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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 06 2013 03:32 GMT
#441
is Rayne always this impulsive?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
April 06 2013 03:48 GMT
#442
On April 06 2013 12:32 Ace wrote:
is Rayne always this impulsive?

He seems less so in his red team filter; he explained his reads more at any rate. I don't really know what to make of his many impulsive votes, but I suspect he just likes attention.

Ace, what do you think about WoS in light of his most recent posts? Is he scum? Why or why not?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 06 2013 03:52 GMT
#443
I'm still leaning Scum on him. For a guy that had his vote on me all that time and pushed around some other suspicions, he was pretty quick to back off when hit with some pressure (that didn't even come from me). I think if any townie really believed I was Scum he'd put up much more of a fight than that.

But him saying people shouldn't be allowing me to do "nothing" because I've got a rep resonated with me. I love when players say that so I kinda want to keep him around for that.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
April 06 2013 04:10 GMT
#444
On April 06 2013 12:52 Ace wrote:
I think if any townie really believed I was Scum he'd put up much more of a fight than that.


Nowhere in WoS's filter does he state any kind of scumread on you. He claims to have originally voted you as a half-serious policy lynch with the half-serious logic that you are very good at scum but can be a liability as town. He also says he thinks its a shame that people are content to let you do nothing because that is what you supposedly do on d1 as either alignment. But he doesn't state a scumread.

Does that affect your read?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 06 2013 08:53 GMT
#445
I'm very uncertain at the moment.

WoS keeps repeatedly saying little things that make me just go... uggghghhhh scum. Rayn is an asshole but I don't know if he's scum, his style is annoying and useless which is a good thing if he happens to roll scum as scum like being annoying and useless.

I don't think much can be read into prplhz yet.

I'll make a decision sometime today.
Computer says mafia
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
April 06 2013 09:54 GMT
#446
On April 06 2013 06:47 sciberbia wrote:
@WoS
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far?
I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits.


You do seem to be inviting Axle to give his opinion on rayn's alignment, so I think rayn's summary of your post was fair.

On the other hand, Axle did seem to have misinterpreted your intentions, but I don't see why bad reading comprehension is suspicious in and of itself. I highly doubt he intentionally lied about what you >>>said<<<.

Also, do you actually want to lynch Ace today? Just because you think he is good at scum?


You have I believe brought this up once or twice, yet not pushed me directly on it all....

Do you have question for me?

I have one for you.

I think you will find that if you read my post carefully, you will find I used the word .... [b]'thought'[b].

He had indeed not [b]said[b] he wanted to (potentially?) lynch him, he had however made inflammatory remarks likely to elicit an emotive response, by asking me to post on the subject he had in some sense handed me a metaphorical anchor.
I (effectively)thanked him and gave it back. I was as careful as I could be to not be further inflammatory myself.

If he did not indeed 'think' such posting style could be indicative of scuminess or used as shield to hide/obscure scummy play whenever you do roll scum, and hence part of a potential reason to lynch someone...
Why is it relevant to the thread and what scum hunting intention/thought did he have in making the post? All I am left with its inflammatory nature.


@Sciberbia: Questions. have you asked your self these Questions?

Do you know something I don't?


BTW. I did try not to make the question too hard... I provided one version of the answer at the bottom of the post.
All someone had to do to answer the question was read what I said, and actually try and understand what I was saying,
and either agree with what I said
"I would need to see something directly scummy, rather than just noisily anti town.."
or provide your own view.


Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 06 2013 10:00 GMT
#447
AxleGreaser who is your number one scumread? And why?

prplhz and DarthPunk should answer this as well.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 06 2013 10:25 GMT
#448
I think rayn is looking worse for each post he does. He is back to one liners all the way, and he is being disruptive as fuck. He is jumping around from target to target without any direction, and any reason. I can't see what he is trying to achieve from a townperspective, as a scum his play makes sense though. He is trying to appear active and he is disrupting the thread instead of contributing. I am leaning scum on him, and wouldn't mind lynching him today.

Another one I find disruptive as fuck is Oats. But I can't read him for shit, his posts are so strange that the only thing I have managed to read from him is that he want Sci lynched, and that he is superaggressive. The problem though is that I see no direction on his aggression, he is just lashing out at everyone. I am starting leaning scum on him as well, but not as much as rayn.

Then you got WaveofShadow. His entire filter is just completely nonsense. His vote on Ace, and the way he backed out of that vote later just seems so strange. The way his post are formated, they are long as fuck, but say so very little. To me it seems very much like he is posting just to appear active. He is the player I find most scummy thus far, and if I were to lynch someone right now, it would be him.

##Vote: WaveofShadow

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 06 2013 10:30 GMT
#449
##Unvote
##Vote Sciberbia

I think this is the direction I want to go in.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 06 2013 10:31 GMT
#450
Fuck, literally the entire of Saturday has pretty much passed by in Australia, and Axle has made one post and DarthPunk zero. That's shit. Shitty shitty shitty poopypants.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 06 2013 10:32 GMT
#451
On April 06 2013 19:30 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sciberbia

I think this is the direction I want to go in.


