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jordancurk
United States52 Posts
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Avean
Norway449 Posts
Looking at Hanzo examples is what you should try and aim for. Those look professional and like a GUI. There is a lot of thoughts and effort into those. | ||
Draftrabbit
United Kingdom22 Posts
On November 26 2012 23:24 Existor wrote: Why? That tool allows to use all those overlays not only for stream, but also for ingame too. Meaning that you can see YOUR overlay too, not only stream viewers. This program just places picture over all windows. Any picture, including your overlays or any other. You posted some skins, I've posted a tool, that allows to use your and other skins more variety. I just made suggestion to draw something nice instead placing one-textured things, that aren't really nice. Look at many deviantArt works, they're not mine, but they're epic and great. You should try draw something cool too instead doing boring one-textured interfaces. Now default ingame UI looks better than your skins. Look above what people can do and try to reach their skills I'm pretty sure the target audience I have is not going to pay for an overlay, the home grown streamer whos getting maybe 12 viewers and wants an overlay is the person I'm trying to help, if you dont like My stream overlays and my attempt to help people you need not return to the thread. As for the Hanzo, as far as I am aware he is rather well paid for his services, in respects to his art he is very very skilled, but lets face it I am not an artist I am simply trying to help the typical non 100000 viewer streamer. Yes they could use your software but you have your own thread for that, If i wanted to show case your work, or what you could do with expertise in art I would have previously done so, however Like I say these are simply to help someone who wants to create one on their own, with a relatively novice skillset. On November 26 2012 23:34 Avean wrote: I think you really should work more with Photoshop since what you have done here is taking an overlay then added a pattern and colors to it, that's it. No artistic approach whatever. Even with your patterns you have made them way to big for it to look like a texture. So yeah, those examples you posted here were pretty awful I have to say But you haven't worked many minutes on them either so. Looking at Hanzo examples is what you should try and aim for. Those look professional and like a GUI. There is a lot of thoughts and effort into those. Like I say Hanzo is an artist. I am not All i was trying to do was give a template and some incentive for small viewer streamers to be able to have a overlay without having to put in the hundreds of hours that are required for something like Hanzo's works, I never once attempted to make them look professional. As for thought My idea was to help, clearly this was the wrong approach. | ||
Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
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SC_RainbowDash
Denmark33 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
if you dont like My stream overlays and my attempt to help people you need not return to the thread I never said that your overlays are bad. It was a suggestion, that you should improve your skills a bit, and do something cooler than simple pattern. | ||
Draftrabbit
United Kingdom22 Posts
On November 26 2012 23:52 Existor wrote: I never said that your overlays are bad. It was a suggestion, that you should improve your skills a bit, and do something cooler than simple pattern. Actually you repeatedly said they were bad, completely irrelevant mind you. I didn't think trying to help the small time streamer would cause so much grief. Honestly If I had the artistic skills Hanzo does I could do what he does, sadly I don't have an fine arts degree, If it was wrong to try and help people who aren't the most artistic or don't want to pay someone for an overlay then yeah fine. | ||
Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
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Draftrabbit
United Kingdom22 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:38 Existor wrote: Well, sorry for that. What about paying for overlays, I think they should be free, just with some link or copyrights to original author Hanzo Does freelance work it costs money | ||
Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:04 Draftrabbit wrote: Actually you repeatedly said they were bad, completely irrelevant mind you. I didn't think trying to help the small time streamer would cause so much grief. Honestly If I had the artistic skills Hanzo does I could do what he does, sadly I don't have an fine arts degree, If it was wrong to try and help people who aren't the most artistic or don't want to pay someone for an overlay then yeah fine. No one is questioning your intentions. The problem is, anyone with rudimentary Photoshop skills could have made those skins; all they needed was the template. We appreciate that you put in the time to create these, but the result isn't really anything anyone would realistically use because frankly, they are really just a single texture put on repeat and then on overlay over the templates, plus some text and images thrown in. It would be different if you said, "here are some skins. I want to learn more Photoshop because I know they're not the best, and I'm open to trying to help create skins for the community if you ask me what you want, and I'll try my best to give you that." This would make your entire post goodwill, and show that you're humble too. Because a lot of people, myself included, don't understand why you're trying to hard to defend your skins when we don't think they're good. Instead, you posted this and now you give off the impression that the community owes you their gratitude. Some people will definitely be happy with them, and that should encourage you to do better. But please realize first of all your skins aren't that good, even if they're free. And the other way, just because they're free doesn't mean you're entitled to all praise and no criticism. Existor's images should have let you see what kind of templates people actually enjoy using, and you should try to work towards those. Just try not to give off an air of, "these are the best you can get for free so suck it up," while you're improving your Photoshop skills. :/ Also, it should only take 10 or so hours to create something like Hanzo makes (idk who that is), if you discount the design and thought process behind it. 100 hours is pushing it way out there, while yours could've been done in less than 10 minutes. It would be nice to see a design on top of the overlay, instead of just having a texture fill. | ||
fearpLug
Germany153 Posts
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Draftrabbit
