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On December 10 2011 13:27 Zephirdd wrote:
Well, it seems nobody else is online/caring atm.
So, analyzing it. The post says he was... strangled, poisoned, shot four times, beaten and THEN drowned.
There is no kill like overkill heh
There was only one kill as well in contrast to the two from night 1. Unless someone claims to have been protected, I guess it's safe to assume that Rad was stacked; which means mafia really wanted him dead.
Look for cases he was pushing. If mafia wanted to kill someone with cred, they'd target Toads. If they stacked Radfield, they were scared of him, because he was making sense.
Of course, all of this is true only if Rad was stacked; if a medic tried to protect him, it's a good idea to claim that IMO(unless, ofc, you want to remain anonymous for now).
Bad news(for me) is that all my gut feelings were completely wrong and I can't trust myself anymore.
Good news is that I'll be able to confirm Palmar's alignment. Palmar is town
I'll claim it. I am a Parity Cop, which means I can chose a person per night, and the result of my investigation will be "Same" or "Different", according to the investigation from the last night. Night 1, I get 'No Result'.
Night 1 I chose Palmar to investigate, as he would be my comparative to night 2. He is my strongest town read atm, so I assume it wwas a good idea.
Night 2 I chose Radfield because I thought he was mafia, so a 'Different' would basically tell me he is mafia. Obviously, it is not the case; however, the investigation will provide me "Same" or "Different", which means I'll know the exact alignment of Palmar as we know that Refallen is green.
My investigation provided me "Same", therefore, Palmar is 100% town.
I'd say that should clear any issues of "Palmar is scum" that any player may have yet. Palmar is our ally, and we can at least trust that he is playing for us.
If you have any doubts about this, please check my first post on the game, precisely the last line. I told you I'd find out who is enemy of who - alignments of players in relation of others.
Also, since Palmar is town, is it safe to assume that annul is scum?
Zeph, why should the medic who protected palmar claim?
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What?
I never said a medic protected palmar.
I never said Palmar was target even.
If anyone got shot, you can claim the shot by yourself without compromising the medic(like annul did day2)
If anything, a medic could claim to have protected Radfield to confirm my "stacking" theory, which would mean they were truly afraid of Radfield.
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I protected palmar last night and I protected drazerk on day one. I thought I should claim now as several people think I'm scummy.
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Ok....
Now that we have that thrown in the open suddenly...
Do you know if Palmar was attacked? Does your message of success/failure indicate that?
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On December 10 2011 14:15 Refallen wrote:
I protected palmar last night and I protected drazerk on day one. I thought I should claim now as several people think I'm scummy.
For future reference, I think you probably shouldn't have claimed unless you were starting to lead a vote count and it was looking like you would be the lynch.
At least this early in the game.
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Yes he was attacked, message indicates clearly that I protected him from a hit.
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okay so now that the breadcrumbed parity cop has a guarantee in palmar, he is essentially a regular DT now. so we have an outed DT and a two claimed medics in refallen and drazerk, we have v7 and myself who have certain night powers, and palmar with the double vote
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I thought that we needed to not waste time on discussing me today to get as much time as possible to lynch a scum and prevent a no-lynch like yesterday which will surely result in scum win. Also because I might not be free for this day round and might not contribute a lot.
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who protected you night 1, if not one of the 2 medics? a third, mystery medic?
i don't see the point in either of you claiming.
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On December 10 2011 12:55 Radfield wrote:
Upon rereading truthbringers filter, I think he is probably town. He has a lot of "scummy" comments, but I they are often over the top scummy, which leads me to believe they are red-herrings.
His general posting seems pretty decent.
I don't really understand... what is a red herring?
On December 10 2011 14:15 Refallen wrote:
I protected palmar last night and I protected drazerk on day one. I thought I should claim now as several people think I'm scummy.
I don't recall that many people thinking you're scummy. Might have been a little early to claim for you, hun.
