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If I remember correctly, every single TvT Meching player has lost in the final round of Code A.
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Poll: Rate GhostKing vs. TheStC Game 1★★★★ (10) 59% ★★★ (5) 29% ★★★★★ (2) 12% ★★ (0) 0% ★ (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Rate GhostKing vs. TheStC Game 1 (Vote): ★★★★★ (Vote): ★★★★ (Vote): ★★★ (Vote): ★★ (Vote): ★
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Really enjoy watching TvT, both players are impressing me
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Sad to see former oGs-players slowly falling apart =(
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lol, byun slapping himself :p
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Go for 6-0 in Code A byun! (Some comeback that would be)
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BYUN!!! Great multi-tasking and Bio control gets him a victory in game 1.
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On May 17 2012 21:29 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 21:25 KristofferAG wrote:On May 17 2012 21:21 KristofferAG wrote:On May 17 2012 21:18 KristofferAG wrote:ByunPrime v TheStC 0 - 0Maps:Dual SightDaybreakCloud Kingdom05.00ByunPrime is spawning as the red Terran in the 2 o'clock position. TheStC is spawning as the blue Terran in the 8 o'clock position. Both players walling off with Rax on 12. Refinery next for Byun. CC first for StC, hiding it in the main. Factory next for Byun. StC taking two gas. Reactor on the Barracks for Byun, single Hellion in production. Factory up for StC. Starport next for Byun. Reactor on Barracks next to Factory for StC. 10.00 Medivac on the way for Byun. Starport on the waty for StC.
Byun moving out with Hellions and Marines. StC tries to land CC but is denied. Viking on the way for StC and Byun.
Byun takes out a Supply Depot Byun keeps pushing in, Medivac falls but he keeps up the pressure and makes it into the main. Takes out the Reactor on the Factory. Landed viking for StC holds it off, but just barely.
Byun gets a CC and two more Rax behind this. Another Viking comes out and lands, along with a Marauder it pushes Byun back. 11 SCVs killed.
Byun taking another gas in his main. New Factory on the way for StC.
StC landing factory on a tech lab. Byun still keeping StC contained while taking an expansion.
15.00 StC getting Blue flame and going tanks + hellions. Stim on the way for Byun.
StC finally taking natural and both gas. Byun taking a single gas on his natural.
Combat Shields started for Byun, taking second gas on natural. Siege tech and +1 attack on the way for Byun, getting a third CC. StC getting siege tech.
Concussive Shells started by Byun. Byun is moving towards StC's base
Byun tries to push into the natural of StC, StC's siege tech not finished. Byun doesn't want to push in against the large army of StC.
Siege tech finishes and Byun pulls back. Another rax added on for Byun, gettin +1 armor.
20.00 StC now pushing out, Vikings taking out a medivac and forcing Byun to pull back. StC pushes Byun back to his natural.
Vikings camp the Starport taking out all Medivacs. StC tries to push in, Byun sends a party to deny reinforcements. Vikings give vision to high ground, StC able to shell the Starport in the main.
Byun tries to break it, but he's not able to do even with a flank. The siege tanks shell him easily. StC keeps his containt, Byun still on three base and Stc on ly on two.
Byun once again sending out a small party to stop reinforcements. StC is lifting off his main CC to take a third.
25.00 StC finally gets to send reinforcements in. Byun adding on Barracks on his third.
Byun scouts the third of StC. StC unsieges, and Byun takes a risk, running in with some SCVs and multiple marauders. He manages to break the contain, but loses many SCVs.
Byun pushes further down and goes for the third of StC. Takes out the defending siege tanks and forces a liftoff, but more reinforcing siege tanks come in and deny the attack.
Byun has twice the workers of StC. Byun taking a fourth in the top left.
Small party of Marauders pushes towards the natural of StC forcin ghim to pull his army back. In the meantim Byun sends his main army to the third, takes out the defending Tanks, and goes for the CC. GG is called.
