from the above 5. Sentinel will guard over the honesty with an ace in his pocket, Seuss seems intellectually qualified and eager, HotCottonCandy looks like he can come out of the shadow holding a shiny key and we can always count on Oats to bluntly state his opinion.
It will be fine. Can you explain this post to me koshi? You dont want to lynch anyone? You just jokeing or were you 4rlz here? Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 18:37 Koshi wrote:
I am going to find everybody who doesn't put his ass near marvs crotch when he asks it suspicious and a bad player. Obviously he is not going to insta win the game as scum when he gets powered up. Like I said before on Oats, I could see 3p wincon be "get everybody to twerk you in a phase" but even if 3p it is not going to break the game. No reason not to do it.
Marv, is your ability a night action or a cool ingame action? Why do you have such a strong town read on marv? You never explain it you only say sheeping him is townie? Then you rolefish him? If you are town there is no reason for this. I can only see this post comeing from scum. Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 20:12 Koshi wrote:On October 29 2013 18:39 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 18:16 Koshi wrote:
Ahh, I now see that Pandain is not going to boost anybody... wow. So silly. Hmm, did he say that and I missed it? It makes it a little less suspicious. My powers are not in-thread. No he didn't say that but if he isn't going to give his very exciting and very townread no powerup because he might fear he is scum anyway, I am not having big hopes for the rest of us. On October 29 2013 18:40 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, do you think rayn is pushing stuff as much as usual? He doesn't seem very gung-ho to me, and that worries me a bit. But you don't seem to be worried about him at all. I was a bit worried in the start but unless rayn is obvious scum to me I think I am going to ignore him till a point in the game I am forced to see him as scum. There is no reason for me to put unneeded pressure on him because I believe I can read him without having to interact with him. So our conversations should be about finding scum together more than finding out each other alignement. It is also a fact that I am the one that has the harder time reading rayn compared to rayn reading me. Golden Sun I was saying he was scum right before he got shot that night (N4), and he was shot for being 100% right on his reads... I think I can read rayn based around the point he decides I am town If you look at Noir I am pretty sure I started yelling rayn was 100% scum because he couldn't see I was town after my N1, which I played town meta Koshi. He could have still said I was scum but should have said I faked my meta, not the weak ass reasons he gave there. In this game he just gave me a leaning town read after my list of reads, which is a good moment for rayn to say that about me. But i'll add this for now: I was not the biggest fan of rayn his first pages, as he was pretty easygoing counting down with me, while I was asking questions at Sentinel he was just yoloing with me. Him giving a good answer to somebody asking about that is pretty null. I was surprised that he kept his cool interrogating Pandain because I would expect a bit more fire but he really kept his cool, even saying that Pandain was not readable for anybody atm because he was still null on Pandain and therefore shutting down some people who were pushing Pandain in the scummy corner for Pandains case on rayn. rayn is in no danger of getting lynched today and his play was on a level I can/want to trust him with his reads. But like I said in my list, I am willing to sheep rayn on Pandain and when rayn specifically asks me to sheep him. Otherwise I am more inclined to sheep marv. Look how many times he changes his story in this post alone, Im going to ignore rayn because I can read him, But I have a hard time reading rayn. I dont like his first few pages, but I trust him and will sheep him. He cant even keep his story straight on one post. This guy isnt town. Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 20:22 Koshi wrote:
I am working and have been typing the above up in the last 3 hours.... Lots of shizzle happened in between.
##Twerk
Still in consideration if I will do the thing for Prom. Probably will do all the powers.
Not amused by Sentinel thingie not going through. I do not understand the secrecy and the "breadcrumbing". rayn said that it was already strange that Sentinel was so excited about his power when we were counting down, then he was already a lot less excited and unwilling to use it when we reached 0 and went AWOL after we reached 0. I wanted to give him a pass because the power and now it seems like the multiple posts he made about it were just hidden messages that it did nothing??? Why not tell the thread straight? Probably because scum and didn't know how else to participate.
Sentinel is on the VERY scummy side of things now and I am suggesting him as a policy lynch over OOHCHILD.