Now that we know palmar is town (barring roles that can change how mafia appears), I'm not 100% sure how we should move forward. Should we be lynching annul even though it's not 100% that he's mafia? We don't know if there's a third medic.
The only reason I don't like the fact the parity doc claimed is because I feel he's probably a bit of a target now.
I wish radfield hadn't died. Presently my strongest townread.
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On December 10 2011 14:25 annul wrote:
okay so now that the breadcrumbed parity cop has a guarantee in palmar, he is essentially a regular DT now. so we have an outed DT and a two claimed medics in refallen and drazerk, we have v7 and myself who have certain night powers, and palmar with the double vote
yeah how are you alive.. draz?
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Sorry, got the feeling that people thought I was scum (kingjames, plus a few others who said they liked his case against me) and I thought it was better to claim early and avoid the shenanigans that happened yesterday.
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Why did I direct something at the dead guy. x.x
On December 10 2011 14:55 Refallen wrote:
Sorry, got the feeling that people thought I was scum (kingjames, plus a few others who said they liked his case against me) and I thought it was better to claim early and avoid the shenanigans that happened yesterday.
Don't be sorry. It would have happened sooner or later.
On December 10 2011 14:53 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 14:25 annul wrote:
okay so now that the breadcrumbed parity cop has a guarantee in palmar, he is essentially a regular DT now. so we have an outed DT and a two claimed medics in refallen and drazerk, we have v7 and myself who have certain night powers, and palmar with the double vote yeah how are you alive.. draz?
Draz and I have already gone over this. I think it was the beginning of night.
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On December 10 2011 15:03 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 14:53 Mattchew wrote:On December 10 2011 14:25 annul wrote:
okay so now that the breadcrumbed parity cop has a guarantee in palmar, he is essentially a regular DT now. so we have an outed DT and a two claimed medics in refallen and drazerk, we have v7 and myself who have certain night powers, and palmar with the double vote yeah how are you alive.. draz? Draz and I have already gone over this. I think it was the beginning of night.
Where? i cant see in your filter
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On December 10 2011 08:28 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 08:12 Lanaia wrote:On December 10 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:On December 10 2011 07:44 Lanaia wrote:On December 10 2011 07:35 Drazerk wrote:
Also have you guys noticed that both day vigi's have been told to consider / kill me but non of them have? yeah, I noticed that as well. What does it say about you, though, do you think? I think scum are trying to keep me alive for some reason. For the WIFOM, do you think, so they can get a mislynch on you? Yes very easily
Mattchew, this quote chain is mostly it.
I mean, it's obviously not every single possibility (he could technically be scum but I don't really think so right now).
Scum doesn't always kill PRs, you know....
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On December 10 2011 15:19 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 08:28 Drazerk wrote:On December 10 2011 08:12 Lanaia wrote:On December 10 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote:On December 10 2011 07:44 Lanaia wrote:On December 10 2011 07:35 Drazerk wrote:
Also have you guys noticed that both day vigi's have been told to consider / kill me but non of them have? yeah, I noticed that as well. What does it say about you, though, do you think? I think scum are trying to keep me alive for some reason. For the WIFOM, do you think, so they can get a mislynch on you? Yes very easily Mattchew, this quote chain is mostly it. I mean, it's obviously not every single possibility (he could technically be scum but I don't really think so right now). Scum doesn't always kill PRs, you know....
Um.. im talking about annul.. he claimed he was shot and protected.... i was saying that the only other medic was draz that could save him unless theres a 3rd medic
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OHHHHHHHHHH, I thought you were asking why draz was alive. My mistake.
Mattchew, who are your top 6 scumreads at this point in time, given it's a new day. I'm curious to see.
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On December 10 2011 14:24 Refallen wrote:
Yes he was attacked, message indicates clearly that I protected him from a hit.
hm... Palmar: can you confirm?
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yes.
I took a hit last night.
##Vote annul
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and the OMGUS tunneling continues. who expected anything else?
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