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On August 03 2013 09:44 Umasi wrote: assume we're a scum team together, what would we get out of tag teaming like you said we did? Is there any reason we would build such a strong connection? (yeah, it's wifom, the thoughts not even occuring to you, and since I brought up you should just ignore it I guess.) (btw, the town motivation for no lynching instead of mis lynching is the fact that we don't kill a townie.) That is actually a really difficult mistake to avoid as scum, it is natural to begin working together as a team without realizing it.
Also. My reply is WIFOM. It implicates me! Haha I was teaming up with you from the start. But that was more blatant.
Still, last bit irrelephant because look what I said now
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On August 03 2013 09:46 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: I still don't think the switch is a smart move for a townie. If reps dies and flips red, he is pretty much boned, no? Why take that chance if you don't have foreknowledge.
If reps dies and flips red, he is pretty much boned, no? I don't get what you mean. If Umasi was scum there would be no reason to not for reps. Scum knew that reps was not scum before he got lynched right?
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On August 03 2013 09:48 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:42 Alakaslam wrote:On August 03 2013 09:37 DeusXmachina wrote: One thing that throws me for a loop about Umasi. In my opinion changing his vote on reps last minute is not a scummy thing to do. Why would a scum want to switch their vote on reps and risk taking a no lynch. It was a small victory for them getting reps out of the way, one townie down. Also he has come under a lot of attention because of that vote switch. Again, that does not seem scummy. That is why it is so hard for me to get a good read on Umasi. I still think he is suspicious, and like I said before, I will elaborate on that later tonight.
Slam are you still suspecting RDO for scum? Don't you think his spike in posts is a reaction to pressure? Also, if Umasi is not scum, then RDO could be taking the opportunity to raise suspicion of Umasi.
Slam would you consider scam as more scummy than RDO despite the fact that he is lurking extremely hard and we can't get a good read off of his posts? Because I lean town on RDO, yes, but RDO mentioned a work schedule that I don't see him posting outside of. Huh? I've been posting a fair amount the past couple of nights, all outside of my work schedule? I'm confused tt Whoops I mean during
This is a pro- you statement
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On August 03 2013 09:47 DeusXmachina wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:30 Alakaslam wrote:On August 03 2013 09:26 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 03 2013 09:05 Alakaslam wrote: I know why you are pushing scam uamsi. (XD JK)
Umasi. Thou hast much defense to enact
DO IT NOW O IST SKUM MILK
RDO sup
GOD OF THE MACHINE. ...sup. still on? Pleas be so I wanna talk wit ya in a time sensitive manner, maphia speed chess, yes? Talk away slam. I will be on for a while. Although no promises of speedy responses. I might play some games of dota. Yes! So what do you think of who? Have you read Flare? Yes I have read flare's extremely long post. Call me selfish but I wish he would of focused on only a couple people. He has got great analysis and it seems like he wasted some time on smaller suspects (like himself lol). I think he has got some really solid info on u M asi, Gotard, and Night. Ill do my part by researching them too. On a side note, I think it is best to focus on a couple key individuals. Analyzing their associations is great if it helps pin that individual as scum, but otherwise I don't think it is very useful. I am trying not to get bogged down by looking at everyone of suspect all at once. Ill post in detail on scum reads later tonight.
I have skipped the part he post of himself, i just cant find the energy to read.
I am sorry holy, might you rest peaceful in your obs forum.
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On August 03 2013 09:51 DeusXmachina wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:46 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: I still don't think the switch is a smart move for a townie. If reps dies and flips red, he is pretty much boned, no? Why take that chance if you don't have foreknowledge.
If reps dies and flips red, he is pretty much boned, no? I don't get what you mean. If Umasi was scum there would be no reason to not for reps. Scum knew that reps was not scum before he got lynched right? If you were scum
Do you seek towncred
He knows reps will flip town. PLEASE READ MY NEXT QUOTE. -_-
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RDO why did you hang back for the first part of day 1? You only started being active when we got close to lynching reps and suspicion was floating your way. Why is that?
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On August 03 2013 09:46 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:40 Nightcat99 wrote: Man slam , you would be such a great help , if i dont have to reread everything you write 3 times. I was getting suspicious on you because you secure the lynch but you didnt say anything to umasi the whole night.
Although i never had a scum read on you, that behavior you have was a bit odd, but i am off your case for now.
And about the vote switch, there was still quiet a bit of floating vote out there, a scum could have still switch back to secure that lynch, (assuming Umasi is a scum of course.)
So i dont think his vote switch is a risk of letting rep live.
Yeah actually I did. I got pissed he didn't vote scam. I switched before him. If he really wanted lynch off reps but didn't want no lynch, he should have counter wagoned with me, publicly so. He didnt. Now he wants to go after scam, and says he purposely wanted to no lynch. Thank you for reminding me of the back of my mind. That is why Umasi is scum. Defense that though.
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On August 03 2013 09:51 DeusXmachina wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:46 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: I still don't think the switch is a smart move for a townie. If reps dies and flips red, he is pretty much boned, no? Why take that chance if you don't have foreknowledge.
If reps dies and flips red, he is pretty much boned, no? I don't get what you mean. If Umasi was scum there would be no reason to not for reps. Scum knew that reps was not scum before he got lynched right? He did, which is my point. If reps had still been offed, which was pretty likely at the time, and he were mafia, everything would be on umasi at this point, no? Switching a vote to try to save scum?
