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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 10 2013 13:11 ReketSomething wrote: Just wanted to share this treasure... + Show Spoiler + http://www.reddit.com/r/bestofbronze <= golden subreddit HoG! | ||
Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
If we look at her mantra'd e objectively, it's a spell worth like at least 4, 5k gold-- shurleya, locket all in one. Kind of weird but it's pretty ridiculous. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 10 2013 13:29 Shikyo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 10 2013 13:25 onlywonderboy wrote: On April 10 2013 13:23 Shikyo wrote: On April 10 2013 13:11 sob3k wrote: woohoo karma gonna spam dat even more lol try ganking karma top 1. Mantra Q at gankers, 50% slow field 2. Speed self 60% for 1.5 seconds, shield 3. Tether ganker you aint touching shit 1. You can dodge skillshots, that's not even a difficult one to dodge. 2. Does barely anything. 3. If you're still in range, good luck surviving. Not many people get ganked by enemies in plain view. If you get ganked from behind, you're screwed, just as you are if you get laneganked or brush ganked, or caught without mantra. It's like my one friend we play Smash Bros with, anytime we exclaim in frustration about getting it he just says "Dodge it!" Gets pretty annoying, it's not always that easy, and a lot of people aren't doing to dodge it. We aren't all playing at high Elo so Karma's escape mechanics are gonna be pretty good when people aren't dodging skill shots. Oh I was the best player in Finland in SSBM for 4 years, what is difficult to dodge exactly? Falco's SHL and Fox's SHDL are difficult but other projectiles you shouldn't often get hit by. The strategies are mostly based around reducing the opponent's options by making them dodge those, indeed. And still, it can only slow one person as they aren't going to clump up... Still not really "ungankable" -.- edit: My responses are weirdly timed or something, getting confused I deleted my post on accident trying to add a second quote and couldn't get back to the old state in order to edit it >_> That's my point though, I'm not the best SSMB player anywhere and have a hard time dodging stuff or I let my opponent mind game me into taking free harass.. If you are that good you are in the minority but you're speaking as if the a majority of people are at the same skill level. I guess it's just the absoluteness of the statement that rubbed me the wrong way. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
RANGED DRILLER lol. Is that a mistake or intentional??? | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 10 2013 13:30 Parnage wrote: Willing to bet akali will still be fine.. Her laning phase won't be as obnoxious as before, otherwise, I think she will be fine. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 10 2013 13:39 Sufficiency wrote: http://www.sksports.net/T1/T1Players/lolplayers/listplayer.asp RANGED DRILLER lol. Is that a mistake or intentional??? It's ranged Diller, not Driller. From urban dictionary: Diller can be used to descibe many things. In replace of cool, good, or penis. | ||
Lmui
Canada6180 Posts
Example: http://i.imgur.com/esVNu1v.jpg + Show Spoiler + Oh and I hit plat I and got scared that i was promoted to the same division as I was in previously On the patch notes though, I'm surprised they aren't tweaking khazix/thresh. Khazix because his jump+voidspikes are pretty ridiculous and thresh because he's a more powerful version of blitzcrank. He can hook from further (despite the longer windup), brings an insane amount of damage to the table, is tanky via a shield and bonus armor AND can outpoke a lot of supports with autoattacks instead of being a binary support like blitz. | ||
red_
United States8474 Posts
On April 10 2013 13:40 Sufficiency wrote: Her laning phase won't be as obnoxious as before, otherwise, I think she will be fine. She won't be absolutely gutted but it's a hefty nerf. Her laning will obviously be weaker, which for a champ that requires the early power 'spike'(curve not sharp enough!) means she risks not hitting it more. Whether you hate the assassin role is a completely different discussion, but this nerf is huge for an assassin because they need that early power to get to a point where they can kill people at correct timings, or risk being wastes of space in teamfights. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 10 2013 13:56 red_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 10 2013 13:40 Sufficiency wrote: On April 10 2013 13:30 Parnage wrote: Willing to bet akali will still be fine.. Her laning phase won't be as obnoxious as before, otherwise, I think she will be fine. She won't be absolutely gutted but it's a hefty nerf. Her laning will obviously be weaker, which for a champ that requires the early power 'spike'(curve not sharp enough!) means she risks not hitting it more. Whether you hate the assassin role is a completely different discussion, but this nerf is huge for an assassin because they need that early power to get to a point where they can kill people at correct timings, or risk being wastes of space in teamfights. Her early pre-6 lane was bad enough as is; she could survive lane still, and force some pot burns early on. But that level 1- ult nerf hurts; especially since her post-6 is whats suppose to help her win back her lane after tough lane phase. | ||