Can you explain it to me nice because I really want to lynch someone else right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 06 2013 10:32 GMT
#452
I should probably actually read something in DP's filter
Computer says mafia
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 06 2013 10:33 GMT
#453
On April 06 2013 19:30 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sciberbia

I think this is the direction I want to go in.


Could you at least give us some reasoning?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 06 2013 10:33 GMT
#454
I'll summarise for you - pushes iamp the disappears when iamp starts defending himself, never to return.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 06 2013 10:36 GMT
#455
On April 06 2013 19:33 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 19:30 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sciberbia

I think this is the direction I want to go in.


Could you at least give us some reasoning?


I already thought he didn't look very good, then I very much did not like his big post on Oats/Iamp. Maybe I'm insane here, but I really don't think it's reasonable to push oats at the moment.

Also sciberbia has a few of those indirect question things I don't really like, I mentioned it in my first post against him, this validation seeking thing.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 06 2013 10:44 GMT
#456
On April 06 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 19:33 Tunkeg wrote:
On April 06 2013 19:30 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sciberbia

I think this is the direction I want to go in.


Could you at least give us some reasoning?


I already thought he didn't look very good, then I very much did not like his big post on Oats/Iamp. Maybe I'm insane here, but I really don't think it's reasonable to push oats at the moment.

Also sciberbia has a few of those indirect question things I don't really like, I mentioned it in my first post against him, this validation seeking thing.


Alright. You don't realise this because I've kept my cards close to my chest so far this game, but I agree completely with everything you've said about the people I'm suspicious of. I agree about the big post on oats/iamp. He spent several paragraphs defending iamp when he only had one serious detractor at the time (DP) and I didn't find the push on Oats very reasonable either (maybe you can guess this from my reaction). Also agreed with the validation thing - talking about setup is fine, except he kinda didn't even really give an opinion, he was just fawning at you.

The problem I have is that what you picked out from WoS about his town-claim is exactly what I picked out (and incidentally made me feel much better about YOUR alignment). I find it bizarre as shit that you're the only one to mention it in those terms actually. Just to repeat for anyone who's not me & Palmar:

On April 05 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phew. Real happy I rolled town this time around; I feel really bad for whoever is on my scumteam when I roll mafia for the first time.


It felt disgusting to me, and I've not actually been able to stop thinking about it all game. It's been like the main thing in my head. Because it doesn't take very long, I went back and had a look at the opening of all WoS's games yesterday. He's always rolled town, and he's never mentioned his alignment in his opening post in any of the games he's played here so far. So in this game, he rolls town for the... 6th? time or so, and for some reason, in this game, he decides to tell us that he's town, and worse talks about feeling bad if he rolls mafia. I don't understand the mentality here at all if he's town. He's rolled town again as per usual, and for some reason this time decides to tell us that at some point he'll be shit as mafia? What?

I could write more about WoS and flesh out the case if it's really necessary. Suffice to say (and basically what Palmar/Tunkeg) have said, nothing he's said or done since has alleviated the feelings I got from this first post. I think he's a better lynch than sciberbia.

##Vote: WaveOfShadow
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 06 2013 10:48 GMT
#457
I actually have some connection feelings between WoS and sciberbia too, but I'll wait until if/when WoS flips red to talk about that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 06 2013 10:53 GMT
#458
I actually think sciberbias Oats/iamp post is his best in this game. It might be because I agree with the overall point of his post, iamp being greener and oats being redder. I also fail to see the overall scumplot in his play.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 06 2013 10:53 GMT
#459
I almost went with WaveOfShadow, I even have a half-finished quote collection of things that just look very strange in his filter in another tab, might as well post it here:

On April 05 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phew. Real happy I rolled town this time around; I feel really bad for whoever is on my scumteam when I roll mafia for the first time.


On April 06 2013 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also Rayn what the actual fuck? You absolutely shit up the thread for a day enough so everyone wants to ignore you for the rest of the game? Is that it? Can you DO something please?


On April 06 2013 01:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hai guise.
Just finished an exam, did well on another and I'm feelin' gooooooooood.
SO whass all this I come back to? Errrboddy got a scum read on me yet nobody wants to throw a vote over this way, huh?
K.

Hai Oats. It's a pleasure to be in a game with you finally.


But no, I think I'd rather lynch sciberbia, WoS's later posts aren't as bad and I just have this feeling scib is the better lynch.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#460
On April 06 2013 19:53 Tunkeg wrote:
I actually think sciberbias Oats/iamp post is his best in this game. It might be because I agree with the overall point of his post, iamp being greener and oats being redder. I also fail to see the overall scumplot in his play.



iamp doesn't look too bad honestly. But I don't think Oats does either.
Computer says mafia
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