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On January 06 2012 07:50 Simplistik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 07:41 George_the_man wrote:no wai we gonna see Action vs Bisu on Outlier... KT will try to snipe Bisu with PvP instead of feeding him with Z, SKT wont send Bisu on Outlier , he played too often there, most likely they will send Soo to snipe P whos trying to snipe Bisu, but as i said before hope for KT coach to outsmart that and send CH to snipe Z whos trying to snipe P who was trying to snipe Bisu .. YO so imo ZvZ on Outlier whats gonna happen If SK want to snipe a PvP sniper, then they wouldn't send soO. S2 or Hyuk seems much more likely.
i dunno about that ..despite what stats say i think Soo is the strongest ZvPer in SKT, hes rank 8 and SKT fielded him vs Stats few times i dont think that was by accident
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On January 06 2012 03:30 kamikami wrote: There is no glory for OP team if they win against SKT since they are OP after all, but there is much glory for SKT to defeat and humiliate them haha. Ranked 1st power rank at the start of this season, champion last 2 seasons, buy OP players, rely on OP race, but cannot claim 1st place actually, that shows how bad they are as a team ^^. SKT was only ranked 4th in power at the start of the season, but look at where we are now, that shows how good we are despite not being OP. Go go SKT 3-0 KT !!!
Rarely have I ever seen this much nonsense in one post. I don't even know where to begin telling you how wrong you are.
#1 SKT has always been a team with very good players and if anything, SKT could be regarded as an "OP Team". If KT hadn't performed so well in their last few matches, SKT would be the resounding favorite to win their upcoming clash.
#2 What "power rank" do you speak of? The only BW power rank I know of consists of players, not teams.
#3 This isn't football you know. KT has not "bought" any players for huge amounts of money or whatever weird scenario you are imagining. Basically they took players in that didn't have a team anymore and paid them a salary. On a side note, none of these players were "OP".
#4 Except Flash, KT doesn't have any "star players". Stats is doing exceptionally well at the moment, but that's about it. With the current Proleague format this is a serious disadvantage for KT.
#5 What "OP players" are you referring to? What "OP race" are you talking about? Comments like that are completely unnecessary.
#6 Your post is weird, confusing, incredibly biased and highly disrespectful. As far as I'm concerned this warrants a warning, at the very least.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
How is Stats doing exceptionally well not make him a star player?-.-.
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i hope bisu gets to play flash so that coach park would see the mistake he did last PL finals.LOL kim taek yong hwaiting!!!
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Should be an amazing series, can't wait to watch this! hope 3-2 SKT1 with FlaSh against Bisu/Best.
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Bisu vs Flash would be nice indeed.
And time for SKT to solidify its hold on first place once again.
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United States10328 Posts
Ah, the canonical matchup.
SKT's vZ seems to have suddenly gotten stronger (Bisu teaching them how to kill Zergs?), but it's going to be hard to take down Flash/Stats.
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On January 06 2012 01:57 sinistral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 01:29 TwoToneTerran wrote: oh look it's those guys we trashed in the finals two years in a row
hi
:D Why isn't your team in the first place now?
How did being first place work out for you guys last year?
Rolsters gonna roll.
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On January 06 2012 07:07 kamikami wrote: but they happened to buy more very strong players during last season and this season ( By the time they were bought, Action was top 5 zerg, Crazy-Hydra was in top form, Mind is a very strong Terran, Wooki is a very high-potential Protoss), so that makes them become OP. So your post only proves my point lol, wut...the...frack...holy shit...
None of any of this is true.
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Hoping for some epic action, going to game 5! Tons of sexy storyline going on, I'm just hoping its not disappointing.
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On January 06 2012 07:07 kamikami wrote:
"proleague ranking bears hardly any significance compared to finals" - Yes, they won the final, that's one reason they're OP. What's the point ?
the point is that you said that SKT is a good team because it raised from 4th place to 1st place whilst KT dropped from 1st place, thus KT is a bad team, and SKT is a good team. my point is that your point is bullshit, because this means nothing so long as SKT doesnt win the finals, whereas KT did win, twice in a row.