Byun takes the lead 1-0!
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On May 17 2012 21:32 milesfacade wrote: Go for 6-0 in Code A byun! (Some comeback that would be)
That would quite the storyline for sure :D
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On May 17 2012 21:25 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 21:22 Ghanburighan wrote:On May 17 2012 21:18 Dodgin wrote:On May 17 2012 21:17 SiroKO wrote:On May 17 2012 21:14 Dodgin wrote:On May 17 2012 21:14 SiroKO wrote:On May 17 2012 21:09 Horseballs wrote:On May 17 2012 21:07 Tsubbi wrote:On May 17 2012 21:04 4Servy wrote: they should just un nerf ghosts to deal with this lategame imbalance of zerg, mu fixed. yes because gas first hellions with 5 scv pull doing no damage shouldnt put you behind at all what is this terran crap whining lately anyways? almost every major tournament this year was won by terrans and there are gonna be 50% terrans in code s next season too That opening putting MKP behind is completely irrelevant twenty minutes later when he is maxed and has a sick economy and macro in full swing. MKP still did a mistake, he could have made starports when he was floating high in gaz/minerals. But the fact is, Yugioh messed up much more and quite horribly the whole game and still ended up winning. Now bad Zerg players will end up in code S due to Blizzard affirmative action, is that a good thing ? This is almost a philosophical question... Would you rather see good protoss terran tearing it up but only 3 MU, or bad Zerg players but more diversity in the MU... one mistake = bad player yeahhhh okay, no credit for the rest of the series? He made tons of mistakes. Losing bases to drop when you're floating high in minerals (thus could make a lot of spinecrawlers) as long as having 20 infestors means not being at the code S level. this is such a dumb way to look at things, you can only do so many things at once in a game like that. I'm sure I could point out a bunch of stuff MKP did wrong too, I guess he's even worse. Whenever anyone says that, you know they do not have any examples as evidence. how about when he let his CC burn down even though it was taking no damage for 30 seconds
Is that the best you can do? Bunch of stuff and you point out that he didn't see his orbital burning? I know I'm going to get a ton of people explain why MKP lost (and I can also give an account of why he lost) but I'm pointing out your arrogant statement. Criticizing someone's play is fine, CLAIMING he is bad but not backing up one's statements is basically just flaming.
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On May 17 2012 21:30 Yello wrote:He moved in some units and they were shot by unsieged tanks. So he moved in his whole army.
Oh. Feel a bit foolish now, tabbing in and of gomtv [/diablo3]
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Wow, just saw the results. What hapenned to MKP
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On May 17 2012 21:31 Tehs Tehklz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 21:23 FakeDeath wrote:On May 17 2012 21:20 Tehs Tehklz wrote: People keep saying how awesome those last two matches were, but they were both basically just Yugioh chain fungal-ing everything and fungal growth is just so lame. I mean, it is a spell specifically designed to remove micro and lower the cost effectiveness that Terran gains from good control because Blizzard did not give Zerg the same potential. The problem is that without it, Zerg would be weak to the point of being broken...again. It is the same issue with Warpgate necessitating weak Gateway units. Sure, you end up with a fairly balanced game, but it is done in the stupidest way possible. Did you even watch Game 2 and Game 3? Yeah, man. Did you? Artosis even kept talking about how important fungals were. He mentioned it probably 10 times, haha. Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 21:24 LittLeD wrote:On May 17 2012 21:20 Tehs Tehklz wrote: People keep saying how awesome those last two matches were, but they were both basically just Yugioh chain fungal-ing everything and fungal growth is just so lame. I mean, it is a spell specifically designed to remove micro and lower the cost effectiveness that Terran gains from good control because Blizzard did not give Zerg the same potential. The problem is that without it, Zerg would be weak to the point of being broken...again. It is the same issue with Warpgate necessitating weak Gateway units. Sure, you end up with a fairly balanced game, but it is done in the stupidest way possible. However one feels about the balance of late game ZvT (I personally think its near-perfectly balanced), you should be able to appriciate the extreme precision of the multi-tasking, stress management, micro, macro, positioning...everything, that went on in that last game. Just suberb from both parts really. I think it is pretty balanced, too, I just think the manner in which that balance is achieved is very lame. Terran gains an incredible amount of cost effectiveness from controlling their units well. Instead of giving Zerg the same opportunities to showcase good control, Blizzard gives them a spell that takes that opportunity away from the Terran player. That is about as backwards an idea as I can imagine. Brood War TvZ with defilers & lurkers against science vessels & bio is a good example of control vs control as opposed to SC2's control vs control-prevention. You know what I mean?
