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Canada16217 Posts
On October 17 2012 23:21 trwkling wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 23:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:On October 17 2012 23:18 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
MMA showing dat disrespect to Boxer. The only justification would have been if Boxer/Jessica embezzled the money....which I honestly have a seriously hard time believing..... Considering the players/coah agreed, It's not hard to believe. could it be because the accounts were mixed? jessica said boxer used a lot of his own money (and jessica's) to build the team maybe they didn't have a very clear separation of accounts so they pooled the money in for themselves as well as the team, and so manager j used that to... whoever's advantage?
It's possible but, this is only from jessia's perspective i think? If so we need to hear the other sides(probably won't happen) of the story.
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i really doubt jessica is here to blame since its her and boxers money, maybe she had good intentions but miscommunication. Agree on the fact that this manager J might be a source for problems
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noooo please  (
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the whole son of boxer thing MMA had just went down the shitter :/
Sad that their relationship soured to the point that Boxer considered MMA "a cancer to the team". I remember them at MLG Anaheim D:
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On October 17 2012 23:21 trwkling wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 23:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:On October 17 2012 23:18 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
MMA showing dat disrespect to Boxer. The only justification would have been if Boxer/Jessica embezzled the money....which I honestly have a seriously hard time believing..... Considering the players/coah agreed, It's not hard to believe. could it be because the accounts were mixed? jessica said boxer used a lot of his own money (and jessica's) to build the team maybe they didn't have a very clear separation of accounts so they pooled the money in for themselves as well as the team, and so manager j used that to... whoever's advantage?
That's no way of running a business... or stuff like this happens.
It's hard to expect people to act professionally when there is no professional structure.
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On October 17 2012 23:24 SupLilSon wrote:
One thing I don't get is what was the motivation behind Manager J's actions? Was he colluding with ESF teams/SC2con to undermine SlayerS and bring the players into a new team that would join ESF? Otherwise I don't see why he'd purposely sever potentially lucrative sponsorships when SlayerS was a relatively successful team.
fame-seeking? he did want to create a new team. maybe he wanted to use slayers fame to earn some more ££ and not settle for a manager
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On October 17 2012 23:09 ranjutan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 23:01 Conti wrote:On October 17 2012 22:53 frequency wrote:Next part: - But.. I was told by others that he is streaming and looking for a foreign team. So I asked him why he had to lie and what his unprofessional attitutes are for. I asked him if he knew why MMA wanted to leave the team. He answered 'it's because of me - when I told MMA that I want to move to another team because of the team atmosphere, MMA wanted to join me'. I asked MMA whether it was true and he denied. Other parts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041¤tpage=8#156 Huh. In the other parts, didn't Jessica basically say that MMA wanted to form a new team and steal Slayers' players or something? This makes it sound like MMA simply wanted to go wherever Crank wanted to go. Big difference. To be honest, I get a bad vibe about Jessica from the translations done her (thank you so much for the translation, by the way), but I can't quite put my finger on it why. Weird. No. She said that some former manager J offered to Slayers players to join a new team that he would form and get sponsored, and MMA agreed. This seems to be a separate incident, as manager J's team never materialized and he was probably out of the picture by this point (of MMA's demotion). Perhaps you're getting some of this bad vibe because you are not remembering correctly.
Actually, I think it's more because Jessica comes off as quite confrontational even in her own words. Even after reading it all again I don't see why she had to demote MMA instead of working things out with him. He was obviously unhappy to begin with, demoting him surely didn't help in that regard. On top of that, according to the post, the players, other managers, other teams and other team's managers are all at fault, one way or another. It's hard to believe that it's as simple as "Everyone is evil but me".
Be that as it may. R.I.P. Slayers.
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Wow. This is so, so, so sad to read. Everything about this just seems wrong.
I'm really astonished.
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On October 17 2012 23:18 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
MMA showing dat disrespect to Boxer. The only justification would have been if Boxer/Jessica embezzled the money....which I honestly have a seriously hard time believing.....
