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Braavos36362 Posts
On March 23 2007 03:16 Mynock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2007 22:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
explain why its more than superfight?
superfight 3 was OSL winner vs MSL winner
shinhan masters was 3 OSL winners and a qualifier
i don't see how one is "way more" prestigious than the other Oh, not all the superfights. But you know, 1 bo5 for NaDa vs sAviOr in 1 SuperFight, vs 3bo5s, plus a tourney to select 1 of the players, plus the prize is bigger, plus the golden ring you get for your win... Yeah, it's a lot more. But really, you just have to look at how much more talked about this tourney is than any of the previous SuperFights. Now the next SuperFight also looks like a huge thing, but prestige is determined not just by measures of size. It just so happens that OGN is viewed by more people, hence their tournaments are hyped up more and have more interest from the community. Also, whoever started comparing the Masters to the SuperFIght? I was talking about fighting in the finals of the Masters vs fighting for 3rd place in Shinhan 03, that's all. I never mentioned the SuperFights. Don't drift away from the point. If anything, Hot_Bid, you should ask sundance why he thinks these special tourneys are not prestigious "in his book". -Mynock
mynock, i am allowed to address other people in the thread, i'm not only obsessed with you, so please keep that in mind before you start saying stuff like "i never mentioned the superfights!!"
every post of mine is not directed towards you ok? someone else compared it.
nobody is denying that shinhan masters is a prestigious tournament that the players wanted to win. all i am saying is that OSL and MSL are on one level, and the superfights and shinhan masters on the next. the SM aren't "much more" prestigious than the superfights as they are both second tier invite only one time (in this case one qualifier and one final) tournaments. they do not compare to the starleagues.
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They do not compare to the StarLeagues. They were being compared to the 3rd place of OSL dammit. Why can't people just just read and respond to what has been written, without making stuff up?
How many 3rd place finishers of the major leagues you can name?
How many SF winners?
There you go.
But if you really want to compare the 3rd finishers, the SuperFights, and the ShinHan Masters, sure:
In terms of prize money, SHM wins, altho SF is close. In terms of who's going to be remembered more, SHM wins. In terms of trophies, SHM wins (trophy plus ring). In terms of tournament level difficulty and competition, SHM wins (you have to WIN an OSL, OR the ShinHan PreMasters, it's not invite only, and it's not a fight for a 3rd place where you couldn't advance).
So yeah, if this tourney is not über-prestigious I dunno what is. The only thing ranked higher for me is an OSL final, which is the pinnacle of modern pro-BW. MSL is very close.
Awaiting your reasonings now, if there are any...
PS.: To think it all started because sundance was being retarded and couldn't grasp that Casy wouldn't fight as hard for 3rd place OSL as sAviOr would for a win in SHM. Don't post again sundance, you're giving people from Central Europe a bad name.
-Mynock
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How many 3rd place finishers of the major leagues you can name?
Every single one since freemure won one and ssamjang was third.
Anytime.
How many SF winners?
I remeber savior a none others. I'm not quite sure how many sf we've already had.
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On March 23 2007 10:21 Mynock wrote:
PS.: To think it all started because sundance was being retarded and couldn't grasp that Casy wouldn't fight as hard for 3rd place OSL as sAviOr would for a win in SHM. Don't post again sundance, you're giving people from Central Europe a bad name.
-Mynock
I love your intelligent way of arguing.
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On March 23 2007 10:41 sundance wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2007 10:21 Mynock wrote:
PS.: To think it all started because sundance was being retarded and couldn't grasp that Casy wouldn't fight as hard for 3rd place OSL as sAviOr would for a win in SHM. Don't post again sundance, you're giving people from Central Europe a bad name.
-Mynock I love your intelligent way of arguing.
I'm not arguing with you. I'm telling you to stop posting. I'm arguing with members who actually possess the intellectual capacity to do so.
I think I'm done talking to you
-sundance
With posts like this your're basically making a fool of yourself.
lol @ über-prestigious tournament
Now this is a retarded way of arguing.
Unless you can actually come up with a SINGLE argument in favor of what you're saying, we can actually talk. I'm eagerly awaiting the moment it happens.
-Mynock
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You are not worth of my time. Actually you're even not worth of Cpt. Obvious's fart.
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OK last one thing. After Yellow won the Snickers he said it's just special event but it's nice to finally won something. And Nada in one of his interviews said something similar. Remember that first prize was 2 times bigger then what you get for the 1. place in the OSL (50 000$) and there were the best players atm.