There are possible town motivations, true, but that seems like a chance not necessarily worth taking from the point of view of the individual player
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NO, SHUT UP FOR A SECOND.
Read the quote.
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On August 03 2013 09:53 DeusXmachina wrote: RDO why did you hang back for the first part of day 1? You only started being active when we got close to lynching reps and suspicion was floating your way. Why is that? I decided to actually play the game. Yeah, I can see where its suspicious from your point of view. Once I actually made a couple posts defending myself and started reading the thread more closely I got hooked in
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On August 03 2013 09:54 Alakaslam wrote: NO, SHUT UP FOR A SECOND.
Read the quote. Fair point
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YOU WILL MAKE ME THINK YOU ARE SCUM IF YOU BURY MY QUOTE WITHOUT ADDRESSING IT.
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On August 03 2013 09:54 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:46 Alakaslam wrote:On August 03 2013 09:40 Nightcat99 wrote: Man slam , you would be such a great help , if i dont have to reread everything you write 3 times. I was getting suspicious on you because you secure the lynch but you didnt say anything to umasi the whole night.
Although i never had a scum read on you, that behavior you have was a bit odd, but i am off your case for now.
And about the vote switch, there was still quiet a bit of floating vote out there, a scum could have still switch back to secure that lynch, (assuming Umasi is a scum of course.)
So i dont think his vote switch is a risk of letting rep live.
Yeah actually I did. I got pissed he didn't vote scam. I switched before him. If he really wanted lynch off reps but didn't want no lynch, he should have counter wagoned with me, publicly so. He didnt. Now he wants to go after scam, and says he purposely wanted to no lynch. Thank you for reminding me of the back of my mind. That is why Umasi is scum. Defense that though.
because my opinions of reps were constantly changing, and I didn't just at the start of the day say "reps is X"?
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On August 03 2013 09:54 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:51 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 03 2013 09:46 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: I still don't think the switch is a smart move for a townie. If reps dies and flips red, he is pretty much boned, no? Why take that chance if you don't have foreknowledge.
If reps dies and flips red, he is pretty much boned, no? I don't get what you mean. If Umasi was scum there would be no reason to not for reps. Scum knew that reps was not scum before he got lynched right? He did, which is my point. If reps had still been offed, which was pretty likely at the time, and he were mafia, everything would be on umasi at this point, no? Switching a vote to try to save scum? There are possible town motivations, true, but that seems like a chance not necessarily worth taking from the point of view of the individual player
? You are talking hypothetically if reps flipped red. Can we forget that. There is not hypothetical here. Reps flipped town. He was town and scum knew it. If Umasi was scum why would he switch his vote?
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or are you asking why I didn't vote in line with your vote? and the answer to that is infii was scummier than a lurker. scam still hasn't picked it up , whereas infii has
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On August 03 2013 09:54 Alakaslam wrote: NO, SHUT UP FOR A SECOND.
Read the quote.
Can you please specify who you are talking to? You are hard to follow Slam. Don't just expect people to get what you are talking about.
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On August 03 2013 09:44 Umasi wrote: assume we're a scum team together, what would we get out of tag teaming like you said we did? Is there any reason we would build such a strong connection? (yeah, it's wifom, the thoughts not even occuring to you, and since I brought up you should just ignore it I guess.) (btw, the town motivation for no lynching instead of mis lynching is the fact that we don't kill a townie.) I'm not out to get you. Also, not so stupid as you seem to think friend
I'm new to this game too, I'm not going to play it perfectly. But I'm going to play the damn thing now, not just sit on my hands.
It's a more subtle tag-team, possibly even unintentionally backing up someone who you know to be your teammate (assuming you are mafia, which obviously is still to be decided)
I got a lot of heat for just defending myself, and now I begin to see why. There's a lot coming your way to answer for, so you are busy, but I'd like to see some of your theories come out more too to steer the discussion down other avenues that might benefit the town
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On August 03 2013 09:59 Umasi wrote: or are you asking why I didn't vote in line with your vote? and the answer to that is infii was scummier than a lurker. scam still hasn't picked it up , whereas infii has He was NOT scummier! Who besides you & Gotard have thought he was again? And on top of that, why didnt you push Indio before doing scam?
EH?
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slam , which quote the one you are answering my question?
I am pretty sure we all read it.
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On August 03 2013 10:03 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 09:44 Umasi wrote: assume we're a scum team together, what would we get out of tag teaming like you said we did? Is there any reason we would build such a strong connection? (yeah, it's wifom, the thoughts not even occuring to you, and since I brought up you should just ignore it I guess.) (btw, the town motivation for no lynching instead of mis lynching is the fact that we don't kill a townie.) I'm not out to get you. Also, not so stupid as you seem to think friend I'm new to this game too, I'm not going to play it perfectly. But I'm going to play the damn thing now, not just sit on my hands. It's a more subtle tag-team, possibly even unintentionally backing up someone who you know to be your teammate (assuming you are mafia, which obviously is still to be decided) I got a lot of heat for just defending myself, and now I begin to see why. There's a lot coming your way to answer for, so you are busy, but I'd like to see some of your theories come out more too to steer the discussion down other avenues that might benefit the town You are distracting! This had better be settled. How do you not think a found scum is 100% most important thing? I tell you, Umasi's actions do not fit with his defenses!
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