Navi
5286 Posts
maybe ranged dealer? as in ranged attack dealer? who knows rofl | ||
Amui
Canada10563 Posts
On April 10 2013 14:13 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On April 10 2013 13:56 red_ wrote: On April 10 2013 13:40 Sufficiency wrote: On April 10 2013 13:30 Parnage wrote: Willing to bet akali will still be fine.. Her laning phase won't be as obnoxious as before, otherwise, I think she will be fine. She won't be absolutely gutted but it's a hefty nerf. Her laning will obviously be weaker, which for a champ that requires the early power 'spike'(curve not sharp enough!) means she risks not hitting it more. Whether you hate the assassin role is a completely different discussion, but this nerf is huge for an assassin because they need that early power to get to a point where they can kill people at correct timings, or risk being wastes of space in teamfights. Her early pre-6 lane was bad enough as is; she could survive lane still, and force some pot burns early on. But that level 1- ult nerf hurts; especially since her post-6 is whats suppose to help her win back her lane after tough lane phase. I feel like with the Q change they are aiming to make her lanephase roughly equivalent to kassadin. Except Kassadin when it hits lategame is one of the absolute best AP's, while akali kinda has to snowball midgame to be remain useful. | ||
Kouda
United States2205 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On April 10 2013 14:20 Amui wrote: Show nested quote + On April 10 2013 14:13 wei2coolman wrote: On April 10 2013 13:56 red_ wrote: On April 10 2013 13:40 Sufficiency wrote: On April 10 2013 13:30 Parnage wrote: Willing to bet akali will still be fine.. Her laning phase won't be as obnoxious as before, otherwise, I think she will be fine. She won't be absolutely gutted but it's a hefty nerf. Her laning will obviously be weaker, which for a champ that requires the early power 'spike'(curve not sharp enough!) means she risks not hitting it more. Whether you hate the assassin role is a completely different discussion, but this nerf is huge for an assassin because they need that early power to get to a point where they can kill people at correct timings, or risk being wastes of space in teamfights. Her early pre-6 lane was bad enough as is; she could survive lane still, and force some pot burns early on. But that level 1- ult nerf hurts; especially since her post-6 is whats suppose to help her win back her lane after tough lane phase. I feel like with the Q change they are aiming to make her lanephase roughly equivalent to kassadin. Except Kassadin when it hits lategame is one of the absolute best AP's, while akali kinda has to snowball midgame to be remain useful. I think another key point that Riot hopefully considered(doubtful) is that Akali is one of the great abusers of mass pot openings right now just to scrape by and hit that lvl 6 'healthy.' If they go forward with the nerfs to mass pot openers she is going to be on the frontline of champs hurt by it with less options than others(Flask is a no, new red pot is a no, rejuv beads are dead ends for her, tome only leaves money for 1 pot). | ||
Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On April 10 2013 14:40 red_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 10 2013 14:20 Amui wrote: On April 10 2013 14:13 wei2coolman wrote: On April 10 2013 13:56 red_ wrote: On April 10 2013 13:40 Sufficiency wrote: On April 10 2013 13:30 Parnage wrote: Willing to bet akali will still be fine.. Her laning phase won't be as obnoxious as before, otherwise, I think she will be fine. She won't be absolutely gutted but it's a hefty nerf. Her laning will obviously be weaker, which for a champ that requires the early power 'spike'(curve not sharp enough!) means she risks not hitting it more. Whether you hate the assassin role is a completely different discussion, but this nerf is huge for an assassin because they need that early power to get to a point where they can kill people at correct timings, or risk being wastes of space in teamfights. Her early pre-6 lane was bad enough as is; she could survive lane still, and force some pot burns early on. But that level 1- ult nerf hurts; especially since her post-6 is whats suppose to help her win back her lane after tough lane phase. I feel like with the Q change they are aiming to make her lanephase roughly equivalent to kassadin. Except Kassadin when