Or if they were doing a shitty job managing a team, which it sounds like they were, unfortunately.
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R.I.P Slayers. I'll only remember the good memories not the bad ones.
MMA still my favorite player. I remember watching him beat MVP at Blizzcon and the crowd chanting his name.
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On October 17 2012 23:23 CoR wrote:coca and puzzle left sc2 full ? OH NO
I know, this is the worst news.
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Since SlayerS technically does not exist anymore does this mean Kespa teams can pick these players up?
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MMA and Crank showing that disrespect to Boxer.
Disappointed in them.
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On October 17 2012 23:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
the whole son of boxer thing MMA had just went down the shitter :/
Sad that their relationship soured to the point that Boxer considered MMA "a cancer to the team". I remember them at MLG Anaheim D:
Actually, this could make a great storyline. Boxer vs MMA showmatch Bo9 please, followed by an actual MMA fight. Like chess boxing!
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Canada16217 Posts
On October 17 2012 23:25 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 23:09 ranjutan wrote:On October 17 2012 23:01 Conti wrote:On October 17 2012 22:53 frequency wrote:Next part: - But.. I was told by others that he is streaming and looking for a foreign team. So I asked him why he had to lie and what his unprofessional attitutes are for. I asked him if he knew why MMA wanted to leave the team. He answered 'it's because of me - when I told MMA that I want to move to another team because of the team atmosphere, MMA wanted to join me'. I asked MMA whether it was true and he denied. Other parts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041¤tpage=8#156 Huh. In the other parts, didn't Jessica basically say that MMA wanted to form a new team and steal Slayers' players or something? This makes it sound like MMA simply wanted to go wherever Crank wanted to go. Big difference. To be honest, I get a bad vibe about Jessica from the translations done her (thank you so much for the translation, by the way), but I can't quite put my finger on it why. Weird. No. She said that some former manager J offered to Slayers players to join a new team that he would form and get sponsored, and MMA agreed. This seems to be a separate incident, as manager J's team never materialized and he was probably out of the picture by this point (of MMA's demotion). Perhaps you're getting some of this bad vibe because you are not remembering correctly. Actually, I think it's more because Jessica comes off as quite confrontational even in her own words. Even after reading it all again I don't see why she had to demote MMA instead of working things out with him. He was obviously unhappy to begin with, demoting him surely didn't help in that regard. On top of that, according to the post, the players, other managers, other teams and other team's managers are all at fault, one way or another. It's hard to believe that it's as simple as "Everyone is evil but me". Be that as it may. R.I.P. Slayers.
Exactly right on point.
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So Puzzle/Min/Coca won't be in the SC2 scene anymore ?? omg
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Turkey1127 Posts
seems like we gave too much shit to jessica.
well now I'm glad boxer left the team then. even more glad it disbanded.
slayers still have some great players, I hope some other team woudl pick them up.
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On October 17 2012 23:27 mikedebo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 23:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
the whole son of boxer thing MMA had just went down the shitter :/
Sad that their relationship soured to the point that Boxer considered MMA "a cancer to the team". I remember them at MLG Anaheim D: Actually, this could make a great storyline. Boxer vs MMA showmatch Bo9 please, followed by an actual MMA fight. Like chess boxing!
Obiwan vs Anakin :o
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On October 17 2012 23:21 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 23:19 Goldfish wrote:
The talk about federation not listening to both sides of the story sounds right.
Remember the Coach Lee incident?
Take note this was the old eSports Federation rather than the new one.
I can see the NASL stuff and the other fiascos that happened between ESF and Slayers being true easily (the Coach Lee incident is the more famous and known one that was ESF's wrongdoing). It's called SC2con, not "the old esf".
Ahh, oh yeah. Though, it seems they're referring to SC2con as ESF (at least in the translation).
As far as I remember, the NASL incident happened with SC2 con rather than ESF (ESF came after the NASL incident right?).
Though to be fair, I really forgot >.<.
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