On January 06 2012 07:07 kamikami wrote:
"SKT was defeated by FLASH, STATS and HOEJJA, who were all home grown" - Yes, and so ? Even with home grown players they were already very strong, but they happened to buy more very strong players during last season and this season ( By the time they were bought, Action was top 5 zerg, Crazy-Hydra was in top form, Mind is a very strong Terran, Wooki is a very high-potential Protoss), so that makes them become OP. So your post only proves my point lol, wut...the...frack...holy shit...
action was a zerg who showed late game potential. crazy-hydra had one allkill. mind hasn't been good in 3 years. wooki is a rookie (admittedly with high potential). most of them had under 50% winrate during the time they were bought. so suddenly, buying a rookie, 2 up and coming players, a struggling veteran makes KT OP? do you even know what overpowered means? what is this biased bullshit.
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On January 06 2012 08:47 ]343[ wrote: Ah, the canonical matchup.
SKT's vZ seems to have suddenly gotten stronger (Bisu teaching them how to kill Zergs?), but it's going to be hard to take down Flash/Stats.
Only a math major :D
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Oh! This is already here, great!
Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk! Am i too late for the Hyuk train?
Damn Kiett is actually freaking me out, nobody should be able to do that, you make a deal with this guy perchance?! :o
I'm so horrendously confused what's ok to post nowadays, but since the equally scaringly talented NeverGG herself posted it i guess it's fine right? right!
meanwhile i'll sit here wailing my ineptitude ;_;
(so this is in a day? why isn't it today, grrrr)
On January 06 2012 08:27 Ermac wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 03:30 kamikami wrote: There is no glory for OP team if they win against SKT since they are OP after all, but there is much glory for SKT to defeat and humiliate them haha. Ranked 1st power rank at the start of this season, champion last 2 seasons, buy OP players, rely on OP race, but cannot claim 1st place actually, that shows how bad they are as a team ^^. SKT was only ranked 4th in power at the start of the season, but look at where we are now, that shows how good we are despite not being OP. Go go SKT 3-0 KT !!! + Show Spoiler +Rarely have I ever seen this much nonsense in one post. I don't even know where to begin telling you how wrong you are.
#1 SKT has always been a team with very good players and if anything, SKT could be regarded as an "OP Team". If KT hadn't performed so well in their last few matches, SKT would be the resounding favorite to win their upcoming clash.
#2 What "power rank" do you speak of? The only BW power rank I know of consists of players, not teams.
#3 This isn't football you know. KT has not "bought" any players for huge amounts of money or whatever weird scenario you are imagining. Basically they took players in that didn't have a team anymore and paid them a salary. On a side note, none of these players were "OP".
#4 Except Flash, KT doesn't have any "star players". Stats is doing exceptionally well at the moment, but that's about it. With the current Proleague format this is a serious disadvantage for KT.
#5 What "OP players" are you referring to? What "OP race" are you talking about? Comments like that are completely unnecessary. #6 Your post is weird, confusing, incredibly biased and highly disrespectful. As far as I'm concerned this warrants a warning, at the very least.
Nothing like some boiling blood before the big showdown! But since you brought up football, you know what happens to players who demand cards for other players eh? ;P ♥
also SKT and KT (i guess Khan too, does CJ actually pay a lot of many to hold on to all those kickass players?) kinda do salary-bully the smaller teams so while they surely don't CR7 (as in throw around 120mil$) their players, it's essentially the same thing. We're in it together bro's, showmethemoney!
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On January 06 2012 09:16 saltywet wrote:
the point is that you said that SKT is a good team because it raised from 4th place to 1st place whilst KT dropped from 1st place, thus KT is a bad team, and SKT is a good team. my point is that your point is bullshit, because this means nothing so long as SKT got silver twice in a row, whereas KT won gold twice in a row.
You got it wrong, what I said was about the pre-season "power ranking" that someone posted on TL before the season, in which KT is ranked 1st, and SKT ranked 4th. KT is a team that has more "power" but fail to use it to get the rank that they are expected to have, while SKT is a team that has less "power" but achieve greater than expected. Even if SKT only end up at 3rd and KT at 2rd, SKT is better since their expected ranking was 4th, while the one of KT was 1st.