it hits lategame is one of the absolute best AP's, while akali kinda has to snowball midgame to be remain useful. I think another key point that Riot hopefully considered(doubtful) is that Akali is one of the great abusers of mass pot openings right now just to scrape by and hit that lvl 6 'healthy.' If they go forward with the nerfs to mass pot openers she is going to be on the frontline of champs hurt by it with less options than others(Flask is a no, new red pot is a no, rejuv beads are dead ends for her, tome only leaves money for 1 pot). Good thing Riot is known for changing only one factor at a time and letting it play out for a long time so we can see if the game stabilizes and correctly gauge the effects of the balance change. | ||
cLutZ
United States19565 Posts
On that note, I am not at all disappointed by the Volibear nerfs, he is not fun to see in pro games. Basically an unfun Singed. Also Curse streams make elementz look(sound) terrible. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 10 2013 14:42 xes wrote: Show nested quote + On April 10 2013 14:40 red_ wrote: On April 10 2013 14:20 Amui wrote: On April 10 2013 14:13 wei2coolman wrote: On April 10 2013 13:56 red_ wrote: On April 10 2013 13:40 Sufficiency wrote: On April 10 2013 13:30 Parnage wrote: Willing to bet akali will still be fine.. Her laning phase won't be as obnoxious as before, otherwise, I think she will be fine. She won't be absolutely gutted but it's a hefty nerf. Her laning will obviously be weaker, which for a champ that requires the early power 'spike'(curve not sharp enough!) means she risks not hitting it more. Whether you hate the assassin role is a completely different discussion, but this nerf is huge for an assassin because they need that early power to get to a point where they can kill people at correct timings, or risk being wastes of space in teamfights. Her early pre-6 lane was bad enough as is; she could survive lane still, and force some pot burns early on. But that level 1- ult nerf hurts; especially since her post-6 is whats suppose to help her win back her lane after tough lane phase. I feel like with the Q change they are aiming to make her lanephase roughly equivalent to kassadin. Except Kassadin when it hits lategame is one of the absolute best AP's, while akali kinda has to snowball midgame to be remain useful. I think another key point that Riot hopefully considered(doubtful) is that Akali is one of the great abusers of mass pot openings right now just to scrape by and hit that lvl 6 'healthy.' If they go forward with the nerfs to mass pot openers she is going to be on the frontline of champs hurt by it with less options than others(Flask is a no, new red pot is a no, rejuv beads are dead ends for her, tome only leaves money for 1 pot). Good thing Riot is known for changing only one factor at a time and letting it play out for a long time so we can see if the game stabilizes and correctly gauge the effects of the balance change. Why do you think it took them so long to change eve, twitch, karma, and kat? they're still waiting on how those mana changes to heimer turrets are affecting him still. | ||
Craton
United States17178 Posts
Balance solved. | ||
iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 10 2013 13:11 ReketSomething wrote: Just wanted to share this treasure... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci3-OaSXx_4 + Show Spoiler + http://www.reddit.com/r/bestofbronze <= golden subreddit LOL. I like how he literally missed everything. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 10 2013 14:46 cLutZ wrote: Akali is alot like Darius in that she has a kit that is hard to balance for all levels of play. Using the SSBM analogy, it is alot like the Shiek chaingrab vs. certain chars. This is TL, and therefore caters only to good players (and players who think they are good), but Akali is presumably antifun to face for a significant portion of the playerbase. On that note, I am not at all disappointed by the Volibear nerfs, he is not fun to see in pro games. Basically an unfun Singed. Also Curse streams make elementz look(sound) terrible. Sheik chaingrab made 70% of the roster completely unusable and has no counterplay at all apart from just not getting grabbed by a character with likely the second-best grabgame in the entire game after Marth. This isn't even close to that. You could perhaps use something like CCC Dsmash by peach against players who cannot space, that would be a legit comparison. On April 10 2013 15:03 iCanada wrote: Show nested quote + On April 10 2013 13:11 ReketSomething wrote: Just wanted to share this treasure... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci3-OaSXx_4 + Show Spoiler + http://www.reddit.com/r/bestofbronze <= golden subreddit LOL. I like how he literally missed everything. My favorite part is that the Amumu maxes Q first as a jungler. | ||
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