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On December 10 2011 16:50 annul wrote: and the OMGUS tunneling continues. who expected anything else?
Now that I'm confirmed town, link me all your contributions this game, your scumhunting efforts, your reads, your attempts at directing town well.
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Cool, and this means that I really AM bad after all! XD
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On December 10 2011 18:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Cool, and this means that I really AM bad after all! XD
Who would've thought?
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Hi, I've finally caught up with the thread.
Why has annul not been lynched yet?
On December 09 2011 10:34 annul wrote:
because if i shoot you that says nothing about me whatsoever? but if i give power to the most town person that has consensus, then theres a chance i kill one of your partners AND i survive the day
If you were so convinced on Palmar being scum, why didn't you just shoot him, or someone else you had a strong scum read on at the time? Shooting scum is the best thing you could have done in this situation.
You KNEW that whoever you shot would flip town, so you give the responsibility away to someone who's very likely to pick you a juicy town target. You didn't even hesitate to kill prphlz (who you've barely mentioned in your filter) when you saw the opportunity.
It blows my mind that you escaped the lynch yesterday.
##vote: Annul
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xsksc, get the fuck out.
Logic is forbidden in my thread.
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On December 10 2011 13:27 Zephirdd wrote: Well, it seems nobody else is online/caring atm.
So, analyzing it. The post says he was... strangled, poisoned, shot four times, beaten and THEN drowned. There is no kill like overkill heh
There was only one kill as well in contrast to the two from night 1. Unless someone claims to have been protected, I guess it's safe to assume that Rad was stacked; which means mafia really wanted him dead.
Look for cases he was pushing. If mafia wanted to kill someone with cred, they'd target Toads. If they stacked Radfield, they were scared of him, because he was making sense.
Of course, all of this is true only if Rad was stacked; if a medic tried to protect him, it's a good idea to claim that IMO(unless, ofc, you want to remain anonymous for now).
Bad news(for me) is that all my gut feelings were completely wrong and I can't trust myself anymore. Good news is that I'll be able to confirm Palmar's alignment. Palmar is town
I'll claim it. I am a Parity Cop, which means I can chose a person per night, and the result of my investigation will be "Same" or "Different", according to the investigation from the last night. Night 1, I get 'No Result'.
Night 1 I chose Palmar to investigate, as he would be my comparative to night 2. He is my strongest town read atm, so I assume it wwas a good idea. Night 2 I chose Radfield because I thought he was mafia, so a 'Different' would basically tell me he is mafia. Obviously, it is not the case; however, the investigation will provide me "Same" or "Different", which means I'll know the exact alignment of Palmar as we know that Refallen is green.
My investigation provided me "Same", therefore, Palmar is 100% town. I'd say that should clear any issues of "Palmar is scum" that any player may have yet. Palmar is our ally, and we can at least trust that he is playing for us.
If you have any doubts about this, please check my first post on the game, precisely the last line. I told you I'd find out who is enemy of who - alignments of players in relation of others.
Also, since Palmar is town, is it safe to assume that annul is scum? I am inclined to believe zeph's role claim. Palmar was a person of interest day 1, so it makes sense he was checked on night 1. Radfield was definitely conceivably the most town on day 2, so I follow zeph's logic using him as the baseline townie.
However, just because Palmar is town that doesn't mean annul is mafia. I think they are both town.
I am most suspicious of sandroba and jackal58, who haven't lived up to their billing as good players. My other 4 mafia would be Refallen (KJ's case), Erandorr (Toad's case), redFF (his behavior regarding Palmar on day 1, starting bandwagon then ditching it when it seemed Palmar would hang in order to deny culpability), and Lanaia (I feel like she for awhile was just Ctrl F "Lanaia"ing, playing purely defensively, not trying to scumhunt).
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Wow, okay, apparently Zephirdd was using Radfield as a mafia baseline. I am not going to assume that he is telling the truth about himself or Palmar. I just think it was weird that he used Radfield as mafia baseline.
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Just got home, truth, why do you still think I'm mafia?
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Refallen has made a ton of correct decisions, and no one is counter-claiming having saved me tonight, and I did get shot.
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How does a counter-claim of saving work when there are multiple medics? All medics come forward?
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On December 10 2011 20:04 Refallen wrote: Just got home, truth, why do you still think I'm mafia? Disregard me including you. I think we should focus our efforts on someone other than you for today.
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My only workable theory that has Refallen as mafia also probably needs both Palmar and zephirdd to be mafia as well, so I am actually now leaning towards Refallen as town.
Refallen claimed to have healed Palmar, Palmar claimed to be healed. Zeph insists Palmar is town. Honestly, probably all 3 of them are town.
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Someone visited me last night.
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for argument's sake and confirming both palmar / refallen. I protected sandroba last night so refallen has to be a medic.
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Another thing to consider is that considering how hard palmar has been pushing for annul's lynch, palmar being targeted last night makes it more likely that annul is mafia, as if he was town I would think mafia would have left palmar alive for the hope of getting a mis-lynch.
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I'm going to vote for annul as well. If he is town we should kill of the palmar club ( = everyone connected to palmar by claiming defending him or saying he is town), starting with palmar.
##vote annul
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On December 10 2011 22:41 hyshes wrote: I'm going to vote for annul as well. If he is town we should kill of the palmar club ( = everyone connected to palmar by claiming defending him or saying he is town), starting with palmar.
##vote annul
We shouldn't be lynching palmar is Annul flips town. There is too much facts confirming palmar as town now
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On December 10 2011 22:41 hyshes wrote: I'm going to vote for annul as well. If he is town we should kill of the palmar club ( = everyone connected to palmar by claiming defending him or saying he is town), starting with palmar.
##vote annul
that's so dumb I don't even know where to begin..
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On December 10 2011 21:50 Drazerk wrote: for argument's sake and confirming both palmar / refallen. I protected sandroba last night so refallen has to be a medic.
the fuck? Sandroba? I'm going to put this in caps to make sure you get what I'm talking about: SANDROBA? wtf was that supposed to do?
It's not a question of 3 medics but a question of 2 medics. Our now claimed medic said he did not (!) protect annul n1, therefore we have to have 2 medics if annul's claim is right. Drazerks medic claim is still bullshit and there is no way his claim is viable.
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