On July 17 2013 09:46 Onegu wrote:
Because hurricane asked for 2 scum and 2 town reads.
Because hurricane asked for 2 scum and 2 town reads.
Onegu do you have an explanation for this? Why did you post this?
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
July 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#1681
On July 17 2013 09:46 Onegu wrote: Because hurricane asked for 2 scum and 2 town reads. Onegu do you have an explanation for this? Why did you post this? | ||
Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
July 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#1682
On July 17 2013 10:06 Onegu wrote: First I am not going to make ALOT of reads I am looking but I am not going to post them all. Ill post my top reads until they flip or defend themselves well. There is little point in letting people sidestep pressure because I post multiple reads right after one another and my posts slowly get lost without a response. I don't see any reason not to explain your read on Nightcat, | ||
Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
July 17 2013 01:10 GMT
#1683
On July 16 2013 11:27 Onegu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2013 11:14 hzflank wrote: Also, remember that Onegu is the new Stim. Stim was never fully cleared. Onegu should be in the: No way in hell we are lynching him today category, but that does not make him likely town. Yes I should no way be heavy town Stim was scummy looking and this could be my 3rd or 4th scum game, and I like to be really active as scum. Oh and Nightcat is noob town. On July 16 2013 11:28 Onegu wrote: Crap ignore that last sentence. I am confused is that your case on me Onegu or am i missing something | ||
Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
July 17 2013 01:11 GMT
#1684
On July 17 2013 10:10 Nightcat99 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2013 11:27 Onegu wrote: On July 16 2013 11:14 hzflank wrote: Also, remember that Onegu is the new Stim. Stim was never fully cleared. Onegu should be in the: No way in hell we are lynching him today category, but that does not make him likely town. Yes I should no way be heavy town Stim was scummy looking and this could be my 3rd or 4th scum game, and I like to be really active as scum. Oh and Nightcat is noob town. I am confused is that your case on me Onegu or am i missing something LOL | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
July 17 2013 01:26 GMT
#1685
On July 17 2013 10:10 Nightcat99 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2013 11:27 Onegu wrote: On July 16 2013 11:14 hzflank wrote: Also, remember that Onegu is the new Stim. Stim was never fully cleared. Onegu should be in the: No way in hell we are lynching him today category, but that does not make him likely town. Yes I should no way be heavy town Stim was scummy looking and this could be my 3rd or 4th scum game, and I like to be really active as scum. Oh and Nightcat is noob town. I am confused is that your case on me Onegu or am i missing something Meta joke. | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
July 17 2013 01:27 GMT
#1686
On July 17 2013 10:09 Chromatically wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2013 10:06 Onegu wrote: First I am not going to make ALOT of reads I am looking but I am not going to post them all. Ill post my top reads until they flip or defend themselves well. There is little point in letting people sidestep pressure because I post multiple reads right after one another and my posts slowly get lost without a response. I don't see any reason not to explain your read on Nightcat, I said I will make a case on nightcat and gotard today. | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
July 17 2013 01:28 GMT
#1687
On July 17 2013 10:09 Chromatically wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2013 09:46 Onegu wrote: Because hurricane asked for 2 scum and 2 town reads. Onegu do you have an explanation for this? Why did you post this? Because I thought he did ask for both reads | ||
Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
July 17 2013 01:28 GMT
#1688
On July 17 2013 10:02 Onegu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2013 09:58 Nightcat99 wrote: On July 17 2013 09:45 hzflank wrote: Thanks Nightcat. I agree with your points on Gotard and with most of your reasoning (timing of your vote, etc). Out of interest, what do you think of Onegu? My opinion on Onegu is that he got way too much credit for stims blowup and VT claim, its like he walks into the game with a townie tag on his head and every one just accepted that. As far as i am concern, since we dont know the reason stim left, the blowup could still be a big scum play cause he feels that hes in danger. On July 15 2013 15:57 Onegu wrote: Scumteam Hurricane Koshi Rainbow/gotard I am really confidant in my hurricane read btw, he made sure he led the council and could make sure we never got off a town/town bandwagon. Alot of his posts just seem like he wants town cred, unlike last game. This is the only post i have foound on Onegu for scum reads, every thing else is just commenting on other peoples post and giving an opinion or saying if they are good or bad, Onegu made alot of post but not alot of reads. So i would like to ask for your new scum reads now because those picks are obviously outdated and atleast 50% incorrect. New scum team Hurricane Gotard Nightcat Nightcat and gotard case posted today while you fools sleep. Really thats the only scum hunting post you found? | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
