Well it doesnt mean it wont work. As you can see in the Jy reps it does work. Also JulyZerg, before going pro used to play with 9 pool/12 pool a lot. It means it becomes less effective vs them, because they have less mistakes and as a consequence, less things for you to exploit. And on both maps (luna & peaks) its just not misplaced bunkers, you need 2 bunkers. Because in the first example, if he bunkered near his gas, i would just go for his ramp. And in the second one, if he bunkered down, i could burrow near his expo, from above and go behind his minerals.

The gas i take it after my pool is done in most cases, but of course you take it some time after in certain cases, like if you are being bunker rushed.

One important thing i forgot to mention is to take your expo gas after the lurker den is done. But it also depends on your drone count. If you manage to damage the terran early on, then you can use a "wave" of larvas to make some drones.

IntoTheWow

is awesome32263 Posts

July 15 2007 07:56 GMT

#25

On July 15 2007 14:05 yoinkity wrote:
why do all your examples have misplaced bunkers...? and on luna the terran seems kind of noob. i can't see any medics or tanks but see fast starport/dropship. whats wrong with just expoing against your strategy?

When expoing your tech as terran you are late with your tech. In the Sea.Jy reps you can see that sometimes he plays around with lurkings with the objective of making the Terran waste his scans. He burrows and unburrows quick while running off. Once he scans 3 or 4 times (3 scans in main and 1 in expo usually), he cant counter your lurkers for much longer, and vessels arent that easy to make while you need to make marines all the time to stop the Zerg attacks.

TheFoReveRwaR

United States10657 Posts

July 15 2007 10:22 GMT

#26

Nice guide, should be really helpful for a lot of people, but as you mentioned against a really skilled terran the effectiveness of this build drops to near zero

Their is a reason this style has died out on the pro scene. A good terran will just mass marines out of 2 rax non stop then place a cc. From their they will get a quick acad and pressure your sunk line, then pull back once they've forced sunken and with a HUGE economic advantage they can just play defensively. Bunkering the front with 2 maybe even 3. Then they can split their forces up and cover both mineral lines with mnm. Add in good scouting and it becomes extremely difficult to do any damage to the terran while still getting a 3rd gas and/or defiliers in time to stop the first ball of death

Most Ts will time it with 1/1 while going 4 rax double fact and getting vessel. Then move out with their first vessel and a good number of tanks. Very very hard to deal. Sorry but that terran looked really bad, just in the screen shots

Why would you EVER have your marines in that formation, leaving your ramp open? Also as someone mentioned before his bunkers are misplaced.

dementus

Singapore1151 Posts

July 15 2007 10:47 GMT

#27

itw, your mastery of the internets amazes me, where the hell did you pull this smiley (

) out from?

thanks for the guide!

IntoTheWow

is awesome32263 Posts

July 15 2007 11:08 GMT

#28

On July 15 2007 19:47 dementus wrote:
itw, your mastery of the internets amazes me, where the hell did you pull this smiley (

) out from?

thanks for the guide!

From another forum

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I think this guide still works for the average TL reader. Its kind of "huh" to only discuss things that work at progaming level. :o

Reflex

Canada703 Posts

July 15 2007 13:16 GMT

#29

I don't play Terran or Zerg but your guide is amazing!

BeJe77

United States377 Posts

July 15 2007 13:52 GMT

#30

Thanks for guide man :D!!!

the woof woof is classic :D.

Evilmonkey.

United States1628 Posts

July 15 2007 16:44 GMT

#31

Another smash hit! I liked your first one a lot, and this one is great too. It's the right mix of humor and important info for noobie zergs like me. Thanks.

ilovezil

United States4143 Posts

July 15 2007 21:49 GMT

#32

*BUMP*

#1 ITW fan, folks.

Metaspace

Austria670 Posts

July 15 2007 23:27 GMT

#33

On July 16 2007 01:44 Evilmonkey. wrote:
Another smash hit! I liked your first one a lot, and this one is great too. It's the right mix of humor and important info for noobie zergs like me. Thanks.

First one? Could you post the link plz?

Tonkerchen

680 Posts

July 16 2007 01:26 GMT

#34

Haha good job.
The pictures are funny :D

Well I'm thankfull for some tricks which you gave us.

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

July 16 2007 03:51 GMT

#35

I lost. T_____T

k3fka

Argentina1267 Posts

July 16 2007 03:53 GMT

#36

i loved the part where agus said "Average players will exp blindly thinking they are iloveoov" , dont know why but that made me a good laugh....

pOOwarrior-

United States518 Posts

July 16 2007 05:08 GMT

#37

Woo, another AwsumZerg Guide =) Great stuff. For some reason I love the "I be scoutin'" picture o_o

I too would love a ZvP or ZvZ feature sometime soon.

SayaSP

Laos5494 Posts

July 16 2007 07:09 GMT

#38

On July 16 2007 08:27 Metaspace wrote:

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First one? Could you post the link plz?

The first ITW guide is in the Recommended Threads... thread.