United Kingdom22 Posts
On November 27 2012 00:53 Blisse wrote: No one is questioning your intentions. The problem is, anyone with rudimentary Photoshop skills could have made those skins; all they needed was the template. We appreciate that you put in the time to create these, but the result isn't really anything anyone would realistically use because frankly, they are really just a single texture put on repeat and then on overlay over the templates, plus some text and images thrown in. It would be different if you said, "here are some skins. I want to learn more Photoshop because I know they're not the best, and I'm open to trying to help create skins for the community if you ask me what you want, and I'll try my best to give you that." This would make your entire post goodwill, and show that you're humble too. Because a lot of people, myself included, don't understand why you're trying to hard to defend your skins when we don't think they're good. Instead, you posted this and now you give off the impression that the community owes you their gratitude. Some people will definitely be happy with them, and that should encourage you to do better. But please realize first of all your skins aren't that good, even if they're free. And the other way, just because they're free doesn't mean you're entitled to all praise and no criticism. Existor's images should have let you see what kind of templates people actually enjoy using, and you should try to work towards those. Just try not to give off an air of, "these are the best you can get for free so suck it up," while you're improving your Photoshop skills. :/ Also, it should only take 10 or so hours to create something like Hanzo makes (idk who that is), if you discount the design and thought process behind it. 100 hours is pushing it way out there, while yours could've been done in less than 10 minutes. It would be nice to see a design on top of the overlay, instead of just having a texture fill. No one is questioning your intentions. The problem is, anyone with rudimentary Photoshop skills could have made those skins; all they needed was the template. We appreciate that you put in the time to create these, but the result isn't really anything anyone would realistically use because frankly, they are really just a single texture put on repeat and then on overlay over the templates, plus some text and images thrown in. <- literally the things I made with the template were made this this exact purpose, anyone could make one. that was the idea. I said 100 hours because the required learning would encomplise this time. and no i agree they are not the best, they were not designed to be the best i probably would have spent more than 15 minutes on them if I wanted them to be the best they could be. The example i gave as poor as they are were just that example of stuff you could do if like me you are not the best at photoshop. Since posting this I've received 41 PM's so i must be doing something right. My art skills could use vast improvement, however I simply don't have the skills outside of webdesign and robotics to add art to my lists. | ||
Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On November 27 2012 01:24 Draftrabbit wrote: Since posting this I've received 41 PM's so i must be doing something right. No. This is the problem. You're using the idea that just because people want your help that it means you're doing something right. Yes, you're doing something right by providing a service to the community. No, you're doing something wrong because you're using the excuse that you don't have the time to justify putting out bad content. If your main objective was to help, when people give you criticism, your first response wouldn't be to defend what you've done by saying, "I didn't have the time to do better, and I can't be assed to put in more effort." That's the impression you constantly give out by saying things like, and no i agree they are not the best, they were not designed to be the best i probably would have spent more than 15 minutes on them if I wanted them to be the best they could be. The example i gave as poor as they are were just that example of stuff you could do if like me you are not the best at photoshop. I never once attempted to make them look professional. If you're going to do it, try your fricking best at doing it!!! instead of half-assing it (or giving off the impression that you're half-assing it). Stop giving excuses like I don't have the skill to do a respectable job. Like I said above, if you're going to not care about the quality of what you're producing, at least say that you understand you're not the best, but you're going to try really hard to help people out, and then actually try hard, instead of going, this is what I got, take it or leave it. | ||
Draftrabbit
United Kingdom22 Posts
On November 27 2012 01:46 Blisse wrote: No. This is the problem. You're using the idea that just because people want your help that it means you're doing something right. Yes, you're doing something right by providing a service to the community. No, you're doing something wrong because you're using the excuse that you don't have the time to justify putting out bad content. If your main objective was to help, when people give you criticism, your first response wouldn't be to defend what you've done by saying, "I didn't have the time to do better, and I can't be assed to put in more effort." That's the impression you constantly give out by saying things like, If you're going to do it, try your fricking best at doing it!!! instead of half-assing it (or giving off the impression that you're half-assing it). Stop giving excuses like I don't have the skill to do a respectable job. Like I said above, if you're going to not care about the quality of what you're producing, at least say that you understand you're not the best, but you're going to try really hard to help people out, and then actually try hard, instead of going, this is what I got, take it or leave it. I think you've read too far into this, example are example and thats all. there are not for use unless your desperate. Working with other people is far easier than messing about for shits and giggles. Then again I did do a respectable job for the people i have made overlays for because they like them and thats all i care about. | ||
Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On November 26 2012 21:12 aike wrote: I made a lulzy one that I wont actually use but it was still fun to make I will use a different and better one once I get it made for hots, since HotS has a slightly different UI than WoL I'll have to modify this template a bit first. Here's my lulzy one Aaawwwhhhh this one is so cute...gotta love those zerglings :D | ||
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