July 17 2013 01:32 GMT
#1689
On July 16 2013 02:49 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2013 02:39 Onegu wrote: On July 16 2013 02:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Context from Page 13: "Upon realizing the importance of identifying my own biases, I am hereby disclosing everything I think I know now. If you catch me treating you based on any of the following, ask me to support it with analysis from this game if you feel I'm being unfair or displaying bias: (quicklist)" Onegu: no Town-side data available, as scum- willing to be generous with reads and assessments of fellow players, reacts poorly to pressure (concedes or makes ill-conceived claims in the interest of self-preservation), picks on lurkers as scum, hybrid activity level (active when able, often has legitimate real-world priorities, but always contributes to the game in meaningful ways) Alakaslam: chaotic poster. High activity level. high amount of fluff posted. insecure with reads, but very capable of independent analysis. has a hard time getting other townies on board with cases / reluctant to post full cases. reacts quickly to developments in the thread. Personally, I have an extremely difficult time reading Alakaslam, so I will probably leave it to the rest of the players to help me figure him out. Good luck to anyone with alakaslam. And to be fair my coach mentioned concedeing in scum qt before I thought about it. Most of the book on you is moot anyway because you're in such a unique position: your entire meta (not counting potentially NWM) is scum, and I (as well as most of the town, i think) have a strong Town read on you/StiM right now. You're a blank slate, but it is comforting to me personally that you're not picking on lurkers or confirming people as 'noob town' as you did in your scum games. | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
July 17 2013 01:33 GMT
#1690
On July 17 2013 10:28 Nightcat99 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2013 10:02 Onegu wrote: On July 17 2013 09:58 Nightcat99 wrote: On July 17 2013 09:45 hzflank wrote: Thanks Nightcat. I agree with your points on Gotard and with most of your reasoning (timing of your vote, etc). Out of interest, what do you think of Onegu? My opinion on Onegu is that he got way too much credit for stims blowup and VT claim, its like he walks into the game with a townie tag on his head and every one just accepted that. As far as i am concern, since we dont know the reason stim left, the blowup could still be a big scum play cause he feels that hes in danger. On July 15 2013 15:57 Onegu wrote: Scumteam Hurricane Koshi Rainbow/gotard I am really confidant in my hurricane read btw, he made sure he led the council and could make sure we never got off a town/town bandwagon. Alot of his posts just seem like he wants town cred, unlike last game. This is the only post i have foound on Onegu for scum reads, every thing else is just commenting on other peoples post and giving an opinion or saying if they are good or bad, Onegu made alot of post but not alot of reads. So i would like to ask for your new scum reads now because those picks are obviously outdated and atleast 50% incorrect. New scum team Hurricane Gotard Nightcat Nightcat and gotard case posted today while you fools sleep. Really thats the only scum hunting post you found? I am in Thailand it is 8:30am, I will post today my time while you guys are asleep. | ||
Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
July 17 2013 01:35 GMT
#1691
and i am confuse about why you are quoting that, because i have no problem with you calling me a noob, what i have a problem with is that you said its posted, and i cant find out then you said you will post it. | ||
Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
July 17 2013 06:17 GMT
#1692
On July 17 2013 02:36 Hurricane Sponge wrote: And explain this, please. I just looked over page 37 here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420227¤tpage=37 What did you find so relieving? People didnt immediately all assume vt meant vet | ||
Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
July 17 2013 06:19 GMT
#1693
On July 17 2013 02:41 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2013 02:37 Chromatically wrote: On July 17 2013 02:34 Hurricane Sponge wrote: On July 17 2013 02:31 Onegu wrote: @hurricane Defend thyself before I sleep. I'll defend once I see the rest of the scum jump on your wagon. Right now, it's solo pressure and I don't respect it. Once I get some votes on me, I'll refute what I need to, but for now, I'm going to scumhunt. What? This is just mindlessly throwing shit, calling anyone that votes for you scum, You're not giving your opinion because you "don't respect" his case? I've publicly stated that I think the mafia's play was to run with the Onegu FoS which is what saved me from the NK. I'm willing to wait to see who piles on before I refute the case. Is gathering reads in this manner unacceptable? Post is self nullifying -_- | ||
Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
July 17 2013 06:22 GMT
#1694
On July 17 2013 02:53 Onegu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2013 09:05 Umasi wrote: Kirby, I disagree. Scum has more than one goal in a game, believe it or not. It's not just to build towncred, otherwise being scum would be easy. (imo) Since all you'd have to do is be like me in the past game and post so fucking much and so irrationally that you won't get lynched And the first time alakaslam roles scum he will win, this I am 100% sure. SSSSSHHHHHHHHJJJJJJJJJJHJHHHHHHHHHHHHH1!!!!!!!!!!1' YOU RUIN IT + Show Spoiler + rofl how? Tell me post game | ||
Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
July 17 2013 06:24 GMT
#1695
On July 17 2013 03:01 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2013 02:57 Nightcat99 wrote: i just wanted to point out that i have been reading the guides for mafia and it clearly stated Priority #1: Establishing Your Innocence so hurricane not willing to explain his case because there is only one finger pointing at him is kind of odd so points finger. I established my innocence via quality posting. I'll refute the individual arguments when I feel the time is right. For now, get your vote on me if you actually think I'm scum. Otherwise, let's see some hunting, not sheeping. ....... Wow Oatsmaster style ftw Check the vote thread | ||
Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
July 17 2013 06:32 GMT
#1696
On July 17 2013 03:49 Umasi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2013 03:05 Hurricane Sponge wrote: On July 17 2013 03:03 Chromatically wrote: On July 17 2013 03:02 Hurricane Sponge wrote: On July 17 2013 03:00 Chromatically wrote: On July 17 2013 02:17 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Running with that, if Super is scum, the next logical avenue to chase down is the Kirby lynch. If Superfluous is scum, then either he was bussed, or there were scum entrenched on the Kirby wagon. StiM/Onegu, Chromatically, and Gotard were the three entrenched votes. I don't think Onegu/StiM or Chromatically are scum (and Chrom offered that his vote was semi-mobile). But it's hard to believe that only one scum (Gotard, in this case) was on a wagon to save their team. So I guess a Day 1 bus is possible. Chasing down the Bus Super avenue, that'd tag HZ as the only likely scum on that wagon (as the guy who started the wagon). Now, hz is a phenomenal mafia player, but that's a hell of a play. He was ready to paint his face and go to war to get Super lynched. Everyone has to make that call on their own. I don't think scum would bus like that, and most of the thread thinks hz is town. Neither of these scenarios seem as likely as a town/town wagon with an arbitrary distribution of scumvotes to me. Is this association stuff the only reason why Super is town? Also, why did you think that scum would jump on you after you PUBLICLY pointed out several times that you thought scum would jump on you? So it wouldn't be written off as just OMGUS. That doesn't answer the question (either of them). Why would scum go "this guy expects us to jump on his wagon, we should obviously do that"? It's win-win. If they don't jump on me, then I won't die. If they do, then it gives us reads on scum. There's another reason that I'm not quite ready to share yet (time-sensitive), but I promise I will share it if it looks like my lynch is inevitable. (The above bolded is the reason I'm making this play) NO NO NO NO NO FUCK THAT FUCK THAT ALL THE WAY TO HELL JESUS I DON'T EVEN GET LIKE, A SCUM READ ON YOU THAT'S JUST STUPID you basically just said "well if my lynch is inevitable I will then post something useful to town" jeeeeezus tell me if I misunderstood horribly. YESSS. UMASI THE PARTY IS!!! | ||
Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
July 17 2013 06:34 GMT
#1697
On July 17 2013 03:52 Onegu wrote: I know town wont cause a mislynch only scum. So if a mislynch is caused it will be by scum, if that happens we lynch the person who was set to be lynched and the person who caused the mislynch. The only time scum can do this is at lynch or lose, not day one. What u tired bro | ||
Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
July 17 2013 06:37 GMT
#1698
On July 17 2013 04:19 Hurricane Sponge wrote: I didn't understand Chrom's roleblock claim. Did any analysis come of that? Were we able to deduce anything? Glad to see I wasn't the only one to feel this way. Lets see if Koshi slayed you for it -_- | ||
Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
July 17 2013 06:39 GMT
#1699
On July 17 2013 04:34 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2013 04:30 Chromatically wrote: On July 17 2013 04:19 Hurricane Sponge wrote: I didn't understand Chrom's roleblock claim. Did any analysis come of that? Were we able to deduce anything? You always claim roleblocks, it helps on later nights. Who do you want to lynch? No clear target right now. Super needs to post more or he becomes a frontrunner to hang. Gotard needs to give me his scum reads. I'm still waiting to see who else puts their vote on me. Alakaslam is oddly silent, but I've directed questions to him that he should be answering when he gets back. (Xzavier is my pick for SK. No one has answered my appeal to the thread on whether or not it would be worth it to try to ferret out the SK at this time.) 1. Where they got buried and I had a 10 hour workday that started at noon Actually said everything in 1. | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
July 17 2013 06:45 GMT
#1700
On July 17 2013 15:34 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2013 03:52 Onegu wrote: I know town wont cause a mislynch only scum. So if a mislynch is caused it will be by scum, if that happens we lynch the person who was set to be lynched and the person who caused the mislynch. The only time scum can do this is at lynch or lose, not day one. What u tired bro Yeah I post with people either right before I sleep or right after I am awake. And replace mislynch with no lynch. | ||
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