I'll sheep marv on Clarity first. Where the fuck is he? I expect high quality from Town Clarity because in both voice and forum mafia he always provided that. Here is the first time he wants to lynch someone and its because of policy? He still hasnt given a scum read except for Prom which he took right back when Prom changed his read on koshi. What better way to not have to take responseibility for a mislynch then to only do it for policy. And nothice how many time he says he will sheep already? He says it on every page without giving his own scum reads. Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 21:32 Koshi wrote:On October 29 2013 21:23 Promethelax wrote:On October 29 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:On October 29 2013 21:07 Promethelax wrote:
so you agree Koshi with my read of him as scummy but not the scummiest? I think everyone is having a problem not with what I'm saying but with not getting my conclusion. My conclusion is that he is the fourth scummiest person in this thread though in light of relooking at the voting I might put him as scummier than Sent. I have an issue with Sent being so effortless though, like Panda at least tried to make a case on someone. Sent hasn't done ANYTHING! No, I think Pandain is pretty scummy. I'll bounce ideas around with rayn later on. He claims to be able to read Pandain perfectly and I am sure he is willing to provide a lenghty case on why we should lynch Pandain if he beleives Pandain to be scum. If rayn doesn't think Pandain is worth lynching it isn't going to happen anyway. pretty scummy sounds a lot like 'scummy but not the scummiest' if you want to lynch Pandain what are you doing on marv's clarity wagon? Clarity is an elitist and marv is marv. 2 good reasons to lynch Clarity this game. I think Pandain has a good chance to flip red from where I am standing, but I am letting rayn do the case. rayn claims that he is a Pandain specialist. I am waiting on rayn and I suggest you keep your questions concerning Pandain being scum for him. I think rayn will be around soonish. It just repeats over and over sheep, sheep, sheep I just dont see this type of play comeing from a town koshi. Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 23:45 Koshi wrote:
If we don't lynch Clarity today we are not lynching him ever again this game. We believe his sincerity or we don't. This comes right after he makes a case on pandain. And the only thing has really said is sheep sheep sheep on clairity. Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 00:25 Koshi wrote:On October 30 2013 00:23 OOHCHILD wrote:On October 30 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 30 2013 00:13 OOHCHILD wrote:
I am a terrible lynch because I tried to clear the only alternative bandwagon. I am a terrible lynch because I have not been afraid to stick out. I am a terrible lynch because I have given plenty of opinions and also given reasons why I have those opinions. I dont understand the first point. The second point doesnt really make sense to me either, thinking marv is scum is so bad, its scummy. Your opinions and reasons are bad. Bad in a scummy way. Last post for real. There are two bandwagons, me and Clarity. If Clarity doesn't get lynched, it's very likely I will. As scum why would I try so hard to clear Clarity if it meant it would be more likely that I was going to be lynched? Scum wants to blend in. I did several unnecessary, weird things this game that made me stick out. It's bad to think marvel is scum? Get real and cut the wifom. If your read of Marv is anything other than null than it's you who is dumb. marv is 100% town. He is confirmed. I don't know who you are but if you are unknown with marv you better accept it. Why is marv confirmed town? You know marv plays a good scum game and can copy his town meta. You keep calling him town with zero basis.
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On November 01 2013 22:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 01 2013 22:33 Koshi wrote:
Also Oats nuked me because I was on Seuss his ass this game. That's the real reason.
But it's all for tomorrow. Lol so instead of fabricating a legit sounding reason, I decide to make up something totally unbelievable? Right. Koshi, I think you might be a bit mad. It's because there wasn't a reasonable reason for your actions. So, whatever.
no, exactly. What stupid scum move is it to nuke someone you barely even talked about and most people leaned town on without prior conversation or ANYTHING at all that would seem to make it less suspicious for me to nuke koshi?
Nope apparently koshi thinks that scumOats decides to nuke first and explain later, and comes up with the most bullshit reason he has ever seen.
Decide which is more likely,
Town oats impulsively seeing something scummy and launching the nuke without regards to his appearance,
Or
Scum oats decides to kill koshi after he gets a nuke and just shoots it off hoping no one notices it in the mayhem?
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Im only on page 6 of his 16 page filter more incomeing.
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ok so this is an extended OMGUS on Koshi by Onegu.
Interesting.
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You wanna explain that vote marv?
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Not sure about marv but you shoveing town reads on him the entire game makes absolutely no sense.
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On November 01 2013 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
You wanna explain that vote marv?
Do you want to read my posts?
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Onegu, I should be extremely obviously town to you, as my play is literally nothing like Dessert.
So Koshi's townread on me is not unfounded at all.
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On November 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
You wanna explain that vote marv?
Do you want to read my posts?
right I was under the impression that you were voting Onegu, not Seuss. So what happened with your normal give the replacement a day to settle in?
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On November 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu, I should be extremely obviously town to you, as my play is literally nothing like Dessert.
So Koshi's townread on me is not unfounded at all.
Ill be honest the main reason I doubt you is because the replacement thing.
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On November 01 2013 22:49 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu, I should be extremely obviously town to you, as my play is literally nothing like Dessert.
So Koshi's townread on me is not unfounded at all. Ill be honest the main reason I doubt you is because the replacement thing.
I'm going to get mad about replacements as either alignment if it comes at a bullshit time.
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Marv, Koshi never give a reason for calling you town. He just says you are confirmed and I have no idea why he would do that as town, you are most likely the best player in this game as either alignment, there is no way you can be confirmed town with no reason.
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On November 01 2013 22:52 Onegu wrote:
Marv, Koshi never give a reason for calling you town. He just says you are confirmed and I have no idea why he would do that as town, you are most likely the best player in this game as either alignment, there is no way you can be confirmed town with no reason.
Players like Koshi and rayn use exaggerations and over-confident reads all the time, it's one of their failings. It's not a mafia-tell though.
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And Onegu, you *know* that Koshi makes one-liner reads, often without explanations, all the time.
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1) Yes, like I said to Prome when he discussed that later. That post was about defending myself and not pushing Prom. I didn't like him because he misunderstood the conversation between Oats and me. And then used that to say I was scum 2-4 times in the thread.
2) Yes, he gave me a townread and I like it. It was all casual from him. Gutread on Pandain!
3) Tssss. Don't forget I am Koshi. It wasn't that bad btw.
4) Game felt like there was balance after the first 24 hours of D1. I made a cool summary of what should happen. Partly joking, partly being awesome.
5) Marv totes town. The rest has to do with the CobraTank.
6) I am totes town. But rayn not easy to read this game. Currently he is in the scummy part of nulls because he doesn't want to interact with me around Seuss.
7) I am kinda not being sheepy sheep right now. You might have noticed. But I had no problem with sheeping D1. Is it scummy to say I am sheeping 24/7?
8 - 10) I could post the Jaedong jumpy sheep here. But I am no EG fan.
11) Marv totes town yo!
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This seems much more like a persona 4 koshi scum game than one of his town games to me.
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