On January 06 2012 09:16 saltywet wrote:
action was a zerg who showed late game potential. crazy-hydra had one allkill. mind hasn't been good in 3 years. wooki is a rookie (admittedly with high potential). most of them had under 50% winrate during the time they were bought. so suddenly, buying a rookie, 2 up and coming players, a struggling veteran makes KT OP? do you even know what overpowered means? what is this biased bullshit.
Action was ranked 5th Zerg in Kespa ranking when he was bought, Crazy-Hydra was bought right after he had an AK and many wins, Mind despite his lack of form is basically a very strong Terran, and ofcourse Wooki has great potential. The point is that with the "homegrown" line-up KT can beat CJ or SKT convincingly already, with the addition of these guys they become "OP". And even with "OP" status they fail to achieve what is expected of them (for now). Of course my post is biased because it's trash talk after all, but your post is no better lol.
@Ermac : I don't think personal attack is allowed here, so I won't reply to your post (which is a disguised personal attack).
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On January 06 2012 09:36 kamikami wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 09:16 saltywet wrote:
the point is that you said that SKT is a good team because it raised from 4th place to 1st place whilst KT dropped from 1st place, thus KT is a bad team, and SKT is a good team. my point is that your point is bullshit, because this means nothing so long as SKT got silver twice in a row, whereas KT won gold twice in a row.
You got it wrong, what I said was about the pre-season "power ranking" that someone posted on TL before the season, in which KT is ranked 1st, and SKT ranked 4th. KT is a team that has more "power" but fail to use it to get the rank that they are expected to have, while SKT is a team that has less "power" but achieve greater than expected. Even if SKT only end up at 3rd and KT at 2rd, SKT is better since their expected ranking was 4th, while the one of KT was 1st.
Ah i was wondering where you had that from, remember that now. I don't want to discredit someone, so if i'm wrong forgive me. As far as i remember that was pretty much somebody like you and me just posting his gut feeling there, no higher consensus.
Maybe i'm tainted by the numbers of people saying it, but i think just generally if you asked people who would come out on top if everybody performed, it would more be like CJ>SKT>T8/KT (personally i feel like T8 should be super strong but results wise KT should be there) and so on.
We may not have the strongest players individually (though Bisu and Fantasy can obviously swim with the best), but overall the team is super strong and our legacy precedes us, everything but a league gold is a failure for SKT man, as hard as it sounds! Gotta accept that KT clinched it from us and pounce back, best case already in this game!
(god i can't spell or use punctuation)
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A simple post:
Poll: How many bans will this thread create?1-3 (5) 45% 0 (3) 27% 10+ (2) 18% 4-6 (1) 9% 7-9 (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: How many bans will this thread create? (Vote): 0 (Vote): 1-3 (Vote): 4-6 (Vote): 7-9 (Vote): 10+
Blind can you add this into the hype post?
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On January 06 2012 09:53 sviatoslavrichter wrote:A simple post: + Show Spoiler +Poll: How many bans will this thread create?1-3 (5) 45% 0 (3) 27% 10+ (2) 18% 4-6 (1) 9% 7-9 (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: How many bans will this thread create? (Vote): 0 (Vote): 1-3 (Vote): 4-6 (Vote): 7-9 (Vote): 10+
Blind can you add this into the hype post?
Shush don't give people ideas, we don't need no bans in the BW section, make love not fanwar!
(if we get bisu - flash though, people will lose their shit, or action beats bisu or smth. weird)
I'm just going through the thread, is Sun matchfit again?
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On January 06 2012 09:36 kamikami wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 09:16 saltywet wrote:
the point is that you said that SKT is a good team because it raised from 4th place to 1st place whilst KT dropped from 1st place, thus KT is a bad team, and SKT is a good team. my point is that your point is bullshit, because this means nothing so long as SKT got silver twice in a row, whereas KT won gold twice in a row.