Well said. You describe the biggest problem in SC2
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On May 17 2012 21:32 Ktk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 21:30 Yello wrote:On May 17 2012 21:30 Ktk wrote: HOW DID BYUN KNOW THAT STC WAS UNSIEGED??? He moved in some units and they were shot by unsieged tanks. So he moved in his whole army. Oh. Feel a bit foolish now, tabbing in and of gomtv [/diablo3] That's where dual monitors come in
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I should have lunch after this.
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On May 17 2012 21:33 torm3ntin wrote:Wow, just saw the results. What hapenned to MKP
He lost one of the most epic Bo3's in GSL history. Must watch vods
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Come ooon StC, save my LB pride :<
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On May 17 2012 21:33 KristofferAG wrote: I should have lunch after this.
Sounds like a good idea. If this games go any longer I will probably starve.
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byun plays so well, but i hope Stc would win this ...
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On May 17 2012 21:32 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 21:25 Dodgin wrote:On May 17 2012 21:22 Ghanburighan wrote:On May 17 2012 21:18 Dodgin wrote:On May 17 2012 21:17 SiroKO wrote:On May 17 2012 21:14 Dodgin wrote:On May 17 2012 21:14 SiroKO wrote:On May 17 2012 21:09 Horseballs wrote:On May 17 2012 21:07 Tsubbi wrote:On May 17 2012 21:04 4Servy wrote: they should just un nerf ghosts to deal with this lategame imbalance of zerg, mu fixed. yes because gas first hellions with 5 scv pull doing no damage shouldnt put you behind at all what is this terran crap whining lately anyways? almost every major tournament this year was won by terrans and there are gonna be 50% terrans in code s next season too That opening putting MKP behind is completely irrelevant twenty minutes later when he is maxed and has a sick economy and macro in full swing. MKP still did a mistake, he could have made starports when he was floating high in gaz/minerals. But the fact is, Yugioh messed up much more and quite horribly the whole game and still ended up winning. Now bad Zerg players will end up in code S due to Blizzard affirmative action, is that a good thing ? This is almost a philosophical question... Would you rather see good protoss terran tearing it up but only 3 MU, or bad Zerg players but more diversity in the MU... one mistake = bad player yeahhhh okay, no credit for the rest of the series? He made tons of mistakes. Losing bases to drop when you're floating high in minerals (thus could make a lot of spinecrawlers) as long as having 20 infestors means not being at the code S level. this is such a dumb way to look at things, you can only do so many things at once in a game like that. I'm sure I could point out a bunch of stuff MKP did wrong too, I guess he's even worse. Whenever anyone says that, you know they do not have any examples as evidence. how about when he let his CC burn down even though it was taking no damage for 30 seconds Is that the best you can do? Bunch of stuff and you point out that he didn't see his orbital burning? I know I'm going to get a ton of people explain why MKP lost (and I can also give an account of why he lost) but I'm pointing out your arrogant statement. Criticizing someone's play is fine, CLAIMING he is bad but not backing up one's statements is basically just flaming. When he said he was bad he was being sarcastic, as a rebuttle to someone saying Yugioh was a bad player. He was simply stating MKP worse than Yugioh in that series.
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