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What do you guys gain as scum by killing me?
Tomorrow people will know I'm town anyway.
I'm not that invested in staying alive on this deal, I'm invested in finding mafia, and right now Adam looks insanely ridiculous to come in defending Hapa right now. But he might just be dead wrong about the both of us, so there's that.
What is most suspicious is the lack of ANYTHING from Zare. Dude is being called mafia by everyone in the game and he's all kinds of AFK, lol.
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On March 04 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote: What do you guys gain as scum by killing me?
Tomorrow people will know I'm town anyway.
I'm not that invested in staying alive on this deal, I'm invested in finding mafia, and right now Adam looks insanely ridiculous to come in defending Hapa right now. But he might just be dead wrong about the both of us, so there's that.
What is most suspicious is the lack of ANYTHING from Zare. Dude is being called mafia by everyone in the game and he's all kinds of AFK, lol.
Not an actual defense for him but:
He's always busy Sundays. Like he never posts in the thread on Sundays.
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On March 04 2013 12:21 Acrofales wrote: Momentum HAD swung wildly to Kei: there was no way Adam was going to get single-lynched, but at that point, if Yamato was scum they had 2 of the 4 possible swing votes. All they needed to do was rally behind a group of townies (Iamp, thrawn and me).
Alternatively, Yamato could choose to stay put on Adam and be a stubborn dick about it. Dieno could go double-lynching. They just had to bet on Syl staying AFK or sticking with his Adam read. They could clearly trust me to keep rallying the double-lynch troops. Yamato could have kicked up a fuss to lynch Adam.
Yet.. he didn't, and caused what was clearly a bad lynch for scum to happen easily.
The difference between Yamato and your position on double-lynching is that you were on Keir and had said you had 2 town reads. Yamato had given a scumread on Keir, then a scumread on Adam. He eventually flipped to a townread on Adam and a slightly-less-town-read on Keir. And all of that just so he could NOT push the mafia agenda.
That makes no fucking sense.
First, you say that Yamato could have "rallied behind a group of townies" to get the double-lynch.
But this is CLEARLY not the case given what he was saying far before then: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398360¤tpage=49#975
THAT said, I don't want both to die. The mere thought of a double lynch is hilariously stupid in this situation, and I don't like the idea of not choosing either of them at all. Mafia have an unprecedented ability to hide in this situation, because they don't even have to FAKE a read on a player and justify it, they can just say they think they're both worth lynching and not vote, causing a double lynch.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398360¤tpage=49#978
On February 27 2013 16:54 yamato77 wrote: Well, we should definitely not let both die.
And we should definitely make sure we don't jump the gun on being stupid with these sort of duels in the future, because as my initial reaction showed, it's mafia-favored to do something like this.
That said, I think I have some decent reads out of what happened today, so going into tomorrow, I hope people start listening to me.
Yamato had no option to double lynch. He was vehemently against the idea far before he switched onto Kei. Your distinction...
The difference between Yamato and your position on double-lynching is that you were on Keir and had said you had 2 town reads. Yamato had given a scumread on Keir, then a scumread on Adam.
...is completely meaningless. This is how Yamato's lynch actions played out: 1) Wants Kier dead pre-lynch 2) Wants Adam dead right after the lynch 3) Thinks both are town, DOES NOT WANT A DOUBLE LYNCH 4) All of a sudden thinks Kei is scum when the momentum shifts.
Explain to me how Yamato could get from step #3 to "double lynch."
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I really don't care what people think about my alignment anymore
Think about why Hapa has a scum read on me. Very conveniently timed. Of course he's not going to stop arguing about it, because to admit defeat here is to die for certain.
I'm all for town lynching me so long as one of you has the sack to lynch Hapa tomorrow.
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I had a scum-read on you before you dueled me Yamato. Don't twist things.
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On March 04 2013 12:34 Hapahauli wrote: I had a scum-read on you before you dueled me Yamato. Don't twist things. Once you figured out I wanted to lynch you.
Think about this, mafia Hapa, what is your plan if you get me lynched and I flip town and everyone realizes you actually are mafia?
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On March 04 2013 12:37 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 12:34 Hapahauli wrote: I had a scum-read on you before you dueled me Yamato. Don't twist things. Once you figured out I wanted to lynch you. Think about this, mafia Hapa, what is your plan if you get me lynched and I flip town and everyone realizes you actually are mafia?
Don't know, don't think it will happen, and don't care.
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Yamato: if we lynch Hapa and he flips town. Who, other than Zapa is scum?
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On March 04 2013 12:43 Acrofales wrote: Yamato: if we lynch Hapa and he flips town. Who, other than Zapa is scum? Maybe you, as I once thought. Maybe Corazon, since his balls seem to have gone missing today.
Oats I doubt is mafia, because he is always like this.
Adam is probably just really wrong, to be honest, and there's no good reason he's mafia.
Snarfs is probably town. Covered.
Sylencia is also probably town, much for the same reason Adam is.
Alderan might be a missing link in here somwhere, too. That guy's disappearing act lately is at mythical proportions. I don't even know what his read on me is, much less the rest of the game.
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On March 04 2013 12:47 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 12:43 Acrofales wrote: Yamato: if we lynch Hapa and he flips town. Who, other than Zapa is scum? Maybe you, as I once thought. Maybe Corazon, since his balls seem to have gone missing today.
Oh fuck you Yamato.
Do you really want to see a me/Syl duel when you all tried your hardest to stop it?
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No, because there's no point. You're low on the totem pole, but the fact remains that you deserve a look if Hapa flips town.
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On March 04 2013 12:50 yamato77 wrote: No, because there's no point. You're low on the totem pole, but the fact remains that you deserve a look if Hapa flips town.
You're the one who was so hasty to duel him. You'd be the first one to deserve a look.
Of course if you are so confident Hapa is scum why are you even mentioning the possibilities if he flips town?
Are you setting yourself up to bounce back from a mislynch?
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On March 04 2013 12:52 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 12:50 yamato77 wrote: No, because there's no point. You're low on the totem pole, but the fact remains that you deserve a look if Hapa flips town. You're the one who was so hasty to duel him. You'd be the first one to deserve a look. Of course if you are so confident Hapa is scum why are you even mentioning the possibilities if he flips town? Are you setting yourself up to bounce back from a mislynch? Acro asked me...
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Duel 3 Vote Count
yamato77 (1): Adam4167 Hapahauli (1): Acrofales
5 votes needed to lynch. 37 hours left until 17:19 GMT (+00:00)
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On March 04 2013 12:33 yamato77 wrote: I really don't care what people think about my alignment anymore
Think about why Hapa has a scum read on me. Very conveniently timed. Of course he's not going to stop arguing about it, because to admit defeat here is to die for certain.
I'm all for town lynching me so long as one of you has the sack to lynch Hapa tomorrow.
Give the man what he wants.
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Adam, are you sure you're not mafia?
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Time, and scummier people.
If that's your biggest hangup, we shouldn't be having a problem here.
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I don't see how me downgrading him from scum to null is even a thing.
It's like you think I'm mafia with Acro or something, which is laughably dumb.
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You just thought you'd casually throw some suspicion on him and never follow it up?
I really cant see a townie mindset for doing that.
I have a half-dozen reasons to think you're scum, I've covered them extensively in my filter.
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