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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On April 06 2013 19:54 Palmar wrote: iamp doesn't look too bad honestly. But I don't think Oats does either. They both look fine. And it's not that iamp does or doesn't look fine that's even the point about that post. I didn't really see the need to spend half of his first major analysis defending someone who didn't need defending. And I think Oats is town. So *shrug* | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On April 06 2013 19:54 marvellosity wrote: I think I'll get more support for this lynch, so whatever that's what scares me. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
You should be seeing me as pretty strong town by now. Just saying. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
sciberbia (3): Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Palmar WaveofShadow (2): Tunkeg, marvellosity AxleGreaser (1): prplhz iamperfection (1): DarthPunk prplhz (1): iamperfection Not voting (4): AxleGreaser, sciberbia, Ace, WaveofShadow 7 votes needed to lynch. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On April 06 2013 19:59 marvellosity wrote: You should be seeing me as pretty strong town by now. Just saying. it's just a numbers game. I can't recall anyone not liking a WoS lynch. also I don't understand if there's a connection why sciberbia cannot be the first one to go? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On April 06 2013 20:14 Palmar wrote: also I don't see this connection, but I'm also not a fan of associative tells at all, I believe they give weapons to the mafia. I'll talk about it later maybe. Anyway there's something I want to check from WoS's past games that I haven't checked yet, namely how he responded to suspicion. WoS has for some reason always been under heavy suspicion on the Day 1s of the games he's played, even though while obsing I've found him fairly townie. In this game he threw dirt on rayn ("horrible analysis" - which he backed off from incidentally) and on me ("don't know why marv, a seemingly solid player, is agreeing with rayn"). I don't remember him doing this in other games, but until I check I'll do you the courtesy of an ##Unvote | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On April 06 2013 20:02 marvellosity wrote: I might as well say it given I alluded to it; I think a WoS red-flip heavily implicates sciberbia as red. Which is an underneath reason why I want to lynch WoS today. Could you elaborate? Is it these posts you find incriminating? On April 06 2013 06:47 sciberbia wrote: @WoS + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far? I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. You do seem to be inviting Axle to give his opinion on rayn's alignment, so I think rayn's summary of your post was fair. On the other hand, Axle did seem to have misinterpreted your intentions, but I don't see why bad reading comprehension is suspicious in and of itself. I highly doubt he intentionally lied about what you said. Also, do you actually want to lynch Ace today? Just because you think he is good at scum? On April 06 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote: Are you worried or something? Iamp's wasn't a random joke vote either. If you're going to start saying something then come out and say it; what about me being the only person on your 'wagon' concerns you, and what about Oats' posting concerns you specifically? And Marv as to me drawing any conclusions, I don't have any right now but I find it suspect that two people both manage to look wrongly into my posting in the exact same way. It's not even like my filter was particularly hard to read or anything; I had 3 POSTS at the time. I didn't change my vote or mention lynching at all in regards to Rayn, he just took it and went: "HE WANTS TO KILL ME HE MUST BE SCUM!!!!" One more thing regarding prplhz that I wanted to mention in case anyone finds it interesting: of all of his one liners manage to be soft defenses (except for maybe the last posts regarding Axle). Soft defense of Axle. Soft defense of Ace. Soft defense of me. Soft defenses rub me the wrong way. I'm assuming by the vote and what can now barely be constituted as pressure that Axle is prplhz's primary scumread but I'd really like to know why. On April 06 2013 09:07 sciberbia wrote: @WoS I don't know if you missed my last post, but.. First of all, as a point of fact, rayn didn't misinterpret your post in the same way Axle did. You posted this, where you ask Axle if he thinks rayn is worth paying attention to. + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far? I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. And rayn summarised your post as 'asking Axle if we should kill rayn', which I think is a fair (although exaggerated) summary. Moving on, Your stance on Ace is confusing. Maybe you could communicate it better. First, marv made a troll vote on Ace. You jumped on the bandwaggon and voted Ace. How serious was this vote? Clearly it's not THAT serious because you are talking a lot about prplhz and rayn and not pushing an ace lynch. On the other hand, it is clearly at least somewhat serious because you said you stand by it. But if it's somewhat serious, why did you say "I'm with marv on this one" when it was clear marv was just trolling? Do you really think a policy lynch of Ace is in town's best interests? I'm confused. Help me out here. On April 06 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote: I didn't miss your last post. If that's Rayn's summary of my post it's terrible because I specifically state that I don't want to pay