You got it wrong, what I said was about the pre-season "power ranking" that someone posted on TL before the season, in which KT is ranked 1st, and SKT ranked 4th. KT is a team that has more "power" but fail to use it to get the rank that they are expected to have, while SKT is a team that has less "power" but achieve greater than expected. Even if SKT only end up at 3rd and KT at 2rd, SKT is better since their expected ranking was 4th, while the one of KT was 1st. Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 09:16 saltywet wrote:
action was a zerg who showed late game potential. crazy-hydra had one allkill. mind hasn't been good in 3 years. wooki is a rookie (admittedly with high potential). most of them had under 50% winrate during the time they were bought. so suddenly, buying a rookie, 2 up and coming players, a struggling veteran makes KT OP? do you even know what overpowered means? what is this biased bullshit. Action was ranked 5th Zerg in Kespa ranking when he was bought, Crazy-Hydra was bought right after he had an AK and many wins, Mind despite his lack of form is basically a very strong Terran, and ofcourse Wooki has great potential. The point is that with the "homegrown" line-up KT can beat CJ or SKT convincingly already, with the addition of these guys they become "OP". And even with "OP" status they fail to achieve what is expected of them (for now). Of course my post is biased because it's trash talk after all, but your post is no better lol. @Ermac : I don't think personal attack is allowed here, so I won't reply to your post (which is a disguised personal attack).
What is this " POWER " you are talking about ? If you are talking about Flash , yes he is a talented player and his dominance is good , but that's only one player , however our protoss ,zerg and terran rookies are slowly coming up . On the other hand SKT 1 players are much more stronger in their matchup , Take Fantasy who has great vP , Bisu v Z , Best v T . That's already 3 games in skt1 hand's . So who has the greater power now ? -_-
On the acquisition of crazy hydra , KT made a deal with WJ star's even before CH made that ALL kill .We are not Op actually to tell you the truth we are the under dogs from the starting of time and recently only we have begun to rise up to the challenge and been playing really good games . So nope we are not over powered at all.
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On January 06 2012 10:02 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 09:36 kamikami wrote:On January 06 2012 09:16 saltywet wrote:
the point is that you said that SKT is a good team because it raised from 4th place to 1st place whilst KT dropped from 1st place, thus KT is a bad team, and SKT is a good team. my point is that your point is bullshit, because this means nothing so long as SKT got silver twice in a row, whereas KT won gold twice in a row.
You got it wrong, what I said was about the pre-season "power ranking" that someone posted on TL before the season, in which KT is ranked 1st, and SKT ranked 4th. KT is a team that has more "power" but fail to use it to get the rank that they are expected to have, while SKT is a team that has less "power" but achieve greater than expected. Even if SKT only end up at 3rd and KT at 2rd, SKT is better since their expected ranking was 4th, while the one of KT was 1st. On January 06 2012 09:16 saltywet wrote:
action was a zerg who showed late game potential. crazy-hydra had one allkill. mind hasn't been good in 3 years. wooki is a rookie (admittedly with high potential). most of them had under 50% winrate during the time they were bought. so suddenly, buying a rookie, 2 up and coming players, a struggling veteran makes KT OP? do you even know what overpowered means? what is this biased bullshit. Action was ranked 5th Zerg in Kespa ranking when he was bought, Crazy-Hydra was bought right after he had an AK and many wins, Mind despite his lack of form is basically a very strong Terran, and ofcourse Wooki has great potential. The point is that with the "homegrown" line-up KT can beat CJ or SKT convincingly already, with the addition of these guys they become "OP". And even with "OP" status they fail to achieve what is expected of them (for now). Of course my post is biased because it's trash talk after all, but your post is no better lol. @Ermac : I don't think personal attack is allowed here, so I won't reply to your post (which is a disguised personal attack). What is this " POWER " you are talking about ? + Show Spoiler +If you are talking about Flash , yes he is a talented player and his dominance is good , but that's only one player , however our protoss ,zerg and terran rookies are slowly coming up . On the other hand SKT 1 players are much more stronger in their matchup , Take Fantasy who has great vP , Bisu v Z , Best v T . That's already 3 games in skt1 hand's . So who has the greater power now ? -_-
On the acquisition of crazy hydra , KT made a deal with WJ star's even before CH made that ALL kill .We are not Op actually to tell you the truth we are the under dogs from the starting of time and recently only we have begun to rise up to the challenge and been playing really good games . So nope we are not over powered at all.
He is referencing this thread. Was a (not the^^) pre-season 'power' ranking.
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I can stand biased comments, but trash talk? Isn't trash talk a form of bm? I think most of us want to keep the ongoing discussions peaceful. Trash talk will only generate more hatred.
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