On June 13 2013 15:49 NightOfTheDead wrote:
I wonder how they manage to balance such a complex game as starcraft 2.....
I wonder how they manage to balance such a complex game as starcraft 2.....
they haven't?
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Wojciech Zywny
Poland271 Posts
On June 13 2013 15:49 NightOfTheDead wrote: Show nested quote + On June 13 2013 15:47 StarStruck wrote: On June 13 2013 15:44 Wojciech Zywny wrote: why didn't they just let GOMTV run wcs korea and let OSL have their own separate event? wouldn't that be 10x better???? Because a lot of things Blizzard does makes very little sense? ._. I wonder how they manage to balance such a complex game as starcraft 2..... they haven't? | ||
Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On June 13 2013 15:44 Wojciech Zywny wrote: why didn't they just let GOMTV run wcs korea and let OSL have their own separate event? wouldn't that be 10x better???? because osl would have probably dropped sc2 if blizz wouldnt sponsor organize the wcs, osl now has LoL and their last sc2 osl was a fail so no point actually to run a sc2 league on their own pocket | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On June 13 2013 15:51 Wojciech Zywny wrote: Show nested quote + On June 13 2013 15:49 NightOfTheDead wrote: On June 13 2013 15:47 StarStruck wrote: On June 13 2013 15:44 Wojciech Zywny wrote: why didn't they just let GOMTV run wcs korea and let OSL have their own separate event? wouldn't that be 10x better???? Because a lot of things Blizzard does makes very little sense? ._. I wonder how they manage to balance such a complex game as starcraft 2..... they haven't? Zealously can add "6. SC2 is broken" to his list! | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2013 15:51 ZenithM wrote: Show nested quote + On June 13 2013 15:50 Zealously wrote: On June 13 2013 15:46 ZenithM wrote: Let Protoss have their moment of glory man, they're not winning shit otherwise :D They won't win any way, not with Life and Innovation both in the tournament B-but, you don't understand man, Protoss are going to roach-bane cheese all-in Life and Innovation out of the tournament. That's what this thread has taught me at least. Ah yes, and SC2 has too much variance and bad players will advance | ||
VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
On June 13 2013 15:10 Nyvis wrote: Of course, you can't see randomness by looking at winrates. Do you know about statistics? It's an average... But it's still random as hell, since every player feeling behind against a given opponent will probably cheese. I don't know why OSL have to do things differently from every other WCS tournaments, going away from a perfectly fine format. OSL is not going away from any format. They are simply not moving closer to the format you want to see. Big difference. | ||
Tsubbi
Germany7946 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=424&part=games&vs=all&league=team&map=any&from_year=2013&from_month=3&from_day=15&to_year=2013&to_month=6&to_day=3&action=Update http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=663&part=games&vs=all&league=team&map=any&from_year=2013&from_month=3&from_day=15&to_year=2013&to_month=6&to_day=9&action=Update http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=647&part=games&vs=all&league=team&map=any&from_year=2013&from_month=3&from_day=24&to_year=2013&to_month=6&to_day=10&action=Update | ||
Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
On June 13 2013 15:15 hzflank wrote: Why are OGN involved in this thing again? WCS Korea, and the WCS finals, would of been so much better if Gretech had done it all. Show nested quote + On June 13 2013 14:39 vesicular wrote: I seem to remember people pissing and moaning about Proleague when they found out the format after it switched to SC2 as well. In fact, you could probably just copy this thread and change "OSL" to "PL" and it would probably be the same thing. People eventually came around. Like most things, people are just overreacting because they haven't experienced it. OSL is wonderful, tense and dramatic and has been the premier SC tournament for a decade for a reason. We experienced an SC2 OSL last year and it was bad. You can't compare the level of KeSPA players during the first OSL (fresh from dual proleague) and now. The GSL used to use best of 1 in early 2011. It was changed because it is an inferior format. Starcraft 2 in 2011 was a complete joke. Especially the map pool. On June 13 2013 15:23 hzflank wrote: No idea about what? Ofcourse Gom will do season 3, we already knew that and it is completely irrelevant. So what do I not have any idea about? Are you trying to tell me that the OSL last year was as good as any of the GSL? And why should people like me not complain? Gretech has done a great job for the last couple of years and have tweaked their format to make it better for us viewers. OGN is using a format without even considering what the viewers want to see. Best case is the results are the same but we get to watch less games, which makes it lose/lose. Have you considered you are *not* OGN's main target audience? It's not like there was no eSports before SC2 or you came in. | ||
ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
Meh, now that my annoyance at their territorial alpha male butchering of the format just for the sake of it is out of the way: A: Soulkey, Flash: poor Ragnarok and Yugioh should be outmatched, though I think they have a slight chance of upsetting Flash if they play really aggressively. B: Innovation, Savage: Innovation is pretty much set (except for anything could happen with the BS that is Bo1s), second spot is a coin toss. I suppose Flying is the favorite for 2nd, but w/e. C: Sos, Effort D: Symbol, Curious: Please not Shine, please anybody but Shine. E: Life, Jangbi: Life is obvious and Jangbi has been in amazing form lately. F: Leenock, Roro: I would love if First somehow made it out of this group... G: Squirtle, YongHwa: LG-IM Protosses, best Protosses. H: Rain, Keen: Bomber will be in choke mode early this tournament, I feel. | ||
AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Why did Blizzard give a licence to these jokers?! | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
[...] Show nested quote + On June 13 2013 15:23 hzflank wrote: No idea about what? Ofcourse Gom will do season 3, we already knew that and it is completely irrelevant. So what do I not have any idea about? Are you trying to tell me that the OSL last year was as good as any of the GSL? And why should people like me not complain? Gretech has done a great job for the last couple of years and have tweaked their format to make it better for us viewers. OGN is using a format without even considering what the viewers want to see. Best case is the results are the same but we get to watch less games, which makes it lose/lose. Have you considered you are *not* OGN's main target audience? It's not like there was no eSports before SC2 or you came in. What people want to see is LoL and Word of Tanks dude. But World of Tanks Bo3 at least, let it be clear. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
On June 13 2013 16:06 ZenithM wrote: Show nested quote + [...] On June 13 2013 15:23 hzflank wrote: No idea about what? Ofcourse Gom will do season 3, we already knew that and it is completely irrelevant. So what do I not have any idea about? Are you trying to tell me that the OSL last year was as good as any of the GSL? And why should people like me not complain? Gretech has done a great job for the last couple of years and have tweaked their format to make it better for us viewers. OGN is using a format without even considering what the viewers want to see. Best case is the results are the same but we get to watch less games, which makes it lose/lose. Have you considered you are *not* OGN's main target audience? It's not like there was no eSports before SC2 or you came in. What people want to see is LoL and Word of Tanks dude. But World of Tanks Bo3 at least, let it be clear. I wanna watch ZooZoo Bubble Bo7 | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2013 16:05 -Archangel- wrote: Omg bo1 in ro32. That is so 2011... Why did Blizzard give a licence to these jokers?! Because television. It seems people fail to grasp how big of a deal that can be. | ||
XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
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Glioburd
France1901 Posts
On June 13 2013 15:54 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On June 13 2013 15:51 ZenithM wrote: On June 13 2013 15:50 Zealously wrote: On June 13 2013 15:46 ZenithM wrote: Let Protoss have their moment of glory man, they're not winning shit otherwise :D They won't win any way, not with Life and Innovation both in the tournament B-but, you don't understand man, Protoss are going to roach-bane cheese all-in Life and Innovation out of the tournament. That's what this thread has taught me at least. Ah yes, and SC2 has too much variance and bad players will advance It's funnt because it's true. On June 13 2013 16:01 Dreamer.T wrote: Seriously? Group E over a group with Flash and Soulkey? Only notable player in E is Life, sure the other are good, but they aren't top top tier. FlaSh vs Soulkey will be very exciting, but it's only one game. There are 2 other players you know, and it will be ZvZ... I agree that group E is the most overall interesting group to watch. | ||
Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On June 13 2013 16:01 Dreamer.T wrote: Seriously? Group E over a group with Flash and Soulkey? Only notable player in E is Life, sure the other are good, but they aren't top top tier. JangBi has one of the best records in Proleague, he is really good!! | ||
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