him any mind, I just wanted to hear Axle's opinion of him, which I (sort of) got. How that = lynch I have no idea but you seem to think is somewhat justified. Whatever. As for Ace, fine, you caught me I suppose. Not the most serious vote around but I must say considering all the reverence people seem to show him it does scare me that we haven't seen anything useful from him yet and people are willing to let him go under the pretense of 'joke pressure.' I guess though it may not make sense to consider policy lynching him as I've heard suggested before if I haven't seen him at work myself. A half-serious vote you can call it I guess, but since iamp/marv left I can't hope to generate any more discussion or anything from Ace himself, it seems. ##Unvote: Ace I could vote prplhz, but how can I be sure that isn't just his 'typical play' as Oats previously told me? On April 06 2013 12:48 sciberbia wrote: He seems less so in his red team filter; he explained his reads more at any rate. I don't really know what to make of his many impulsive votes, but I suspect he just likes attention. Ace, what do you think about WoS in light of his most recent posts? Is he scum? Why or why not? On April 06 2013 13:10 sciberbia wrote: Nowhere in WoS's filter does he state any kind of scumread on you. He claims to have originally voted you as a half-serious policy lynch with the half-serious logic that you are very good at scum but can be a liability as town. He also says he thinks its a shame that people are content to let you do nothing because that is what you supposedly do on d1 as either alignment. But he doesn't state a scumread. Does that affect your read? Because I can totally see what you mean here. Given that your assumption is correct, that they are both scum, then the first 4 posts would mean that sci is helping WoS out of his "Ace-trouble" by asking him easy questions for him to change stances. And in the last 2 posts he is soft-defending him. But I am not sure if I like you lining up the lynches like that. I think this might be a town Sci having a wrong read on a scum WoS. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
I'm curious how you're standing so firmly against Palmar on sciberbia, normally you respect his judgement quite a lot. | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On April 06 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote: It's a combination of sciberbia not mentioning WoS for a very long time, and then seemingly giving WoS an out as you mention. I'm curious how you're standing so firmly against Palmar on sciberbia, normally you respect his judgement quite a lot. I do, I allways value the opinions of players I think is good over the opinions of those less good. At least I do when the players are playing, and not trolling, and Palmar seem to be playing here. But I am also of the opinion that the good players and the veterans should be treated the same as the rest. Meaning I will not uncritically follow their judgement. In this case it means I will not sheep Palmar and change my opinions, but instead I will go back and reevaluate my stance on sci. I will be more critical to my own judgement. I have done this, and I am still seing sci's post as more townmotivated than scummotivated. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
##Vote: sciberbia | ||
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iamperfection
United States9635 Posts
I don't understand this argument that doing jack shit is not alignment indicative. Scum don't have an incentive to catch scum and we have seen it countless times before scum doing nothing and flipping you guessed it scum. This he looks to bad to be scum argument is stupid. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
But because he's always awful there is no reason to think that him being awful here means he's scum. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9635 Posts
On April 06 2013 22:03 Palmar wrote: I would actually be fine with lynching prplhz just based on how terribly he's playing. But because he's always awful there is no reason to think that him being awful here means he's scum. There isnt even a flicker of a townie mindset in any of his posts he is just there. Ever single post he made is completely useless. Despite whatever you think of him as a player there would at least be a glimmer of townieness if he were in fact town. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On April 06 2013 19:33 marvellosity wrote: I'll summarise for you - pushes iamp the disappears when iamp starts defending himself, never to return. I've been socialising as it was a saturday. I'm here now reading the thread. and can talk if anyone is around. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On April 06 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote: It's a combination of sciberbia not mentioning WoS for a very long time, and then seemingly giving WoS an out as you mention. I'm curious how you're standing so firmly against Palmar on sciberbia, normally you respect his judgement quite a lot. I don't know how relevant this even is as neither have flipped and associations do nothing to make a lynch on either of them more persuasive IMO. I have felt that WoS has been somewhat scummy from what I have read of him so far, but that being said I felt he was scummy from EVERYTHING I read of him in The Game. That in itself has made me cautious of a WoS lynch. Sciberbia I think should be given time to contribute as he has a reputation for being really solid as town and that should come across, or not, given contributions from him. | ||
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