Edit: can a mod please change the title of this to MOUTH movements?? -_-
Weird mouth movements when playing
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Sm3agol
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Edit: can a mod please change the title of this to MOUTH movements?? -_- | ||
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solo starts around 4:20 or so Or you could do it like her, throw in a smoke screen hahaha so people won't notice that you have weird moth movements only during chord changes All in all, not playing like a robot and being free and more .. human like really pleases audiences a lot, I know I like to see a performer freely expressing himself rather than one who's stone cold. Unless you're a classical musician playing with an orchestra..... In which case no one will notice you anyways hahahaha Then again it can be a way to get everyone to notice you hahahahaha | ||
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On topic: grats on being a cello-baller, who gives a fuck what your mouth looks like. | ||
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On November 29 2011 12:38 ZoW wrote: I don't think its a problem, just natural expression. Everyone does it differently, in fact some of the best classical musicians look like they are having a stroke on stage when they play. If anything it just adds to the emotion of the piece you are performing, you shouldn't be so negative about it :p No...seriously, this isn't emotion, this looks like a fish gasping for air. I refuse to upload a video, lol. And thanks mr. mod for the title edit. I typed it very angrily. :-p | ||
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This is first thing I thought of | ||
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You still in 1400s in hon? | ||
Sm3agol
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On November 29 2011 13:36 FinestHour wrote: Just play like yoyoma and no one will care about your facial contusions. You still in 1400s in hon? I never was 1400s. 1550 for life. | ||
conTAgi0n
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Facial twitches like what you're describing in my experience are caused by unnecessary tension, as you said. However the tension is probably not isolated to your mouth or face. Besides fixing silly facial expressions, identifying when and where you tense up is also likely to improve your actual playing. As for solutions, the fix is probably reworking some part of your technique and/or just focusing on keeping yourself from tensing up for at least part of the practice session. What I don’t recommend is simply concentrating on not twitching while you play, which will likely make you tense up more, instead focus on avoiding the tension that causes the twitching in the first place, if that makes sense. A disclaimer: tackling underlying technical issues before a performance is not a good idea. Focusing on reducing nerves and tension and on staying loose and relaxed is fine, but if you decide the problem is partly caused by your bow arm or whatever don’t try to fix that until after the performance. I also think you need to come to terms with the fact that this is probably not a problem you’re going to solve completely by the day of the performance, but rather something you will sort out over the long term. Furthermore since tension increases with stress and nerves the problem is likely to be worse during the performance than during a normal practice session. Honestly I wouldn’t freak out too much though: 1) it's probably not nearly as big a deal as you think it is, even if it looks a little silly, and 2) regardless of the venue if the audience is going to be as large as 500, it’s unlikely that more than a fraction of them will have a good view of your face anyways. Aside from making sure you have the piece down completely, I would recommend you continue focusing on not letting yourself tense up during practice. Two weeks of that and you should see some progress. It would be particularly helpful for you to perform for friends and family or whatever as much as you can before the big day. Best of luck with your performance. Out of curiosity, what piece are you playing? | ||
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Sm3agol
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On November 29 2011 14:30 conTAgi0n wrote: Without seeing or hearing you play it's impossible to get a full sense of what the issue is, so take this all with a grain of salt and consult with your private lessons teacher if you have one. Facial twitches like what you're describing in my experience are caused by unnecessary tension, as you said. However the tension is probably not isolated to your mouth or face. Besides fixing silly facial expressions, identifying when and where you tense up is also likely to improve your actual playing. As for solutions, the fix is probably reworking some part of your technique and/or just focusing on keeping yourself from tensing up for at least part of the practice session. What I don’t recommend is simply concentrating on not twitching while you play, which will likely make you tense up more, instead focus on avoiding the tension that causes the twitching in the first place, if that makes sense. A disclaimer: tackling underlying technical issues before a performance is not a good idea. Focusing on reducing nerves and tension and on staying loose and relaxed is fine, but if you decide the problem is partly caused by your bow arm or whatever don’t try to fix that until after the performance. I also think you need to come to terms with the fact that this is probably not a problem you’re going to solve completely by the day of the performance, but rather something you will sort out over the long term. Furthermore since tension increases with stress and nerves the problem is likely to be worse during the performance than during a normal practice session. Honestly I wouldn’t freak out too much though: 1) it's probably not nearly as big a deal as you think it is, even if it looks a little silly, and 2) regardless of the venue if the audience is going to be as large as 500, it’s unlikely that more than a fraction of them will have a good view of your face anyways. Aside from making sure you have the piece down completely, I would recommend you continue focusing on not letting yourself tense up during practice. Two weeks of that and you should see some progress. It would be particularly helpful for you to perform for friends and family or whatever as much as you can before the big day. Best of luck with your performance. Out of curiosity, what piece are you playing? The piece I'm playing in two weeks is not difficult at all, it's just an opener for a Christmas program at a church, it's "The First Noel", and is a trio with a piano and violin. A couple weeks after that, however, I'm playing the Boccherini cello sonata duet in C for a recital, although not in front of 500 people, lol. I'm a bit more worried about that tbh, as although obviously I've practiced that a lot more, there are a lot of weird shifts and thumb position in there, and that is what really makes me tense up. What you are saying is undoubtably correct, I know when i just focus on being incredibly relaxed and peaceful, I have zero problems with it, and don't have to focus on it specifically. I know I also play much better, hit my shifts/etc when playing relaxed. But everyone knows that playing relaxed(or at least appearing to) is one of the harder musical "techniques" to master, especially in front of people. I've played piano in front of people many times, so crowds/audiences aren't too intimidating to me, but this will be my first time playing cello in front of that many people, so I'm probably over-analyzing. But I'll probably bury my face in my cello/music, and let the violinist/pianist carry the emotion part. :-p On November 29 2011 16:34 Sporadic44 wrote: If in all your years of playing Cello, you have never noticed, or no one has ever mentioned, that you twitch while playing your instrument, I doubt a single person will even notice when you're on stage. It sounds like you're nervous about the performance, and are hyperfocusing on something rather insignificant. I've only been playing for a year and a half, and not "professionally" in a any sense of the word, I just randomly decided to get one and start taking lessons a year and a half ago, and enjoy it so much i haven't quit yet, and probably never will. I've put too much money into it to just quit now, and it's still too fun. And it's not a twitch, I'm basically making a really tensed up duckface. -_- | ||
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