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On October 08 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 02:54 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Sol, how is it? Deal or no deal? Your choise. gimme a bit im still turning over possibilities. what is the plan if I agree? If we can figure out a better lynch (that is scum) for this phase you get to live and shoot scum during nights and every time you do so we do not lynch you.
in this scenario, other team is going to be forced to kill me right off the bat if i'm potentially throwing kp their way.
i'm trying to see if this actually leads to a chance to win for me.
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lol Austin. Your "push" on Solstice didn't mean shit because you were the sole vote on him and the lynch was already decided.
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On October 08 2013 02:54 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Sol, how is it? Deal or no deal? Your choise. gimme a bit im still turning over possibilities. what is the plan if I agree? I'm sort of curious myself. If solstice is a banger couldn't he theoretically lie and say he's not since our goal is inevitably to lower KP? Or am I not considering something?
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On October 08 2013 02:59 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2013 02:54 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Sol, how is it? Deal or no deal? Your choise. gimme a bit im still turning over possibilities. what is the plan if I agree? If we can figure out a better lynch (that is scum) for this phase you get to live and shoot scum during nights and every time you do so we do not lynch you. in this scenario, other team is going to be forced to kill me right off the bat if i'm potentially throwing kp their way. i'm trying to see if this actually leads to a chance to win for me. Better chances than dying today.
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On October 08 2013 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol Austin. Your "push" on Solstice didn't mean shit because you were the sole vote on him and the lynch was already decided. It doesn't mean MUCH. 100% agree there.
But boy howdy it sure looks like I might have made posts on solstice earlier. It looks like we had interactions. Maybe someone interested in figuring out my alignment would look at them.
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On October 08 2013 03:00 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 02:54 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Sol, how is it? Deal or no deal? Your choise. gimme a bit im still turning over possibilities. what is the plan if I agree? I'm sort of curious myself. If solstice is a banger couldn't he theoretically lie and say he's not since our goal is inevitably to lower KP? Or am I not considering something? If he says he is not a banger we lynch him. If he is not he is 100% our best chance to hit mafia, noone comes even close.
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On October 08 2013 03:00 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol Austin. Your "push" on Solstice didn't mean shit because you were the sole vote on him and the lynch was already decided. It doesn't mean MUCH. 100% agree there. But boy howdy it sure looks like I might have made posts on solstice earlier. It looks like we had interactions. Maybe someone interested in figuring out my alignment would look at them. Yeah, i also thought SnB and Palmar were not in the same team. Oh boy how wrong was i.
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On October 08 2013 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 03:00 austinmcc wrote:On October 08 2013 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol Austin. Your "push" on Solstice didn't mean shit because you were the sole vote on him and the lynch was already decided. It doesn't mean MUCH. 100% agree there. But boy howdy it sure looks like I might have made posts on solstice earlier. It looks like we had interactions. Maybe someone interested in figuring out my alignment would look at them. Yeah, i also thought SnB and Palmar were not in the same team. Oh boy how wrong was i. Get fooled by mafia once, shame on mafia.
Get fooled by mafia once, respond by refusing to look at certain information that may be generally useful in determining alignments, shame on you.
Old saying.
Yup. They were on the same team. Doesn't make information worthless.
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On October 08 2013 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 03:00 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 08 2013 02:54 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Sol, how is it? Deal or no deal? Your choise. gimme a bit im still turning over possibilities. what is the plan if I agree? I'm sort of curious myself. If solstice is a banger couldn't he theoretically lie and say he's not since our goal is inevitably to lower KP? Or am I not considering something? If he says he is not a banger we lynch him. If he is not he is 100% our best chance to hit mafia, noone comes even close. Wat. So now we don't care about reducing KP tonight?
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On October 08 2013 03:06 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2013 03:00 austinmcc wrote:On October 08 2013 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol Austin. Your "push" on Solstice didn't mean shit because you were the sole vote on him and the lynch was already decided. It doesn't mean MUCH. 100% agree there. But boy howdy it sure looks like I might have made posts on solstice earlier. It looks like we had interactions. Maybe someone interested in figuring out my alignment would look at them. Yeah, i also thought SnB and Palmar were not in the same team. Oh boy how wrong was i. Get fooled by mafia once, shame on mafia. Get fooled by mafia once, respond by refusing to look at certain information that may be generally useful in determining alignments, shame on you. Old saying. Yup. They were on the same team. Doesn't make information worthless. Of course, that's why i am not looking only into interactions between certain players. I am looking for their effort in pushing lynches and if the lynches make sense (like, how Palmar was definitely scum in this game).
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On October 08 2013 03:06 austinmcc wrote: ##vote: s0lstice
look at this vote with no explanation
scum + Show Spoiler +
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On October 08 2013 03:06 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2013 03:00 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 08 2013 02:54 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Sol, how is it? Deal or no deal? Your choise. gimme a bit im still turning over possibilities. what is the plan if I agree? I'm sort of curious myself. If solstice is a banger couldn't he theoretically lie and say he's not since our goal is inevitably to lower KP? Or am I not considering something? If he says he is not a banger we lynch him. If he is not he is 100% our best chance to hit mafia, noone comes even close. Wat. So now we don't care about reducing KP tonight? No if the KP becomes town!KP + we get valuable info.
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i dunno rayn this just doesnt feel right.
action means i'm fucking one faction.
inaction means im only fucking myself.
and to boot i dont really see a REAL path to victory by helping one side or the other.
think im gonna sit out.
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On October 08 2013 03:07 s0Lstice wrote:look at this vote with no explanation scum + Show Spoiler + It's okay, baby.
You had me at, "I'm actually blue and royally screwed everything up trying to entrap the whole scum team, and now am getting lynched."
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Solstice your time is running out soon. You need to make up your mind.
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On October 08 2013 03:08 s0Lstice wrote: i dunno rayn this just doesnt feel right.
action means i'm fucking one faction.
inaction means im only fucking myself.
and to boot i dont really see a REAL path to victory by helping one side or the other.
think im gonna sit out. So you are not even gonna try? Fine. I would have expected more from you. :/
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Random thought: Solstice did you babyseal so as to end discussion for the rest of the day? (making you a baller) Maybe didn't bank on Rayn's 'make a deal' scenarios?
Solstice could very well be wasting our time right at the end right now and have no intention in considering a deal.
Anyway carry on.
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On October 08 2013 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 03:06 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 08 2013 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2013 03:00 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 08 2013 02:54 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Sol, how is it? Deal or no deal? Your choise. gimme a bit im still turning over possibilities. what is the plan if I agree? I'm sort of curious myself. If solstice is a banger couldn't he theoretically lie and say he's not since our goal is inevitably to lower KP? Or am I not considering something? If he says he is not a banger we lynch him. If he is not he is 100% our best chance to hit mafia, noone comes even close. Wat. So now we don't care about reducing KP tonight? No if the KP becomes town!KP + we get valuable info. Naw.
What you're saying is, "If mafia volunteers to use KP against the other mafia team, and in a pro-town way, but with no way of town actually policing that this WILL happen, then we let him."
It also assumes that you can get one mafia team to play pro-town. At this point, if he's outed, he can't win. Someone will take him out before he can get to a kingmaker scenario, whichever side would be in a better position at the last moment with no-solstice than with kingmaker.
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well he is dumb if he doesn't try, but i can't make him..
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