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On March 23 2007 18:59 intelinside wrote:
SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR SAVIOR then nada then bisu
come on man that's annoying
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its not annoying, its false
right now its like savi... nada bisu
before the last games it was saviorsaviorsavior...
D:
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On March 26 2007 05:57 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
its not annoying, its false
right now its like savi... nada bisu
before the last games it was saviorsaviorsavior...
D:
hahhhahahha yea savior reign has COME TO AND END
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CA10824 Posts
i don't even care if nada isn't #1 on power rank. just get rid of garbage zerg, please.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Bisu showed that he can beat Nada and Savior...AGAIN.
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Bisu
Savior
Nada
Iris
Top 4 hi.
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On March 31 2007 10:44 KizZBG wrote:
Bisu showed that he can beat Nada and Savior...AGAIN.
ya this pwer rank needs updating URGENTLY~~~~
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I still dont see how so many of you thought just because nada 3-1'ed savior on favored tvz maps that he deserved to be over bisu. When bisu 3-0'ED savior on pretty balanced maps. And 3-0'ED Nal_ra. The bisu vs casy game is pretty irrevelant id say. Clearly if he can beat nada that game was just a fluke. Id say Bisu #1 next month and its a throwup between nada and savior for #2 probably savior though.
Edit: basically hot bid and the rdgrshfi w.e guy knows what they're talking about. Mynock is clearly a biased nada fan. If you put nada and savior up on a really balanced map like luna or rush hour 3 or something of that sort and they played 100 games savior would probably win 75 or more.
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On March 31 2007 13:59 TheGreatOne wrote:
I still dont see how so many of you thought just because nada 3-1'ed savior on favored tvz maps that he deserved to be over bisu. When bisu 3-0'ED savior on pretty balanced maps. And 3-0'ED Nal_ra. The bisu vs casy game is pretty irrevelant id say. Clearly if he can beat nada that game was just a fluke. Id say Bisu #1 next month and its a throwup between nada and savior for #2 probably savior though.
Edit: basically hot bid and the rdgrshfi w.e guy knows what they're talking about. Mynock is clearly a biased nada fan. If you put nada and savior up on a really balanced map like luna or rush hour 3 or something of that sort and they played 100 games savior would probably win 75 or more.
Should I put it in my signature that I'm a NaDa fan? Or maybe I shouldn't, people always seem so genuinely happy when they make that discovery, it's like they finally figured me out. I won't rob you of your pleasure then.
I was somewhat disappointed in NaDa's decisions in those games, but still, what I wanted to see happened, and it happened in such a great form: NaDa vs Bisu was an absolute classic.
However I don't understand what you're basing your opinions on? The 2 games we saw them play vs random opponents? They sure were indicative, but not so much. SaviOr can do a lot better than that, especially if he prepares vs a specific opponent on specific maps. I think this randomness doesn't bother NaDa so much, but maybe I'm wrong.
But please, you ask how it was possible for some ppl to think NaDa should be tied with sAviOr for 1st place? Well have you seen the game Bisu vs NaDa? If you have I'm sure you'd agree that that game was CLOSE. And both players showed some EXTREME skills. So that's why. If 1 hilariously close and insanely interesting game is enough for you to judge... then your judgment is shallow. Besides, Bisu essentially won the game because of NaDa's mistake, unlike in his game vs sAviOr, where he won because he played his cards very very well.
As for sAviOr, I'm sure we'll see him recuperated soon. People nowadays play him specifically in a style that beats him, and that was to be expected after he pulled the same trick so many times. He'll do fine, it's not like the OSL win is going to kill him.
If you put nada and savior up on a really balanced map like luna or rush hour 3 or something of that sort and they played 100 games savior would probably win 75 or more.
And you base that on... absolutely nothing? Yeah, let's put them on Luna, that will show their real skills. What the hell are you talking about...
Oh, and one final thing to note:
Edit: basically hot bid and the rdgrshfi w.e guy knows what they're talking about. Mynock is clearly a biased nada fan.
On March 23 2007 20:50 Mynock wrote:
Anyway, I have no idea about balance so far (I don't trust anybody's word if they say they do, either), so I'm really expecting some mixed and exciting results on 31st.
Ooops? GG no re with reps, sry.
-Mynock
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